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#AgentsofSHIELD is moving to summer 2019 #ABCupfronts

— Bradley Adams (@Bradley_AdamsTV) May 15, 2018

 

 

Presumably to have it tie in to Avengers 4. The wait will suck but its probably the right call and should be worth the wait.

 

 

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That's probably ultimately preferable to trying to do the logistics of a full season without around half the cast.

 

^ Infinity War spoilers, if we're still doing cuts for that.

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Spoilers for Infinity War/Captain Marvel...

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It occurs to me that Captain Marvel is going to have a lot of similarities to how The Sentry was brought into 616 with her being the biggest gun who people have apparently "forgotten" but is in reality being retconned into the history.

 

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3 hours ago, Benji said:

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I don't see how it is a retcon, is it because she's getting her own movie now? 

 

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11 hours ago, Benjamin said:
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I don't see how it is a retcon, is it because she's getting her own movie now? 

 

It isn't really a retcon, but her solo film takes place well in the past, before Iron Man. She becomes the first super powered hero that Nick Fury is in contact with. It's odd that she exists within this universe, in this same timeline, and no one has mentioned her once in the history of the MCU...despite obviously having been influential in the Avengers Initiative being launched, and being lauded as the most powerful being around, and Nick Fury's ace in the hole to take out Thanos.

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It isn't really a retcon, but her solo film takes place well in the past, before Iron Man. She becomes the first super powered hero that Nick Fury is in contact with. It's odd that she exists within this universe, in this same timeline, and no one has mentioned her once in the history of the MCU...despite obviously having been influential in the Avengers Initiative being launched, and being lauded as the most powerful being around, and Nick Fury's ace in the hole to take out Thanos.

 

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When did she become influential in the Avengers Initiative being launched or any of that other stuff?

 

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28 minutes ago, Benjamin said:
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When did she become influential in the Avengers Initiative being launched or any of that other stuff?

 

The Captain Marvel movie will take place in the 90s, making her the first super powered being to come into contact with Nick Fury. The story making the rounds is that Fury's interactions with her set him off on a mission to find more people like her, hence the Avengers Initiative. Obviously, Marvel herself is gone because she isn't a part of the Avengers, or even mentioned at all by SHIELD or anybody else. So how did she disappear and where did she go? The post-credits stinger for Infinity War is Fury sending out a call using a communicator with her logo on it, so it's not like he's forgotten her. She's just somewhere else, and will come running now that she is needed.

The question remains though, why wasn't she needed during the Chitauri invasion? A lot of people believe that she will be dealing with some similar issues to The Sentry, which would explain why our most powerful weapon was never considered for those battles, because the hope was that Fury's Avengers and other super-powered beings would be able to stop those threats on their own... but now Thanos.

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Cried like a baby 😢

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I mean I know the season finale was filmed as a complete bookend to the series as a whole, and I know that there's still 13 episodes to go in over a year... But like, with Coulson dying I feel the show has reached its full circle.

It all started with Coulson getting revived by Fury's secret project, and it ends with him passing away as the hero and with someone he loves. It's bittersweet, but also a perfect ending to a phenomenal character on an equally great show.

I also just don't feel that any of the characters on the show can hold a candle to Coulson on a week by week basis, he was by all intents the heart and soul of the show, the moral centerpiece that everything and everyoen revolved around. Mack is the better character choice for new SHIELD leader because Daisy is still way too 'flying solo' whenever people disagree with her, but I don't see a Mack spearheading the team or the show in narrative. I can't see anyone, really.

It just feels like this is the end, and those thirteen episodes are a dessert added onto it, but really it would be perfect even without it. But at the same time i'm not ready to say goodbye yet, but the best series never overstayed their welcome, and I think 5.5 seasons is the perfect place to end what has been one of the greatest shows on television, pound for pound.

Stray thoughts:
- Fitz dying was just suffering for me. I can't think up a death in fiction that has hit me harder, Fitz has always been my boy, and he deserved his happy ending so much.
- I know they're getting the cryo frozen Fitz out of space, but it feels, I don't know. I'm good with this cop out, but at the same time, it's kinda cheap.
- But FitzSimmons deserve their fucking happy ending dammit!
- Graviton getting launched into space by doped up Daisy was dope, and although it was a bit of a quick and clean finish to the story, it really never was the focus of the show, and it worked for what it was.
- I do wonder what this means for Daisy and her abilities, though. Because surely this makes her one of the most dangerous people in the universe, right?
- I hoped the Deke cliffhanger didn't happen, but at the same time it allows you to fill in the blanks however you want. I want to believe he's out there drinking zima's and exploring the world he never knew.
- All in all, just such a heavy emotionally loaded episode to a show that has been always sublime at character development. They made me care, they made me truly feel gutted and sad and depressed after the episode was done. Legendary end of the season to a show that has always been better than it had any right to be.

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It was a good episode, but....

 

The stuff with Fitz was just unnecessary. Why kill him after all the growth that he's had this season? That's just reverting his character, which is shit. And going after the cryo Fitz feels like such a cheap cop out. Either ruin FitzSimmons (and make everyone sad/mad), or let them fucking be happy (which is what everyone wants).

 

Also! How the hell is Simmons ok with this situation!? "Welp, my husband died. Time to pluck out his past self from space." Like, no! That's not your Fitz! He's not the same!

 

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1 hour ago, Ruki said:

It was a good episode, but....

 

 

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Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. I was actually so confused by the whole conversation going on and I was wondering when they sent Fitz of the current timeline into space, not the one they came back to. Just really weird that she'd be okay with that Fitz, which feels more like a consolation prize than the person she actually loves. I mean, she made the promise to never leave each other's side with the dead Fitz, not the one floating in space. They went through other growths together, found out about Deke together, so this is just weird. I guess when they wake that Fitz up he'll know that he fixed the timeline by doing the whole body freezing thing. Just weird, IMO.

