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I'm about 45 minutes in. There has been 3 sex scenes shot in the style of a 90's RnB music video. What in the actual fuck am I watching.

Also, I don't know if my brain is playing tricks on me or if every line Wiseau says is dubbed? Or is it just terrible editing?

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The Room is an experience. It isn't terribly made per se (because wiseau could afford people who knew what they were doing ) but they were being led by (to what extent there is doubt) Wiseau. 

And so you get something with the look and quality of soft core porn and story telling by a weird dude who is writing in his second language and doesn't get how humans actually work.

Every Wiseau line is over dubbed by Wiseau. I would assume either because he wasnt clear enough in the original take or wiseau just wanted to really get his lines across.

ADR (Automatic Dialogue Replacement not Alberto del Rio) isn't necessarily a "bad" thing though. It is a fairly common practice.

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"Hey Lisa, how are you doing?"

"Hey Denny, I'm busy. Do you want anything to drink?"

Why are you offering him something to drink if you're busy?! 

I was going to give this movie some leeway, but Wiseau's ass comes into view like 7 minutes into the movie so I don't know if I want to anymore.

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59 minutes ago, Benjamin said:

I was going to give this movie some leeway, but Wiseau's ass comes into view like 7 minutes into the movie so I don't know if I want to anymore.

I haven't seen the Room either but this is amazing. Like, his ass is hovering only just offscreen for the first 6 minutes but then grabs it's moment in the 7th.

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Jesus Christ this film.

"So can I come in tomorrow, say, late afternoon?"

"Absolutely. 8:00?"

"Great!"

Is it 8AM? 8PM? Are either of those times rationally in the vicinity of the description of "late afternoon"?!

This film made me hate myself, I think.

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2 minutes ago, Skummy said:

I watched Batman vs. Superman last night. I honestly think it's the worst movie I've ever seen.

 

17 hours ago, joshCO! said:

Batman vs. Superman is WONDERFUL in it’s inexplicable choices. Far too many quotable moments.

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It's boring. For me, that's the worst thing a film can be. The Room or Birdemic would probably top my list of objectively worst films, in that they seem to get just about everything wrong that you can get wrong, but I can have fun watching them, and quoting them, and get some kind of enjoyment out of them. And with those films, like with something by Ed Wood, I always get the impression that they were made with real passion and energy, just by people with no idea how to actually make a movie - and I find something quite endearing about that.

I'm always going to judge a big Hollywood blockbuster by harsher standards than something like The Room, because it has none of The Room's excuses. They had every single tool available at their disposal, and still churned out utter dross.

I don't normally like to make much reference to the source material when it comes to comic book movies, because I find, "that's not how it happened in the comics!" to be the most useless criticism - firstly, because this isn't the comics, it's a new adaptation, and secondly because the comics have been running for (depending on the character) potentially up to sixty or seventy years, so you couldn't hope to accurately represent all of that in one or two movies, and anything that did happen in the comics likely happened a hundred different ways there over the years too. But in this case, I have to question whether anyone involved in the making of this movie had ever even read a Batman or Superman comic.

Lex Luthor seems to be played as if he's a cross between a youth-oriented YouTuber and a Big Bang Theory reject, Bruce Wayne comes across as the least likeable man in the entire movie, Batman is a gun-toting vindictive fascist wet dream (branding criminals and talking about how a criminal is always a criminal, fucking hell) in an absolutely preposterous bulky mech-suit (which he still wears a sodding overcoat over at one point, like Rhino in the Spider-Man cartoon), while Superman is just a moping hunk with no personality whatsoever. It's just a series of over-produced cliché and melodramatic set-pieces, nothing ever feels like it matters, the fight scenes are ridiculous, characters are introduced and then forgotten about for no good reason, and every time they aim for a significant moment it comes across as the most cringeworthy moment imaginable - Lex Luthor saying, "Clark Kent meets Bruce Wayne!" as if it's a momentous occasion being the most egregious example of that.

It also suffers from the Christopher Nolan syndrome of seeming ashamed to admit to itself that it's a superhero/comic book movie, constantly referring to Batman as "The Gotham Bat" (rather than having the press give him an equally fitting nickname like, oh, I don't know, BATMAN?!), and Superman as "The Man From The Sky". You're making Batman vs. Superman, don't try and make it plausible, you've got Ben Affleck as a walking tank flinging Superman over his head from a bit of cable, this isn't realistic - just call them Batman and Superman and get on with it.

