[TSSTB]

Carlos Santana'd be better.

[Gabriel]

The Bleeding Heart Steeb, on 18th Jun 2007, 9:56 am, said:

Carlos Santana'd be better.

Carlos Santana doesn't sell for anybody. TITO Santana, on the other hand... man that guy is good... you're like "Chico's in control, McMahon...and it's not looking good for Regal." --- "Looks like the Englishman just turned things around Jess...Regal with a Bodyslam..." --- "You shut your mouth McMahon...I'll call the action! Regal sends Santana into the ropes...and CHICO!!! FLYING JALAPENO MCMAHON! Chico Santana just picked up a huge win McMahon!" --- "That's correct Jess..."

[TSSTB]

Carlos only no sells because he's like The Undertaker.

In that they're both male and over forty. >_>

[thisgamewelose]

What is everyones problem with, The Miz? Sure, the guy is an annoying tool; you just want to grab his spiked hair with your left hand and pound him in the face with your right, but other than that....He's proven to be a decent worker in the ring. If they give him a new gimmick, or just stop giving him annoying roles, he'll be a good addition to ECW.

For a small roster, ECW has a lot of good wokers, they're in good shape; Ecw started out slow, but they're really building up the brand to be good, weekly consistent, enjoyable show.

Smackdown got the least out of this! Raw is the A show, the most watched, the flagship - The most profited. With the USA network cracking down on WWE, it makes sense that they would make a sudden change to generate a larger audience for raw.

Smackdown lost a lot of wrestling, but it gives them a chance to build new stars, push people who weren't going to recieve a push, and call up some young development guys.

My only compliant: Raw seems overpacked with star power, and when all the injuries have been healed, some of them will get lost in the shuffle; with Triple H, Shawn Michaels, John Cena, Mr. Kennedy, Booker T, Bobby Lashley; I fear that Umaga will just be forgotten about.

This post has been edited by thisgamewelose: 19 June 2007 - 12:47 AM

[Zero]

Why should Miz stop being annoying? It works for him, you just want to punch the guy in the face. Just because someone is annoying, it doesn't mean they're getting X-Pac heat. Being annoying is how most managers got over in the 80s.

[Anothername]

I don't actually think he's annoying. Well, his "Hoo-Rah!" is, but that's all.

It's more about resentment and not being able to take him seriously due to all the reality TV stuff he's done.

[Gabriel]

Anothername, on 18th Jun 2007, 6:03 pm, said:

I don't actually think he's annoying. Well, his "Hoo-Rah!" is, but that's all.

It's more about resentment and not being able to take him seriously due to all the reality TV stuff he's done.

For me, it's just that he bugs me. It has nothing to do with him being on reality tv. His gimmick is great, but I legitimately want to see someone beat the shit out of him. That's good heat, but he doesn't deserve much of a push. He's a capable worker, but only just. The Miz should lead the new crop of JOB Squad guys, what with Scotty Too Hotty gone now. There's nothing wrong with being a perennial jobber, when that is what you're good at.

Miz is good at being a jobber. Snitsky beating the shit out of him was enjoyable to me. Doesn't mean I want to see him get a push though.

[rhysieisace]

Gabriel Byrne, on 17th Jun 2007, 7:28 pm, said:

AD, the Majors Brothers were put on ECW at the time when Dusty Rhodes was really pushing for an ECW Tag division. That went to hell.

Timmayy... they used to be Brett Matthews and Brian Myers, from Chaotic Wrestling.

Delirium... I never said he deserved an easy ride. What I said was, he was brought in, told that ECW would be treated like an equal brand, and technically, got a little screwed over. ECW is not treated as an equal brand, and he has never in WWE been used to his potential by the writing staff, who is more concerned with him putting over guys who will never reach the places Sandman has been, simply because he doesn't fit into the WWE mould. Sandman should easily be a top face on whatever brand he's on. He doesn't need titles, but he should be treated respectably. He's the fucking Sandman, not Steve Armstrong, for fucks sake.

do you know the sandman? how do you know what he was told when he signed for the company?

[--Matt--]

Because he and some others have publically stated what they were told.

[rhysieisace]

- Matt -, on 19th Jun 2007, 4:37 pm, said:

Because he and some others have publically stated what they were told.

well if they don't like it they can quit can't they? i think having 3 brands is too much anyway, they need to do an angle at summerslam or something where ecw gets killed off, then release some dead wood like sandman, viscera, maybe even people like eugene and val venis who are stale, then just redo raw and smackdowns rosters

[Gabriel]

rhysieisace, on 19th Jun 2007, 8:42 am, said:

- Matt -, on 19th Jun 2007, 4:37 pm, said:

Because he and some others have publically stated what they were told.

well if they don't like it they can quit can't they? i think having 3 brands is too much anyway, they need to do an angle at summerslam or something where ecw gets killed off, then release some dead wood like sandman, viscera, maybe even people like eugene and val venis who are stale, then just redo raw and smackdowns rosters

You can't just up and quit during the middle of your contract. There are legal ramifications for doing something like that.

I highly expect that a couple of ECW originals, namely The Sandman and Balls Mahoney, will not renew their contracts when the time comes. You can argue that Sandman serves his purpose doing what he's doing, but you cannot tell me that Balls Mahoney, who has had some great matches in WWE and gotten over with the crowd like wildfire, deserves to be the jobber he's been portrayed as.