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That was alright. It was decent to solid, but the de-aging of the Doctor was laughable, totally laughable.

The last five+ minutes saved it, with the Boe thingy, with Martha leaving and the good (if a little silly) set-up for the chistmas special.

So, in review, Last 5-10 mins good, rest OK, with some laughable parts.

Oh, I hate the fact John Simm died, but the scene with him dying in the Doctor's arms was well good.

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I'm guessing it is Lucy, who then uses the ring to become the Master. It's Doctor Who, logic is fucked up.

Agreed that the whole "Doctor" thing was stupid though, but otherwise I thought the rest of the show was just as good as the rest. Oh, and Jack being the Face of Boe is brilliant too.

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Aye, the whole Face of Boe thing did make me spit out my beer in a good way.

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I just assumed the person picking it up was Lucy, not a female Master, I dislike the idea of Time Lords changing gender when they regenerate.

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I hated the whole "power of thought" thing, even when they explained that it tied in with Archangel and everything...it was just silly, even by Doctor Who standards. It was cringeworthy. They tried to build up The Doctor to be some kind of Messiah, which I suppose makes sense given the circumstances, but it just seemed uncharacteristic and tacky, and a bit of a cop-out...just seemed like they couldn't find a sensible way to return him to his normal age.

The female hand picking up the ring was interesting, but I don't think it will be a "new Master" per sé. I liked the Doctor crying over the death of The Master...I really like how they're driving home the loneliness of the Doctor's life, to the extent that even losing someone like The Master would leave him distraught, because it's just about all he's got left. The funeral pyre image, and the Doctor crying over the Master's body, were both wonderful images, but I like the idea of the Master being held captive inside the TARDIS, I would've liked that as an eventual outcome, and it wouldn't be too tricky to bring him back for a future story. If we DO have a new Master, I don't want to see him/her again for a long, long time. The last couple of episodes were pretty epic, and bringing the Master back as just another recurring villain would lessen that severely.

The Face Of Boe thing was a cute twist, as was the Toclofane being humans...really sums up the whole idea of humanity being the most durable race, yet at the same time the most vicious and monstrous; something that's been brought up a few times this series. Not sure if it was intentional or not, but there seemed to be a couple or parallels between humanity/Toclofane and the creation of the Daleks, which was nice. As an aside, the Toclofane's human face looked a bit like Davros. I almost marked out.

The set-up for the Christmas episode was silly, but it would have to be, really. For a brief moment I thought the Titanic's hull was a Dalek Emperor.

I thought we were going to get another sickly Doctor/companion romance moment when Martha was leaving, I'm so glad we didn't. Martha was a decent assistant, and I'm sure we'll see her again, but I think she's outlived her usefulness in the companion role. I'd like to see the Doctor fly solo for a little while, really build on the loneliness idea, before eventually introducing a companion, but I can see a new one popping up at Christmas, or the start of the next series. Oh well.

It was a good finale, all in all, though, but the pacing was a little odd. It was like BIG MOMENT nothing nothing nothing nothing BIG MOMENT plot twist nothing nothing nothing nothing BIG MOMENT nothing nothing nothing, silly plot twist, nothing nothing nothing, tender moment, silliness.

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I thought it was an acceptable finale, with a couple of great moments of imagery (The Master's death was awesomely directed/acted I thought) and the funeral pyre was eerie and really drove home The Doctor's "loss".

I don't think the woman was Lucy, I think the hand looked too old to be honest. I wouldn't be surprised if The Rani is the villain for the next series (or the series after).

Oh, is it me or did they lift the ring thing straight from an old sci-fi show/film. Was it Flash Gordon where someone picks up a ring at the end as a twist?

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I thought it was an acceptable finale, with a couple of great moments of imagery (The Master's death was awesomely directed/acted I thought) and the funeral pyre was eerie and really drove home The Doctor's "loss".

I don't think the woman was Lucy, I think the hand looked too old to be honest. I wouldn't be surprised if The Rani is the villain for the next series (or the series after).

