[The Sultan of Swank]

The Trouble With Islam

ahh, I found it hilarious. Then again, I generally find things in British accents to be funny.

[ONO]

The main problem I have with Islam is basically its relation with Christianity and future Prophets. One of the foundations of Christianity is that Jesus is the ONLY want to the Kingdom of God, and it is evident throughout the New Testament that he is the Messiah, dying for our sins and all that. It is also told that he is the last Prophet that will come, and it is our last chance of salvation. I don't know if this arguement holds much water, but if you look at how Christianity was spred throughout the world, and how popular Judism was at that time (just after Jesus' death) you can come to a number of surprising conclusions.

When Paul was on his missionary journeys and throughout the Book of Acts the Holy Spirit told him not to enter Asia, but to head to Rome. I'm not being arrogant, I'm a Christian. I don't believe in Islam or Judism, so obviously I will hold this view, so don't jump on my back for being igorant. I believe Islam was created mainly because the Asians believed they had to create their own religion, as the Roman Empire had started, Judism was already popular and Asia was without anything. They had been denied the Christian message through the Holy Spirit.

Not only that, when God told people like John the Baptist and other prophets that the son of God would be the last Prophet to appear before the world, I doubt he would go back on that promise. Muslims believe it is a sin to believe anyone is the son of God, so that rules Mohammed out of the equation. The Bible says there would be no Prophets after Jesus; again ruling Mohammed out of the question.

Interesting theory to say the least.

This post has been edited by Lost Soul: 12 June 2007 - 06:05 PM

[Benji von Doom]

I hope you're sorry Cloudy, you've started a religious debate that I'll be closing no doubt within the week :thumbsdown:

[TSSTB]

Cloudy?

[Benji von Doom]

Oh all you fuckers with your name changes. I'm starting a suicide bombing on your faces :angry:

[BlaTGCk Blood]

Lost Soul, on 12th Jun 2007, 1:01 pm, said:

The main problem I have with Islam is basically its relation with Christianity and future Prophets. One of the foundations of Christianity is that Jesus is the ONLY want to the Kingdom of God, and it is evident throughout the New Testament that he is the Messiah, dying for our sins and all that. It is also told that he is the last Prophet that will come, and it is our last chance of salvation. I don't know if this arguement holds much water, but if you look at how Christianity was spred throughout the world, and how popular Judism was at that time (just after Jesus' death) you can come to a number of surprising conclusions.

When Paul was on his missionary journeys and throughout the Book of Acts the Holy Spirit told him not to enter Asia, but to head to Rome. I'm not being arrogant, I'm a Christian. I don't believe in Islam or Judism, so obviously I will hold this view, so don't jump on my back for being igorant. I believe Islam was created mainly because the Asians believed they had to create their own religion, as the Roman Empire had started, Judism was already popular and Asia was without anything. They had been denied the Christian message through the Holy Spirit.

Not only that, when God told people like John the Baptist and other prophets that the son of God would be the last Prophet to appear before the world, I doubt he would go back on that promise. Muslims believe it is a sin to believe anyone is the son of God, so that rules Mohammed out of the equation. The Bible says there would be no Prophets after Jesus; again ruling Mohammed out of the question.

Interesting theory to say the least.

Or yannow the bible is wrong?

[Assy]

Lost Soul, on 12th Jun 2007, 2:01 pm, said:

The main problem I have with Islam is basically its relation with Christianity and future Prophets. One of the foundations of Christianity is that Jesus is the ONLY want to the Kingdom of God, and it is evident throughout the New Testament that he is the Messiah, dying for our sins and all that. It is also told that he is the last Prophet that will come, and it is our last chance of salvation. I don't know if this arguement holds much water, but if you look at how Christianity was spred throughout the world, and how popular Judism was at that time (just after Jesus' death) you can come to a number of surprising conclusions.

When Paul was on his missionary journeys and throughout the Book of Acts the Holy Spirit told him not to enter Asia, but to head to Rome. I'm not being arrogant, I'm a Christian. I don't believe in Islam or Judism, so obviously I will hold this view, so don't jump on my back for being igorant. I believe Islam was created mainly because the Asians believed they had to create their own religion, as the Roman Empire had started, Judism was already popular and Asia was without anything. They had been denied the Christian message through the Holy Spirit.

Not only that, when God told people like John the Baptist and other prophets that the son of God would be the last Prophet to appear before the world, I doubt he would go back on that promise. Muslims believe it is a sin to believe anyone is the son of God, so that rules Mohammed out of the equation. The Bible says there would be no Prophets after Jesus; again ruling Mohammed out of the question.

Interesting theory to say the least.

THERE IS NO GOD!

[Johnny Summers]

Yes there is.

I just prefer the name Summers.

[darkrayne]

Correct me if I am wrong... but isn't Christianity a relatively new religion?
Yes I am a Christian... Roman Catholic to be precise... and our religion is only a few thousand years old.
Where as Islam and things of that sort being older...

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I believe Islam was created mainly because the Asians believed they had to create their own religion, as the Roman Empire had started, Judism was already popular and Asia was without anything.

Buddism, Shinto, Confucionism?? Thousands of years older....

This post has been edited by darkrayne: 12 June 2007 - 06:51 PM

[ONO]

Islam was created after Christianity..

And sure, there are thousands upon thousands of religions, each with their own unique story, but its up for debate.

This post has been edited by Lost Soul: 12 June 2007 - 06:52 PM

[Devil In Jouzy City]

By around 600 years.

This post has been edited by Devil In Jouzy City: 12 June 2007 - 06:54 PM

[darkrayne]

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Asia was without anything

I guess that I am really concerned about his comment that I have highlighted above... that just shows a bit of major ignorance..

[ONO]

darkrayne, on 12th Jun 2007, 7:56 pm, said:

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Asia was without anything

I guess that I am really concerned about his comment that I have highlighted above... that just shows a bit of major ignorance..

I believe I said something about ignorance multiple times throughout my post. :thumbsdown:

And it isn't even ignorance you idiot. Europe had Christianity, Judism was there as well. Asia had fake prophets and multiple Gods, which any Christian would know as its discussed in the Book of Acts and is why the Holy Spirit directed Paul away from Asia. (Y)

This post has been edited by Lost Soul: 12 June 2007 - 06:59 PM

[--Matt--]

Summers won the thread.

In other news, Islam was started because they believed the prophet was coming, Christians believe that was Jesus, Muslims believe it was Mohammed (though I think they believe a different prophet will arrive at the end of time, whereas Christians believe Jesus will return) and Jews believe the prophet has come yet. I think, anyway.

As for the order in which religions came it goes something like this (major religions only): Hindu (oldest), Judaism, Buddhism (not 100% sure where this one goes), Christianity, Islam, Sikhism(youngest). There's one I'm missing, but I can't think what it is, but it slides in before Christianity.

I didn't realise until today the amount of religions (not talking Christian denominations) that have very similar roots, makes you wonder, I guess. But then you could put the differences down to miscommunication as the original story was passed along, if you - like me - wanted to believe they're all wrong and science is right.

I just think all religions are stupid, they cause more problems than they solve. I know it can change people into good people, but you can have a life-changing experience without needing to pray to some spirit that somehow manages to exist outside the boundaries of time and is all powerful, all seeing/knowing and all loving.

[ONO]

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I just think all religions are stupid, they cause more problems than they solve. I know it can change people into good people, but you can have a life-changing experience without needing to pray to some spirit that somehow manages to exist outside the boundaries of time and is all powerful, all seeing/knowing and all loving.

The actual nature of religion isn't intended to cause problems. Bigots and the like do that.