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Or he could just do something else everytime it's loading like you're meant to...

Which I was doing. I was browsing EWB.

Oh, and then I posted on EWB. In this very thread in fact.

So why complain then?

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The next promotion I'm wanting to add is Family Wrestling Entertainment (FWE), but I dunno if that'll happen in time for the August update, as I still have no idea on what their promotion Size, Money, Image, Risk, Production, Advertising and Merchandising should be. I have little more than a roster for them. I don't even have suggestions for the images (Prestige, not pics) of the belts. Without this info, I'd be taking a lot of shots in the dark as to what to give them.

This is my first shot at promotion stats, so if anyone wants to edit me feel free.

Name: Family Wrestling Entertainment
Initials: FWE
Size: Regional
Based in: America
Money: 2.4 mil
Image: 55
Large Event Announcers: none (should be owner Jordan Schneider, but the game won't let him be two places at once) and either Katarina Leigh or Matt Striker
Roster Splits: HOH
Risk: 68
Production: 60
Advertising: 55
Merchandising: 36
Development Territory: n/a
Training Camp: House of Hardcore School, camp facilities Average, head trainer none (should be Tommy Dreamer, but he's a worker)
Titles:
FWE Heavyweight Title - 40 image, currently held by John Morrison
FWE Tri-Borough Title - 28 image, currently held by Paul London
FWE Tag Team Title - 19 image, currently held by EJ Risk (still needs to be added) and VSK
Add FWE owner Jordan Schneider to the game.

Name: Jordan Schneider
Gender: Male
Birth Month: January
Age: 29
Employer: FWE
Contract: Written
Position: Owner
Wage: n/a
Talent: 74
Backstage: 91
Tick Unsackable and Booker
Owner Style: Normal

When I have time I'll still try to work up stats for some more of the missing workers and staff.

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RE: relationships. I'm sitting here in the... 13th, 14th minute of loading up the latest data and a lot of that loading time is caused by the massively bloated relationships file. If anything, we should be looking to get rid of relationships rather than adding more, or at least doing almost a like-for-like thing whereby we'd remove one for every one added. All adding more does is just increase loading time.

I've said multiple times that, if people feel that there are relationships in the game that they don't feel reflect the in-game results correctly (such as a loyalty between two people, when neither of those two would quit a job for the other) please bring them up and we can certainly remove them. But, on the other side of that, I feel that relationships should be added when the result of the in-game mechanics warrant it. In other words, I don't want to NOT add a relationship that should be in the game, just because "the relationships file is too big."

On the surface, I completely agree with you... There most likely ARE relationships in the game that don't need to be in, as having those relationships in the game affects the game in a non-realistic way.

The problem is, nobody has gone through and said "Here are the relationships that I don't feel should be in the game for these reasons... Let's discuss them." I don't want to just go through and remove relationships because of my opinion, I want to remove the ones that really don't belong (meaning that they result in an in-game effect that isn't realistic). A relationship that I removed (because someone suggested it) was the Mr. McMahon/Ultimate Warrior relationship. Due to Warrior being in the WWE2K14 game and especially since Warrior was interviewed by WWE.com and McMahon personally welcomed Warrior back on Twitter, I don't feel that McMahon and Warrior would not want to work with each other in the same promotion.

IMO, these are the kinds of relationships that should be removed. Another one that I removed, IIRC, was Jericho and RVD... I don't remember if it was a dislike or hate, but it was a negative relationship that would have affected their work together in EWR, due to that relationship. With them having a great match on RAW (and Jericho acknowledging that) there is no reason to have a relationship in the game that could potentially mess up their in-game work together.

Hopefully, this all makes sense. In short, I'm all for removing relationships in the game that shouldn't be there. But, I want to make sure we remove the RIGHT relationships and remove them because they shouldn't be there, not just because the "file is too full already."

What I've got so far just from looking at WWE guys. Most of these are loyalties because, going off what you mentioned, I highly doubt Antonio Cesaro would quit WWE if someone like Frightmare was released. On the hate/dislike one's included is everyone I couldn't find by doing a google search except the CM Punk one which is 12 years old at this point and with someone who I doubt CM Punk even remembered.

I've no idea why Vic Capri-CM Punk is dislike (again - and like with all of these - I'll drop this if someone has anything indicating an actual dislike rather than the friendship indicated in the youtube video linked below).