Oh, is it me or did they lift the ring thing straight from an old sci-fi show/film. Was it Flash Gordon where someone picks up a ring at the end as a twist?

Thing is, if it IS The Rani, then they've just gone completely against the idea that Timelords have the psychic connection to the other Timelords, The Doctor would know she exists.

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I like the Rani idea, but unfortunately The Master and The Rani have been together in the past (I think it was Anthony Ainley who played the Master in the episode) and I'm almost positive that one was trying to kill the other, which makes little sense.

This episode, well, I actually enjoyed it. I didn't see the ending as a cop-out, although I could see that there was very few ways they could actually go. Although maybe messing around with the timeline would have worked much better because then they didn't need to use that "power of thought" thing. Then again, that ties in well with The Masters "hypontic power" over the human race, so if they all think of one word then it breaks it; not so sure on it fixing the doctor but whatever.

I want to see more of The Face Of Boe's life now, and Jack didn't annoy me at all in the last 2 episodes so (Y). The toclafaine I liked, but I wuld have much preferred The Master change history, find another way to sort out The Doctors visual appearance (Maybe use Jack's immortality thing like he has apparently done in torchwood for things) and then go BACK to the end of the world and see exactly how humans ended up turning out.

The ending was silly, but it's only to set up the Christmas special and will probably be forgotten about. At least I hope it is.

I thought it was an acceptable finale, with a couple of great moments of imagery (The Master's death was awesomely directed/acted I thought) and the funeral pyre was eerie and really drove home The Doctor's "loss".

I don't think the woman was Lucy, I think the hand looked too old to be honest. I wouldn't be surprised if The Rani is the villain for the next series (or the series after).

Oh, is it me or did they lift the ring thing straight from an old sci-fi show/film. Was it Flash Gordon where someone picks up a ring at the end as a twist?

Thing is, if it IS The Rani, then they've just gone completely against the idea that Timelords have the psychic connection to the other Timelords, The Doctor would know she exists.

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ArkAngel was used to block The Doctor's connection to The Master. The Doctor says so in the penultimate episode of the series.

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I really enjoyed the episode, but the main problem I've had with the series is the number of times The Doctor has fallen victim to his enemies and it's been Martha who has had to save the day.

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I thought it was an acceptable finale, with a couple of great moments of imagery (The Master's death was awesomely directed/acted I thought) and the funeral pyre was eerie and really drove home The Doctor's "loss".

I don't think the woman was Lucy, I think the hand looked too old to be honest. I wouldn't be surprised if The Rani is the villain for the next series (or the series after).

Oh, is it me or did they lift the ring thing straight from an old sci-fi show/film. Was it Flash Gordon where someone picks up a ring at the end as a twist?

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Christmas Special looks like it will be set on The Titanic but didn’t Christopher Eccleston’s Doctor say he was on board it

Something like “I was on a unsinkable ship once ended up clinging to an iceberg”

As well as that photo if the 9th Doctor outside The Titanic so could we get a cameo from Christopher Eccleston or even a multiple Doctor story if not they should at least mention that The 10th Doctor is trying to avoid him perhaps with a scene where Tennent ducks/hides and we see a familiar looking guy in a leather jacket pass by (if they didn’t give a frontal face shot it wouldn’t even have to be Eccleston)

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Christmas Special looks like it will be set on The Titanic but didn’t Christopher Eccleston’s Doctor say he was on board it

Something like “I was on a unsinkable ship once ended up clinging to an iceberg”

As well as that photo if the 9th Doctor outside The Titanic so could we get a cameo from Christopher Eccleston or even a multiple Doctor story if not they should at least mention that The 10th Doctor is trying to avoid him perhaps with a scene where Tennent ducks/hides and we see a familiar looking guy in a leather jacket pass by (if they didn’t give a frontal face shot it wouldn’t even have to be Eccleston)

Indeed he did say that, and there was also a picture showing him with a family that were on the Titanic, multi-Doctor story is a MASSIVE possibility and I pray you're right.

