Premier League 2019/20

[DavidMarrio]

You could argue well the likes of Owen, Fowler, Sheringham, Les Ferdinand and Defoe could be on there for the amount of goals they've scored before some of the others

[Colly]

Just had a quick look at the actual all time top scorers list and Cole is still at 3, so I'm still confused as to 10th, but also Frank Lampard is 5th with only 3 goals less than Aguero. Was he discussed at all? I should watch this really.

[Liam]

2 minutes ago, Colly said:

Just had a quick look at the actual all time top scorers list and Cole is still at 3, so I'm still confused as to 10th, but also Frank Lampard is 5th with only 3 goals less than Aguero. Was he discussed at all? I should watch this really.

Frank Lampard had over 600 PL appearances.

Sergio Aguero hasn't yet hit 300.

I'm going to assume they were primarily looking at guys who had a high strike rate more than just goals scored.

[Benjamin]

Just a personal thing but Henry should be number two, quite possibly the most talented striker I’ve seen. 
 

Ronaldo had that 30+ goal season at the end of the naughts, right? Presume that’s why he was included. Question is why isn’t Van Persie there? 

[Malenko]

Why didn't they just call it strikers? If they did, they could always say they took other factors into account. Why call it top goalscorers if that's something you can actually measure? One can argue that the top goal scorers are the ones who... score... the most... goals. If that's the case how can Andy Cole be so low?

I do understand they may consider number of goals scored in a single season for those with fewer EPL seasons but still...

9 minutes ago, Liam said:

Frank Lampard had over 600 PL appearances.

Sergio Aguero hasn't yet hit 300.

I'm going to assume they were primarily looking at guys who had a high strike rate more than just goals scored.

What about Andy Cole being lower than Drogba in the list, then? Better total and better average and yet is 10th while Drogba is 6th?

[Liam]

5 minutes ago, Malenko said:

What about Andy Cole being lower than Drogba in the list, then? Better total and better average and yet is 10th while Drogba is 6th?

Oh yeah, I'm not saying that there won't be some weird placements and they won't stick rigidly to it, but I'll assume they're up around similar-ish strike rates by that point? From that point, you can start to make an argument around personal preferences, who played for who, the success of the team around them, etc etc.

[Adam]

The article they put up where we could submit our own lists did focus on goal ratio a fair bit too.

I had Cole higher, they said they weren't even going to have him in the debate but Ian Wright forfeited his own place because he felt Cole deserved to be in there.

I had Shearer, Henry and Aguero top three. I wouldn't have even had Suarez on the list, above Fernando Torres? Or a clutch of others.

[TCO]

Here's the goals per game ration ranked or everyone who scored more than 100 goals. Gives a good balance of productivity and longevity. RVN, Ronaldo and Suarez all scored less than 100 so I've added them to the list too. Looking at it, I don't think Ronaldo should be in the top 10 personally.

Rank	Player	Nationality	Goals	Games	Ratio
1	Sergio Agüero	Argentina	180	261	0.69
2	Thierry Henry	France	175	258	0.68
3	Harry Kane	England	136	201	0.68
4	Ruud Van Nistelrooy	Netherlands	95	150	0.63
5	Luis Suarez	Uruguay	69	110	0.63
6	Alan Shearer	England	260	441	0.59
7	Ian Wright	England	113	213	0.53
8	Robin van Persie	Netherlands	144	280	0.51
9	Michael Owen	England	150	326	0.46
10	Andy Cole	England	187	414	0.45
11	Romelu Lukaku	Belgium	113	252	0.45
12	Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink	Netherlands	127	288	0.44
13	Robbie Fowler	England	163	379	0.43
14	Cristiano Ronaldo	Portugal	84	196	0.43
15	Wayne Rooney	England	208	494	0.42
16	Les Ferdinand	England	149	351	0.42
17	Didier Drogba	Ivory Coast	104	254	0.41
18	Darren Bent	England	106	276	0.38
19	Matt Le Tissier	England	100	270	0.37
20	Robbie Keane	Republic of Ireland	126	349	0.36
21	Dion Dublin	England	111	312	0.36
22	Teddy Sheringham	England	146	418	0.35
23	Nicolas Anelka	France	125	364	0.34
24	Jermain Defoe	England	162	496	0.33
25	Dwight Yorke	Trinidad and Tobago	123	375	0.33
26	Frank Lampard	England	177	609	0.29
27	Steven Gerrard	England	120	504	0.24
28	Peter Crouch	England	108	468	0.23
29	Emile Heskey	England	110	516	0.21
30	Paul Scholes	England	107	499	0.21
31	Ryan Giggs	Wales	109	632	0.17

 

[stokeriño]

RVP looks to be an especially unwarranted exclusion.

[Gazz]

I mean, in our current grassroots manager's group on Whatsapp, they're doing an all time XI and David Beckham is beating Cristiano Ronaldo and Figo for a spot, so the wisdom of crowds when it comes to football is a myth.

[TCO]

While I was looking into this too, I looked at Torres. His ratio was 0.64 at Liverpool (would have been 4th on this list) and dropped to 0.18 at Chelsea lol. 0.40 overall. Sligthly better than Darren Bent but worse than Drogba and Sandra Redknapp .

He was only 26 when he signed for Chelsea as well. Madness.

[DavidMarrio]

2 hours ago, TCO said:

While I was looking into this too, I looked at Torres. His ratio was 0.64 at Liverpool (would have been 4th on this list) and dropped to 0.18 at Chelsea lol. 0.40 overall. Sligthly better than Darren Bent but worse than Drogba and Sandra Redknapp .

He was only 26 when he signed for Chelsea as well. Madness.

His decline cause of injuries and confidence still makes me sad. Guy was one of the best finishers I've seen play for us

[The Lusophone]

8 hours ago, Gazz said:

David Beckham is beating Cristiano Ronaldo and Figo for a spot

As he should.

[Lineker]

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Images surfaced online on Sunday of a damaged white Range Rover as well as a picture that appeared to show the Aston Villa captain in slippers and a bright blue hoodie.

Less than 24 hours before the incident, the midfielder launched a video appeal for people to stay at home during the government-enforced lockdown. In the video, he said: “To help save lives you must stay at home. Only leave your house to buy food, buy medicine or to exercise and always remember to stay at least two metres apart. This is urgent, protect the NHS, stay home, save lives.”

In a statement about the incident, the West Midlands force said: “We were called to Waterside, Dickens Heath, just before 10am to reports that a Range Rover had crashed into two parked cars in the street. The driver left his details with a member of the public at the scene before leaving on foot, and will be spoken to by police in due course. Minor damage was caused to the parked vehicles.

“Officers are investigating the circumstances and anyone with information has been asked to get in touch, via Live Chat at west-midlands.police.uk quoting log 643 of 29 March.”

Aston Villa were unavailable for comment on Sunday.

[Cymbols]

Oh ffs

[Adam]

BBC Sport has a quiz up of current Premier League players by their club history.

I got 18 of them in less than three and a half minutes but the other two completely stumped me. The ones who currently play for Arsenal and Palace.

[TCO]

Tripped up on the last 2. Would have never gotten the last one so I'd say 19 is my best possible score!

[Gazz]

I'm always shit at these because FM creates false memories of players playing for clubs they've never played for.

[DavidMarrio]

17. 

Struggled on the final two and the one who was at us for a bit

[Jimmy]

19. 

Just couldn't remember the name of the current Liverpool player.