Antonio Cesaro: -
- Amasis
- Ares
- Frightmare
- HATE
- Medianoche
Booker T: -
- Denton Blackwell
- Jessica Hatch
- Jessica James
- Neico
- Steven Slocum
- The Boogeyman
- venus
Bret Hart: -
- Jason the Legend
- Massive Damage
- The Acadian Giant
- Thomas Blade
Brie Bella: -
- Rosa Mendes
Chris Jericho: -
- Balls Mahoney
CM Punk: -
- Jayson Reign
- John Zandig
- Vic Capri (maybe change to like?
)
- Jacey North (due to passage of time)
Cody Rhodes: -
- Glacier
- Bruno Sassi
Curt Hawkins: -
- Gabe Tuft
Damien Sandow: -
- Sara Jay
I'll post some more tomorrow.
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It's highly unlikely that anyone one would leave WWE if someone else got fired, apart from Jerry Lawler and Stacy Carter I can't think of when it's happened. If they were at a smaller company it could though, a lot of those for Bret, Cesaro and Booker could be people they've trained?

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It's highly unlikely that anyone one would leave WWE if someone else got fired, apart from Jerry Lawler and Stacy Carter I can't think of when it's happened. If they were at a smaller company it could though, a lot of those for Bret, Cesaro and Booker could be people they've trained?

Mick Foley quit WWE after the Screwjob. I'm sure the other Hart Foundation guys wanted too.

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It's highly unlikely that anyone one would leave WWE if someone else got fired, apart from Jerry Lawler and Stacy Carter I can't think of when it's happened. If they were at a smaller company it could though, a lot of those for Bret, Cesaro and Booker could be people they've trained?

Mick Foley quit WWE after the Screwjob. I'm sure the other Hart Foundation guys wanted too.
I forgot about that, it wasn't your usual firing though. I know Bulldog, Neidhart, Rude and Brian Adams or Lee left as well. How long was Foley gone for? Not very long I don't think.

I've just looked it up and apparently he took his resignation back the next day.

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Not sure where to ask this, but does anybody know anything about a worker named Sabunim in the database? A quick Google search revealed that it is probably a typo for Sabumnim, which is Korean for "Master", but I can't find anything about the specific wrestler. He doesn't have any alter egos in the game. Help?

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It's highly unlikely that anyone one would leave WWE if someone else got fired, apart from Jerry Lawler and Stacy Carter I can't think of when it's happened. If they were at a smaller company it could though, a lot of those for Bret, Cesaro and Booker could be people they've trained?

Some of the ones for Bret and Booker are.

Cesaro had a hand in training all the guys listed for him, too, as he was co-head trainer at the Wrestle Factory when they were trained. Cesaro's trainees could probably do with a friendship relationship to him rather than loyalty, though - enough to make him happy if they're signed, but not so much that he'd threaten to quit if you released them. Most of the Bret and Booker ones probably less than that, as I doubt it would bother them either way - being trained by someone isn't automatically a sign of loyalty. One of the guys at CIW was trained by Billy Gunn and D'Lo Brown, and I doubt they'd care either way if WWE hired him.

I seem to remember Booker and Boogeyman being good friends, though, so maybe just a friendship for them?

It's highly unlikely that anyone one would leave WWE if someone else got fired, apart from Jerry Lawler and Stacy Carter I can't think of when it's happened. If they were at a smaller company it could though, a lot of those for Bret, Cesaro and Booker could be people they've trained?

Mick Foley quit WWE after the Screwjob. I'm sure the other Hart Foundation guys wanted too.

Mick threatened to quit, didn't actually go. Neidhart and Davey Boy did, though, and others probably threatened to. You could easily find precedent for people quitting a promotion over the treatment of their friends in the indies, or even in major Japanese or Mexican promotions, though it's less common in mainstream American wrestling largely due to the nature of WWE contracts.

You should totally add Channel Island Wrestling as a promotion :w00t:

It's a North American sim only, I'm afraid ;) Though feel free to add the "stars"...

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Here's a good chunk of the other missing FWE workers. (Accidentally posted this on the June update as I had that thread open to check the roster list I'd posted there to see how many more there were to be added after this. Sorry 'bout that.)
Add Damien Darling

Name: Damien Darling
Short Name: Darling
Gender: Male
Age: 28
Birth Month: Unknown
Weight: Light
Nationality: American
Over: 48
Brawl: 59
Speed: 36
Tech: 64
Char: 65
Stiff: 44
Sell: 68
Att: 81
Behav: 74
Tick: Superstar Look
Primary Finisher: Superplex (corner)
Secondary Finisher: Superplex (corner)
Speaks: Yes
Wage: 10k
Contracts: FWE, open contract, heel, midcard, Arrogant
Alter Egos: Damien HS Darling, The Final Freebird, D-List Damien Darling, Doink the Clown
Relationships: Hate with Tammy Lynn Sytch

Add Diamond Dee

Name: Diamond Dee
Short Name: Diamond Dee
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Birth Month: Unknown
Weight: Light
Nationality: American
Over: 15
Brawl: 5
Speed: 1
Tech: 2
Char: 44
Stiff: 10
Sell: 29
Att: 88
Behav: 91
Tick: Diva
Primary Finisher: Low Blow (impact)
Secondary Finisher: Bitch Slap (impact)
Speaks: Yes
Wage: 4k
Contracts: FWE, open contract, heel, manager, Seductress
Alter Egos: Lady Diamond Dee, Erica Dee
Relationships: Love with Joey Ace
Other: Manages Jason Gotti and Joey Ace

