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Josh Marenghi

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  1. It really was. It deserves all the love.
  2. The other thing about Hacksaw Ridge is that so people were so willing to see a Mel Gibson film again. I can’t fuck with him, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, or their ilk.
  3. I addressed that. Clearly not to your personal satisfaction, but I’ve said my piece. Moving on. As for La La Land, it was essentially the implication of a white man teaching a black man jazz.
  4. I’ll take back cool fun Joker movie. Insert your own description. But you can easily see what I’m describing it as, that clearly differs from your own description, as it very much seems yours doesn’t include “highly problematic.” And I’m not writing off other reviews. It’s objective fact that a shit ton of reviewers are super sold on it and more will line up behind them. Of course they have, of course they are, of course they will. I’m just troubled that they don’t see the problem here and/or just don’t agree that it’s a problem. And, yes, that was my response to the applause. Industry folks often heap praise upon films that distort narratives or are in some way noticeably problematic. See Hacksaw Ridge, La La Land, or Green Book. I am genuinely not surprised that Joker’s getting the same response. And yeah, of course I see the dissenting reviews as “good” in some sense. They’re addressing inherent problems that can’t help but be there when the protagonist/point of view is a terrorist AND that same character is already oddly fetishized as being super cool by a lot of fans. The filmmakers aren’t releasing this into a vacuum. Cultural context matters. I don’t think it will inspire violence, but it does severely dampen any prevailing notion that incel and other sorts of ideology are dangerous. So yeah. I’m happy to see that addressed. And I’m especially motivated to share that here when the general thought being expressed here is that the movie looks like it’s going to be cool, intriguing, or various other things in that range of descriptors. I believe strongly that it’s something that should be addressed and when I see it largely not being noticed, I’m gonna go on about it.
  5. It does indeed have meaning in my previous point. And yes, I do share those reviews because they share a perspective similar to mine. One I had before them. Pointing out that there are some people professionally paid to go see it who then did and after made those points. And for all the discussion of intent (unreliable narrator, etc.), we’re forgetting that - as in anything - intent does not equal impact. And impact is all that counts. And when we’re talking about an impact with moral implications, that matters a great deal. So I know I’m building (if I haven’t already built) a reputation as Mr. No Fun Sees Politics in Everything and Makes Mountains Out of Molehills, but so be it. It’s an important conversation and this is the kind of thing I’ll refer to now and in the future. I get it. You don’t agree. Cool fun Joker movie is cool fun Joker movie and that’s good enough for lots of people. But I’m still disturbed by its implications and impact.
  6. Again, see previous comments for why it isn’t strictly necessary in 100% of cases to see the thing first.
  7. The idea of refusing to take sides being a smart and brave thing to do - rather than just easy and cowardly - baffles me. Here’s another review from Time.
  8. I mean. I can’t say I’m at all surprised.
  9. Amazing review. “That perspective allows Phillips to feign an apolitical stance and speak to the people in our world who are predisposed to think of Arthur as a role model: lonely, creatively impotent white men who are drawn to hateful ideologies because of the angry communities that foment around them.”
  10. Well, Christ. Ah, good to see she specifically told people not to blame Zoe, even though plenty of misogynistic gamers won’t listen. It sucks to be either of them right now.
  11. I’m not saying watching The Joker will drive people to violence (the way Trump and others claim video games will.) That’s not the relationship I’m pointing out. Instead, it’s that there’s a cultural fascination in (mostly white male) America (the Western world?) with treating deranged, violent white men as fascinating tragic figures, rather than unspeakable monsters. And this is part of that.
  12. I just wish it were a character driven film about anyone else - ideally a hero. We’re just in a time when incel terrorism is on the rise and I feel like this is their story, for them.
  13. It’s not a separate argument, but it is a subset of a much larger, important discussion. God knows we need more Black Panther, Wonder Woman, Miles Morales, Valkyrie, Falcon, etc. and less Joker, Venom, Batman, Tony Stark, etc. And that’s just limiting things to superhero stuff.
  14. One does not need to see it to know that A) it’s from Joker’s perspective and B) it’s about the Joker doing (non-Cesar Romero) Joker things. And not everything need be about good guys necessarily, but we’re culturally overstocked on anti-heroes and flat-our bad guy protagonists - far more often than not, white male bad guys. See Breaking Bad, Dexter, Mad Men, any number of serial killer documentaries, etc. And on top of that, this is a character who is already held up by many fans as being so very cool. It just adds to the problem. I’m not saying people are necessarily bad people for finding the film interesting, but I think there’s a fair amount of cultural blindness and ignorance to privilege on the part of the filmmakers. Besides, this is the third big screen Joker in - what? Ten years?
  15. He’s not real, yet tons of people seemingly idolize the guy. “He wants to watch the world burn, he’s so cool!” He’s supposed to be a villain, someone that sickens you. And yet he’s held up more as an anti-hero by a ton of fans. And now there’s this movie where he’s ostensibly the protagonist. A humanizing portrait. An attempt to sympathize with where he’s coming from. He’s a guy who doesn’t get what he wants and turns to violence. He’s a pastiche of every incel white terrorist or serial killer we ever see on the news. And it’s weird enough that societal reaction to those guys is “how tragic, what could have gone wrong” instead of “what a fucking monster” - and now this is the same approach with a fictional character. When the Joker’s in a movie where Batman or another hero is trying to stop him and we try to understand the fucked up ideology that led him to this so we can stamp that out, that’s one thing. But this is told from Joker’s perspective. It’s sympathizing for its own sake, rather than understanding it in order to stop it. Imagine a Freddy Krueger movie told from his perspective. “What’s it to be him?” Who cares? He murders kids, fucking stop him.
  16. I just don’t get the fetishization of The Joker our there. Or this need to “humanize” a terrorist.
  17. Is Arkham Knight worthwhile? I haven’t played any of that series.
  18. Gaaahhh! I need them to say when it’s coming to PS4!
  19. Not yet, but we’ll be watching soon. I’m excited!
  20. Also, I keep forgetting to share this here. These good boys. Also, yes, my horse is named CP Munk.
  21. I always skin, since it gives you room to carry a lot more in your horse.
  22. That’s definitely the first time I’ve heard someone call it boring.
  23. Girlfriend and I have been doing a slow rewatch of the first three seasons, timed to end just before the final season starts at the end of September. We just finished season one and good grief every episode is still amazing after 3-4 viewings. She’s also introduced me to The Good Place Podcast (hosted by Mark Evan Jackson a.k.a. Shawn.) We listen together as we do a puzzle and it’s a super insightful listen.
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