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If you want to accept the novels and audio plays as continuity (okay, you don't, but let's dream...) then The Doctor is on the Titantic four times, I believe, including Tennant at Christmas. Although I doubt Colin Baker would be the best one to bring back, as he's basically unrecognisable from his 1985-6 tenure as The Doctor, so old and fat has he gotten in the intervening two decades.

As for the episode itself - I liked it. A couple of interesting things left open, like Martha's possible return at some date and the "who picked up the ring?" debacle, which I really hope isn't The Rani. She was possibly the worst of all Who's villains, recurring or not, and frankly the main practical upshot of the Time War is that she's not knocking about anymore. Terribly written, terrible character, and overacted to the hilt by Kate O'Mara first time around. If RTD is intent on bringing back icons of the classic series one year at a time, frankly we should be on about season 18 with Daniel Radcliffe as The Doctor by the time they go so far as to bring The Rani back, of all people. Ugh. I'm hoping it was Lucy Saxon, and that her shooting The Master was actually all part of some contingency plan they had, because she seemed a bit emotionless and robotic when she popped him in the first place.

Good finale, a little marred by the overuse of CGI for the gnome-Doc and the somewhat silly "the power of faith compels you" resolve, but this is new Who and it's a season finale, and it's hardly the first ridiculous thing they've done in a last episode (Time Goddess Rose Tyler, anyone?) so I can ignore it in favour of a good story. Very much looking forward to another silly Christmas episode, and hopefully we'll get Martha back lickety-split next year, because she ended up being a damn good character and I liked her a lot. Besides, I definitely would. Judging by RTD's habit of casting people multiple times, maybe we'll get Sally Sparrow or that girl out of Hex as the next assistant. Or somebody from Queer as Folk.

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Martha is gonna be back next year, but she's filming a few episodes of Torchwood first, probably around 3.

Kylie Minogue is set to be the celeb star of the Christmas special this year though. How did an Aussie bird get on the Titanic anyway?

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Next years full time companion will be Catherine Tate

Catherine Tate accepts proposal to star in fourth series.

Catherine Tate is set to return to the TARDIS for the complete 13 week run of Series Four of Doctor Who.

Award winning comedian Tate will reprise her role as Donna, the runaway bride from last year's Christmas special, despite turning down the Doctor's invitation to travel with him at the end of that adventure.

When Catherine was asked if she would like to become The Doctor's new companion at the press screening of The Runaway Bride, she replied, "I would love to, but no one has asked!" Well, now they have.

"Catherine was an absolute star in The Runaway Bride and we are delighted that one of Britain's greatest talents has agreed to join us for the fourth series," announced Doctor Who's executive producer and head writer, Russell T Davies. "Viewers can expect more ambitious storylines and a whole host of guest stars in 2008."

Catherine Tate : "I addedam delighted to be returning to Doctor Who. I had a blast last Christmas and look forward to travelling again through time and space with that nice man from Gallifrey."

Freema Agyeman who has played Martha Jones, The Doctor's companion throughout the critically acclaimed third series, will return to the show to join The Doctor and Donna mid series.

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So yeah, I just read that Catherine Tate is scheduled to be in some more episodes. That's me definetly not watching then, she is fucking woeful.

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So yeah, I just read that Catherine Tate is scheduled to be in some more episodes. That's me definetly not watching then, she is fucking woeful.

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Oh fucking Jesus, WHY? She's not even remotely good in any way shape or form, at least if she was annoying and FIT I could let it go.

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So yeah, I just read that Catherine Tate is scheduled to be in some more episodes. That's me definetly not watching then, she is fucking woeful.

Did you read it on the first post of this page?

I read it in the Metro actually :P

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SciFi is airing the second half of series 2 (Rise of the Cybermen to the two-part finale) from 8 AM to 4 PM EST Friday. Love and Monsters sucked. At least I won't be home to sit through it. (I fast forwarded through a good portion of that episode. Horrible drivel.)

SciFi's also not shorting us Statesiders, as Runaway Bride airs at 8 PM to 9:30 PM EST, followed by Smith and Jones from 9:30 PM to 10:30 PM. Set your DVRs, folks :)

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