Add EJ Risk

Name: EJ Risk
Short Name: Risk
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birth Month: March
Weight: Light
Nationality: American
Over: 18
Brawl: 32
Speed: 64
Tech: 51
Char: 62
Stiff: 44
Sell: 65
Att: 91
Behav: 89
Tick: Superstar Look
Primary Finisher: Springboard Enzuigiri (top rope)
Secondary Finisher: Springboard Enzuigiri (top rope)
Speaks: Yes
Wage: 5k
Contracts: FWE, open contract, face, lower midcard, Blue Chipper
Alter Egos: Eric Gonzalez
Relationships: n/a
Other: Tag team with VSK, Adrenaline Express, 15 exp., active, finisher Adrenaline Shot

Add Joey Ace

Name: Joey Ace
Short Name: Ace
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birth Month: June
Weight: Light
Nationality: American
Over: 17
Brawl: 45
Speed: 56
Tech: 42
Char: 56
Stiff: 42
Sell: 56
Att: 90
Behav: 90
Tick: n/a
Primary Finisher: Swinging Neckbreaker (impact)
Secondary Finisher: Death Valley Driver (impact)
Speaks: Yes
Wage: 5k
Contracts: FWE, open contract, heel, lower midcard, Cocky
Alter Egos: The 5 Star Studd, Joey Anthony Torres, Joseph Torres
Relationships: Love with Diamond Dee
Other: Tag team with Jason Gotti, Diamond Inc., 10 exp., active

Add Johnny Knockout

Name: Johnny Knockout
Short Name: JKO
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Birth Month: May
Weight: Light
Nationality: American
Over: 22
Brawl: 51
Speed: 42
Tech: 61
Char: 64
Stiff: 49
Sell: 61
Att: 95
Behav: 95
Tick: Superstar Look
Primary Finisher: Crack in the Mirror (impact)
Secondary Finisher: Cliffhanger (impact)
Speaks: Yes
Wage: 7k
Contracts: FWE, open contract, face, lower midcard, No Gimmick Needed
Alter Egos: Johnny Andrews, JKO, The Cinematic Superstar
Relationships: n/a

Add Jorge Santi

Name: Jorge Santi
Short Name: Santi
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Birth Month: Unknown
Weight: Light
Nationality: American
Over: 42
Brawl: 48
Speed: 74
Tech: 65
Char: 58
Stiff: 41
Sell: 71
Att: 95
Behav: 95
Tick: High Spots
Primary Finisher: Tiger Bomb (impact)
Secondary Finisher: Mario Stomp (top rope standing)
Speaks: Yes
Wage: 8k
Contracts: FWE, open contract, face, midcard, No Gimmick Needed
Alter Egos: Firebird Jorge Santi
Relationships: n/a

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Looking at the AAA and CMLL rosters, they seemed like they could use some work.

For AAA, Remove:

Angel Mortal, Chris Stone, Decniss, Dr. Wagner Jr., El Gallego, El Guapito, Extreme Tiger, Jessy, Juventud Guerrera, L.A. Par-K, Mascara Ano 2000, Mascarita Dorada, Taboo, Sexy Star, and Tigre Cota as they left AAA/not been used or not on the roster.

These guys need their name/characters changed:

El Brazo to La Braza, Dark Dragon to Pentagon Jr. with a ninja gimmick, Semental to Machine Rocker, Tito Santana II to Soul Rocker, rebel gimmick change, Zorro to La Parka Negra, mysterious/old school heel gimmick change, Mascara Divina to Alebrije II, comedy character gimmick change

These wrestlers need to be added to the roster:

Axxel, Blue Demon Jr., Dark Espiritu (didn't see him on the roster), Freelance, Sexy Lady, Angelico, Picudo with a name change of Devil Rocker, rebel gimmick change, Eterno, Eita Kobayashi, maybe shorten his name to Eita?, Ricky Marvin

I'm not good with stats, but these wrestlers need to be added to the game for anyone who follows lucha libre and good at making stats:

Bugambilla http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Bugambilia

Lucky Boy http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Lucky_Boy

Black Mamba http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Black_Mamba

Nino de Ebano http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Ni%C3%B1o_de_Ebano

La Jarochita http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Jarochita

Flamita http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Flamita

Jinzo http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Jinzo

Nino Hamburguesa http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Ni%C3%B1o_Hamburguesa

Saturno http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Saturno

Rey Celestial http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Rey_Celestial

