Mick Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 He's not a lion, he's a hound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 On 7/31/2017 at 20:50, Azazel said: Hide contents I'm officially sold on Euron as one of my new favorite characters now, he's just wonderful. We are losing a lot of characters but we are also going to the end game so its to be expected, but it took all of 3 episodes for Dany to lose all her Westerosi allies she came over with last finale. I like the difference in Cersei torturing the Sand Snakes and getting off on it and Jamie showing mercy to Olenna. What I am concerned about is Jamie showed this mercy and then found out that not only did this woman murder his son, but that means Tyrion really was innocent the entire time but they drove him to murder Tywin and become the Hand to their enemy. I fear that Jamie's is going to go very evil soon. Spoiler Nah, if they actually stick to it, Jaime didn't give two fucks about Joffrey, he only protected him because of Cersei. He probably will never tell Cersei that Olenna did it, to spare her the memory of Joffrey dying painfully and Olenna dying peacefully. Jaime is 100% being positioned to kill Cersei, though, that line by Olenna about helping her become the monster she is and stuff was so damn telling. Also, fuck the whole scene with people comparing what Dany did to what Jon did. Jon did everything while basically having his back against the wall the whole damn time, with no one trusting him, Dany got through life by sheer dumb luck and people having blind faith in her. They literally only support her because she has dragons, which apparently she has because "she believes in herself" or some bullshit and not through believing in fairy tales? Okay then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Speaking of that, I loved this article. Spoilers on the series thus far contained within. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDK Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Joshu Picchu said: Speaking of that, I loved this article. Spoilers on the series thus far contained within. The article is a bit silly but fun, I suppose, but dear God don't go into the comments section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 15 minutes ago, MDK said: The article is a bit silly but fun, I suppose, but dear God don't go into the comments section. Applies to pretty much everything ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDK Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 9 minutes ago, Joshu Picchu said: Applies to pretty much everything ever. On second thought, lets not go to the comments section. 'tis a silly place. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanDMan Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) Given EWB is essentially one giant comments section... >_> Edited August 3, 2017 by SeanDMan 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobfoc Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Spoiler I have to say that whole Three Eyed Raven character and arc is my least favourite part of the story, both in the books and on the show. I've said many times that it's the political conflict and strategic battle of wits that draws me to the series, and the entire "I know everything and I can manipulate time because I got pushed out a window and that gave me magic powers somehow" dynamic isn't compatible with that at all. I know the books made more of it than that, but I still find it to be half-baked Dungeons and Dragons nonsense. If it gives us a flashback of Rhaegar, however, I might momentarily change my mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Bran's powers come from being born with Greensight, same as Jojen Reed was. It has nothing to do with him not learning how to fall from a twenty foot ladder. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punky Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) Speaking of, didn't they sort of hint at Rickon having some sort of "sight" in the show? Like when he was down in the crypts of Winterfell with Shaggydog and he said "Father was down here" and Bran called him a liar? Then they kind of just dropped it. Edited August 3, 2017 by punky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazel Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 8 hours ago, SeanDMan said: Given EWB is essentially one giant comments section... >_> Reveal hidden contents Spoiler Ya, I'm not sure why of all things Bran could say he would choose that, but he also did say he hasn't figure out how to work the power completely yet, so maybe he doesn't know about Littlefinger, Jon, Arya or the the White Walkers yet? I am still waiting for Howland Reed to show to explain some shit to everyone, where the hell is he anyway? Didn't Robb send something to him back in like season 2? My other main question that I have absolutely no idea about... if Bran talking to Hodor in the greendream turned him into Hodor... was someone talking to The Mad King and caused him to go crazy? If so, who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Rickon had similar dreams to Bran in the books, like they both dreamt of Ned in the crypts just after his execution. Bran talked about Sansa's wedding because it was something that was verifiable by Sansa. If he'd said 'Jon's a Targaryen', she has no way of verifying that at the time so would just assume he's talking nonsense. Its the same reasoning why when he got to the Wall, he mentioned to Edd things that had specifically happened to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellraiser Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Azazel said: Hide contents My other main question that I have absolutely no idea about... if Bran talking to Hodor in the greendream turned him into Hodor... was someone talking to The Mad King and caused him to go crazy? If so, who? Spoiler It wasn't Brand simply talking to young Hodor that turned him into Hodor. The way I understood this scene is that Bran managed to warg into young Hodor's mind so that he can control Hodor in the present and thereby making young Hodor witness his own death which effectively broke his mind. I could be wrong though. 1 hour ago, Gazz said: Rickon had similar dreams to Bran in the books, like they both dreamt of Ned in the crypts just after his execution. Bran talked about Sansa's wedding because it was something that was verifiable by Sansa. If he'd said 'Jon's a Targaryen', she has no way of verifying that at the time so would just assume he's talking nonsense. Its the same reasoning why when he got to the Wall, he mentioned to Edd things that had specifically happened to him. I do understand that but for the love of god couldn't he have mentioned something else about her past that isn't related to the night she was raped? That isn't the only thing that happened to her since they last spoke to eachother. Mention that the poison that was used to kill Joffrey was hidden in the pearls of her necklace or that Littlefinger pushed Lysa Arryn through the Moon Door. Also: Spoiler "The Three-Eyed Raven taught me" "I thought you were the Three-Eyed Raven" "I told you it's difficult to explain" NO IT'S FUCKING NOT! Just say that the Three-Eyed Raven died and that you are his successor you imbecile! And why were the people in King's Landing cheering on Euron? He works with/for (depending from whose perspective you are looking at the situation) Cersei. They hate Cersei. There is no reason for them to cheer him on. Edited August 3, 2017 by Hellraiser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mx. Canadian Destroyer Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 I think when you can see everything that's happened in history, you become a bit desensitized to terrible shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Pretty much, Bran is basically the GoT version of Dr. Manhattan from Watchmen, when you can percieve everything that has happened, is happening and will happen, your perceptions of morality etc. change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LL! Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 On 8/2/2017 at 10:05, Benjamin said: Hide contents Jaime is 100% being positioned to kill Cersei, though, that line by Olenna about helping her become the monster she is and stuff was so damn telling. Spoiler This is why I think Arya is going to die. I think Arya is going to hook back up with The Hound on the way to kill Cersei, make an attempt at her life, and die because The Hound is too busy fighting the Cleganebowl. This will leave the door open for Jaime to end up doing the deed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Azazel said: Hide contents Ya, I'm not sure why of all things Bran could say he would choose that, but he also did say he hasn't figure out how to work the power completely yet, so maybe he doesn't know about Littlefinger, Jon, Arya or the the White Walkers yet? I am still waiting for Howland Reed to show to explain some shit to everyone, where the hell is he anyway? Didn't Robb send something to him back in like season 2? My other main question that I have absolutely no idea about... if Bran talking to Hodor in the greendream turned him into Hodor... was someone talking to The Mad King and caused him to go crazy? If so, who? Spoiler Maybe Bran as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobfoc Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Gazz said: Bran's powers come from being born with Greensight, same as Jojen Reed was. It has nothing to do with him not learning how to fall from a twenty foot ladder. And that's something that does nothing for me as a fan, sadly. Prophecy and time travel are two things that I'm not keen on in my silly medieval fiction. Actually, I did like the raven Bran saw in his dreams during the first season. With the show not having a huge budget at the time, it looked like a normal raven with an arts-and-crafts googly eye stuck to its head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Silly medieval fiction with dragons and an army of the undead? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobfoc Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Exactly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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