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I can see why Joaquin is nominated, honestly. The movie itself is.... complicated.

I think I'd probably remove Jonathan Pryce and put Adam Sandler in his place. But if I couldn't do that, then I'd at least take away The Irishman and put Uncut Gems in its place. If you've seen one Scorsese gangster flick, you've seen them all, in my opinion. It wasn't a BAD movie, but it didn't leave me thinking, "Wow, this was an amazing movie". And over in the other big category... I've seen everything up for Best Picture, except for Little Women, and honestly the only movie on the list that I can say didn't leave me too impressed was The Irishman and Once Upon A Time In Hollywood. Good movies, yeah, but nothing too exceptional. Uncut Gems blows away all of those nominated except maybe Marriage Story.

Seriously, that movie left me in shambles. Maybe it was the unexpected ending, maybe it was because I hadn't seen a Sandler movie I actually cared about since... what, Spanglish? Maybe it was how ridiculously good Kevin Garnett and Julia Fox were (both in their first movie roles, ever). The score was just amazing - Daniel Lopatin aka Oneohtrix Point Never did an incredible job. It somehow doesn't fit the movie but also fits the movie perfectly.

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I may be in the minority, but I think Scorsese is overrated. He's a great director,  yes, but he's pretty much nominated for anything he does.

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You will all be shocked to learn that I, the person who failed to do a EWB's Favorite Movie 2017 and responded by going "fuck it, Lady Bird won," was extremely into Little Women.

I'm definitely gonna get Marriage Story in before the Oscars, not sure if I have time for Jojo Rabbit and I figure Ford vs. Ferrari isn't necessary to have an opinion about.

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4 hours ago, GoGo Yubari said:

You will all be shocked to learn that I, the person who failed to do a EWB's Favorite Movie 2017 and responded by going "fuck it, Lady Bird won," was extremely into Little Women.

I'm definitely gonna get Marriage Story in before the Oscars, not sure if I have time for Jojo Rabbit and I figure Ford vs. Ferrari isn't necessary to have an opinion about.

I literally agree with everything you just said, as Marriage Story is really good, Little Women was fucking incredible, I'm going to try to make time for Jojo Rabbit (thinking about watching it later today, actually) and couldn't give less of a fuck about Ford vs Ferrari. 

I still have yet to watch a few others, though, most notably the Lighthouse, Pain & Glory and Waves. 

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On 07/02/2020 at 06:01, tristy said:

Uncut Gems blows away all of those nominated except maybe Marriage Story.

Seriously, that movie left me in shambles. Maybe it was the unexpected ending, maybe it was because I hadn't seen a Sandler movie I actually cared about since... what, Spanglish? Maybe it was how ridiculously good Kevin Garnett and Julia Fox were (both in their first movie roles, ever). The score was just amazing - Daniel Lopatin aka Oneohtrix Point Never did an incredible job. It somehow doesn't fit the movie but also fits the movie perfectly.

Watched it tonight, I thought it was brilliant. Agreed on everything (especially Garnett), although it took me a long time to get into the score. As you say it sort of doesn't fit the film and especially early on it felt really jarring.

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Independent Spirit awards (H)

Best Feature: The Farewell
Best Director: The Safdie Brothers
Best Actor: Adam Sandler
Best Supporting Actor: Willem Dafoe
Best Supporting Actress: Zhao Shuzhen
Best Screenplay: Marriage Story
Best First Feature: Booksmart
Best International Film: Parasite

Love all of those wins.

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Figured Sandler would get that one but Zhao Shuzhen getting Best Supporting Actress absolutely rules. It's completely ludicrous that The Farewell got shut out the way it did.

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In a year with some great movies, Knives Out might be my favorite of 2019. Loved it!