And, of course, "Martha". Bruce Wayne - a celebrity socialite - who is also Batman, a character almost solely defined by being single-minded and driven to the point that it's at risk of destroying his life, and by having a near black and white sense of morality and fixation on justice, changes his entire world-view and motivation in an instant because it has apparently never once occurred to him that two women might share the same first name, or that other people have mothers.

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16 hours ago, Skummy said:

It's boring. For me, that's the worst thing a film can be. The Room or Birdemic would probably top my list of objectively worst films, in that they seem to get just about everything wrong that you can get wrong, but I can have fun watching them, and quoting them, and get some kind of enjoyment out of them. And with those films, like with something by Ed Wood, I always get the impression that they were made with real passion and energy, just by people with no idea how to actually make a movie - and I find something quite endearing about that.

I'm always going to judge a big Hollywood blockbuster by harsher standards than something like The Room, because it has none of The Room's excuses. They had every single tool available at their disposal, and still churned out utter dross.

I don't normally like to make much reference to the source material when it comes to comic book movies, because I find, "that's not how it happened in the comics!" to be the most useless criticism - firstly, because this isn't the comics, it's a new adaptation, and secondly because the comics have been running for (depending on the character) potentially up to sixty or seventy years, so you couldn't hope to accurately represent all of that in one or two movies, and anything that did happen in the comics likely happened a hundred different ways there over the years too. But in this case, I have to question whether anyone involved in the making of this movie had ever even read a Batman or Superman comic.

Lex Luthor seems to be played as if he's a cross between a youth-oriented YouTuber and a Big Bang Theory reject, Bruce Wayne comes across as the least likeable man in the entire movie, Batman is a gun-toting vindictive fascist wet dream (branding criminals and talking about how a criminal is always a criminal, fucking hell) in an absolutely preposterous bulky mech-suit (which he still wears a sodding overcoat over at one point, like Rhino in the Spider-Man cartoon), while Superman is just a moping hunk with no personality whatsoever. It's just a series of over-produced cliché and melodramatic set-pieces, nothing ever feels like it matters, the fight scenes are ridiculous, characters are introduced and then forgotten about for no good reason, and every time they aim for a significant moment it comes across as the most cringeworthy moment imaginable - Lex Luthor saying, "Clark Kent meets Bruce Wayne!" as if it's a momentous occasion being the most egregious example of that.

It also suffers from the Christopher Nolan syndrome of seeming ashamed to admit to itself that it's a superhero/comic book movie, constantly referring to Batman as "The Gotham Bat" (rather than having the press give him an equally fitting nickname like, oh, I don't know, BATMAN?!), and Superman as "The Man From The Sky". You're making Batman vs. Superman, don't try and make it plausible, you've got Ben Affleck as a walking tank flinging Superman over his head from a bit of cable, this isn't realistic - just call them Batman and Superman and get on with it.

And, of course, "Martha". Bruce Wayne - a celebrity socialite - who is also Batman, a character almost solely defined by being single-minded and driven to the point that it's at risk of destroying his life, and by having a near black and white sense of morality and fixation on justice, changes his entire world-view and motivation in an instant because it has apparently never once occurred to him that two women might share the same first name, or that other people have mothers.

Just one bit. It was implied that Bruce wasn't always like this and was once the Batman people would expect but getting older, losing a Robin and other such stuff drove him over the edge in a bad way.

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5 hours ago, =BK= said:

Just one bit. It was implied that Bruce wasn't always like this and was once the Batman people would expect but getting older, losing a Robin and other such stuff drove him over the edge in a bad way.

Which means, basically, that all of Batman's character development occurs off-screen, in a better story than the one the movie actually tells.

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16 hours ago, Ms. Canadian Destroyer said:

Movie Pass has 1.5 million subscribers, adding almost 500,000 in the last month.

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/moviepass-subscribers-1-5-million-1202658167/

I didn't read the article, but I know that Costco started selling year-long memberships in the past month, so I'd imagine that has something to do with such a large jump in the last month.

Plus, it's Oscar season, now's when the good movies come out.

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