Dizzy http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Dizzy

Steve Pain http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Steve_Pain

Carta Brava Jr. http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Carta_Brava_Jr._II

Mini Monster Clown's age should be increased to 42, month November http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Mini_Monster_Clown

Mini Murder Clown's family members include Sin Cara, Argenis, Argos and Magnus CMLL http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Mini_Murder_Clown

Mini Psicosis III's age should be increased to 39? month August? http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Mini_Psicosis_III

These should be the stables added/changed in AAA:

Los Mirreyes (Toscano (captain), Alan Stone, El Elegido)

Los Mexican Power (Joe Lider (captain), Crazy Boy, Atomic Boy, Alebrije II, Cuije II, Nino Hamburguesa)

La Secta Bizarra (Cibernetico (captain), Dark Ozz, Dark Cuervo, Dark Espiritu, Escoria)

Los Perros del Mal (Perro Aguayo Jr. (captain), Daga, Halloween, Psicosis, Ricky Marvin, Eita, Taya Valkyrie)

El Consejo(Texano Jr.(captain), Silver Cain, Mascara Ano 2000 Jr., Agros)

Los Infierno Rockers (Devil Rocker(captain), Machine Rocker, Soul Rocker)

Remove these stables:

Infermundo, La Maniarquia, La Milicia, La Sociedad, Los Bizarros,Legion Extranjera, Los Maniacos, Real Fuerza Aerea, Los Diabolicos

Change these champions:

AAA Latin American Champion - Blue Demon Jr.

AAA Mixed Tag Team Champions - Drago & Fabi Apache

AAA Reina de Reinas Champion - Fabi Apache

AAA Rey de Reyes Champion - El Mesias

AAA Mini Estrellas Champion - Dinastia

Add AAA Fusion Championship, make Fenix champion

For CMLL, remove: Hiroka, Ray, Rayo Tapatio I, Rayo Tapatio II, Shinsuke Nakamura, Yujiro Takahashi, Prince Devitt, Lady Apache

Change Dragon Lee's name to Mistico II

Add Tsuki to the roster

These wrestlers need to be added to the game:

Akuma http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Akuma_(2012)

El Cholo http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Cholo_(DF)

Comandante Pierroth http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Comandante_Pierroth

Espanto Jr. http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Espanto_Jr._(CMLL)

Genesis http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Genesis

Gran Guerrero http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Gran_Guerrero

Guerrero Negro Jr. http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Guerrero_Negro_Jr.

Herodes Jr. http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Herodes_Jr.

Oro Jr. http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Oro_Jr._(2012)

Molotov http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Molotov

Thunder http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Thunder

Trueno http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Trueno_(current)

Lady Afrodita http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Lady_Afrodita

Stukita http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Stukita

La Comandante http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=La_Comandante

Add/change these stables:

Los Cancerberos (Virus(leader), Raziel, Cancerbero)

Los Guerreros Laguneros (Ultimo Guerrero(leader), Euforia, Niebla Roja, Gran Guerrero)

Los Estetas del Aire (Mascara Dorada(leader), Mistico II, Volador Jr.)

Revolucionarios (Dragon Rojo Jr.(leader), Rey Scorpion, Polvora)

Comando Caribeno (Comandante Pierroth(leader), Pierrothito, Pequeno Violencia, La Comandante, Zeuxis)

Remove these stables:

Generacion Dorada, Los Joven Tapatios

Change these champions:

CMLL Arena Coliseo Tag Team Champions: Namajague & Okumura

CMLL Light Heavyweight Champion: Rey Scorpion

CMLL World Middleweight Champion: Dragon Rojo Jr.

CMLL Universal Champion: El Terrible

CMLL Welterweight Champion: Polvora

CMLL Minis Champion: Pequeno Olimpico

CMLL World Tag Team Champions: Hiroshi Tanahashi & Jushin Liger (add these two to the roster)

CMLL-REINA International Junior Champion: Zeuxis

Mexican National Women's Champion: Estrellita

Mexican National Welterweight Champion: Averno

NWA Historic Light Heavyweight Champion: Diamante Azul

NWA Historic Middleweight Champion: La Sombra

NWA Historic Welterweight Champion: Mascara Dorada

Occidente Light Heavyweight Champion: El Sagrado

Occidente Middleweight Champion: El Barbaro Cavernario (Add him to the game http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Barbaro_Cavernario)

Occidente Welterweight Champion: Leo (Add him to the game http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Leo)

Add Occidente Heavyweight Champion and make Olimpico the champion)

Anyone wants to help with the stats with the wrestlers mentioned, thanks!

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Charly Manson is still in as a non-wrestler. Since he's serving 15 years for assaulting a couple of cops he probably just needs to be removed.

I agree. He's what, close to 40 now? 15 years and he will be 55. There's really no need to keep him in the game. How long is Nick Gage in prison for?

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