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And now I've seen Jojo Rabbit and Marriage Story so I'm comfortable with my usual "see all of the Best Picture nominees but one" intake. I think for me the power ranking would go Parasite, The Irishman, Marriage Story, Little Women, bit of a dropoff to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, then another dropoff to Jojo which I liked but didn't think was all that special and 1917 which is super-impressive but not the kind of movie I'm ever going to fall for, then Ford vs. Ferrari which I didn't see, and then Joker.

(For acting I'd go Adam Driver, Saorsie Ronan, Al Pacino, Florence Pugh)

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Since I'm bored at work because I hate Mondays, here's who I want to win with maybe who I think will win in brackets or something:

Best Picture: Little Women (1917)
Best Director: Bong Joon-ho (Quentin Tarantino)
Best Actress: Saoirse Ronan (Renee Zellweger)
Best Actor: Adam Driver (Joaquin Phoenix)
Best Supporting Actress: Florence Pugh (Laura Dern)

Also Pitt just won but I'm actually fine with that, though I would have loved it if Tom Hanks won. 

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I've never been happier about a Best Picture win. Only Moonlight's Dusty Finish win comes close.

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Parasite winning everything it did was great, I haven't seen it but I've heard a lot of good and I genuinely am surprised it did THAT well tonight, but by all accounts it's well deserved. 

Very pleased with the Joaquin Phoenix win; he's never been one of my favorite actors, but I thought he was stellar in Joker (i really loved the movie as a whole and thought it should have absolutely won Best Cinematography to be honest, though I'm thrilled it won the Best Score because that was one of the most memorable scores in recent history). Renee Zellweger winning felt like a big comback thank you welcome home win. I would have rather seen Scarlett Johansson take the win or Cynthis Erivo. I'm fine with Pitt winning, and Laura Dern as well, though I was pulling for Florence Pugh. 

Elton John scoring the win was surprising, but also felt like another "thanks for being you" award. Genuinely, the songs nominated were all fairly lackluster overall, except for Stand Up from Harriet. That was a jawdropping performance and a really great song and they missed the mark not awarding it tonight. 

A little surprised at Production Design being awarded to Once Upon A Time in Hollywood (thought certainly not a bad thing), as I thought Jojo Rabbit might have snagged that one. Its a weird category, and maybe because this field is what I do for a living, but I'm surprised to see the Production Designer and Decorator nominated for this and Art Director not being involved. Seems strange to me... I will say though, boo on the Production Designer thanking "you know, the team", but props to the Decorator for naming them even quickly, and for giving a shout out to the Props Master by full name, as they/we are largely forgotten by the Academy as a whole (as well as most award shows). 

Costume Design was going to nobody outside of Little Women, the scale of the work they did is enormous and it looks really great; I've done period stuff like this and it's not easy to do (though I'd argue a period piece set in the 70s has it's own immense challenges and I have a lot of respect for the teams of Joker and Once Upon A Time in Hollywood), though it's another category I could have seen Jojo Rabbit take. And the hair and makeup for Bombshell was a lock, surely. Nobody came close. 

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I'm okay with the Oscars giving time to Best Song winners who never performed the song at the actual Oscars but only as long as it's Man or Muppet's turn next year.

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Who is this wally?

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He is now claiming he is not racist by saying that he isn't racist but a foreign film shouldn't have won.

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My favorite part of the Oscars was Idina Menzel's absolutely baffled look during Eminem's performance.

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As cathartic as it is to drag the dude who had that Parasite take, and the fact that he tweeted that after Best Original Screenplay meaning he probably got a billion tweets dragging him during every subsequent Oscar win it got is pretty funny, keep in mind that stuff like this is often not a sincere opinion but rather a grift to get attention and work your way up the right-wing media ladder.

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I love how "woke" apparently just means literally any film that isn't just about straight white people now.

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does parasite have any jump scares? it's finally come to this shitty town -- I'll be seeing it regardless but my girlfriend hates jump scares and isn't all that into horror/thrillers.

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It might have one or two near the end. It's really not a horror movie, though it does probably count as a thriller. To me, "dark comedy" is probably the correct label.

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