Also, he wasn't shot into space, right? Didn't the bald alien guy who I can't remember his name of just freeze him, then just keep him in the lighthouse with him? They had a spaceship?

 

 

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Daredevil S3 spoiler:

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AWW YEAH MORE KINGPIN

 

 

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Watched the first three episodes of Runaways. I'm really liking it.

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Not hugely keen on the changes to Molly, but I understand the various reasons (issues of a younger child actor aging differently to the teenage cast if they don't have each season last a full year, bringing in an otherwise unrepresented POC into the group). It's not going to blow anyone away, but I feel like they have expanded on the original material well without betraying the feel (at least not yet).

I absolutely adore the visuals, the cinematography is exactly what I feel a Runaways TV translation should be. Old Lace looks a bit tacky, but that was something I expected going in because of budget. The casting is almost perfect, though I am not entirely sold on Chase just yet.

Basically, it's a good way to spend an hour or two at a time and I'd suggest giving it a shot as something a bit different to the other Marvel shows.

 

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5 minutes ago, Benji said:

Watched the first three episodes of Runaways. I'm really liking it.

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Not hugely keen on the changes to Molly, but I understand the various reasons (issues of a younger child actor aging differently to the teenage cast if they don't have each season last a full year, bringing in an otherwise unrepresented POC into the group). It's not going to blow anyone away, but I feel like they have expanded on the original material well without betraying the feel (at least not yet).

I absolutely adore the visuals, the cinematography is exactly what I feel a Runaways TV translation should be. Old Lace looks a bit tacky, but that was something I expected going in because of budget. The casting is almost perfect, though I am not entirely sold on Chase just yet.

Basically, it's a good way to spend an hour or two at a time and I'd suggest giving it a shot as something a bit different to the other Marvel shows.

 

Yeah, I've been enjoying it too. Not sure I can quite put my finger on why, but it does feel a little different to other Marvel shows. 

EDIT: Is Runaways meant to be in the MCU btw? 

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32 minutes ago, DFF said:

Yeah, I've been enjoying it too. Not sure I can quite put my finger on why, but it does feel a little different to other Marvel shows. 

EDIT: Is Runaways meant to be in the MCU btw? 

Having not seen The Runaways yet, I'd guess its like Agents of SHIELD and the Netflix shows.  They'll occasionally acknowledge what happens in the MCU, but it won't have an overall impact on the show 

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On 20/05/2018 at 14:27, Benjamin said:
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At the end of episode 5, Enoch - the bald guy - said he'd summoned a Chronocom vessel, and would take Fitz away from Earth until he woke up. At the end of the episode, he woke up in 2091 on said spaceship, which given the distance it is from Earth - 365 million miles - puts it roughly orbiting Jupiter. It's why the postcard showed up again; before getting in the cryofreeze chamber, Fitz wrote his "working on it" message on the back of it and gave it to Robin.

 

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13 hours ago, Benji said:

Watched the first three episodes of Runaways. I'm really liking it.

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Holy fuck, James Marsden and Julian McMahon in the same show? I am so beyond sold.

 

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4 hours ago, Benji said:

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Don't think there are any cast members who are on EWB, though :shifty:

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5 hours ago, Benjamin said:

Don't think there are any cast members who are on EWB, though :shifty:

Whatever joke you are making has gone over my head :huh:

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Wouldn't be a surprise if the actual joke was that I have really bad grammar :(

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Oh no wait, I just got it :lol: Not you, my brain wasn't connecting what you meant.

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So finished The Runaways...some thoughts.  First off, I only signed up for Hulu so I could watch this (it only cost me $3 to add it to my spotify account) and supposedly Cloak & Dagger will be on it, so added bonus

I didn't love the show, but I didn't hate it.  Thought it was just "OK".  Felt like a lot more could've been explained.  The entire "religion" in the show, Gibborim, just felt...meh.  It seemed like the ideas behind the religion weren't explained, like, at all.  "I'm going Ultra" "You're going to go Ultra" "You didn't go Ultra"...ok, you haven't explained what the fuck "going Ultra" means, so I really don't care!

And apparently Jonah and Karolina are aliens?  I only know that because I looked up The Runaways on Wikipedia and read she is.  The mother "not knowing" about her powers and Jonah also having them just says he's an alien also.  It would've been great for the show to establish they were aliens, or if they don't go that route, some reason for them to have those powers.  

 

But I did like some stuff.  I did think the teen actors and adult actors all had great chemistry.  

While there was no direct reference to the MCU that I can remember, it does feel like these kids grew up in a world with Iron Man, Captain America, The Hulk, Doctor Strange, Thor etc... Simply because, when Nico showed using off that staff, or Karolina turned into a walking rave, or Gert could control a dinosaur, or Molly was super strong, none of them were really like "OH SHIT CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS?!"  and more like "Well, there is a green rage monster, Nordic Gods have walked the Earth, an evil AI tried to kill us all, a revived branch of Nazi's tried to kill us all....this just seems normal"  

And I really grew to like Old Lace.  Yea, it did look kinda cheesy, but it was a puppet controlled by 6 people, and it didn't look TOO bad for a streaming budget.  And the part were Gert says goodbye to Old Lace, while not as tear jerking as some moments in the MCU, did strike me as rather sad. 

Like I said, I didn't love it and I didn't hate it.  I saw AV Club gave the season a C+ overall, and I'd agree with that.  It built up a solid foundation and S2 should be really good

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On 19/05/2018 at 21:45, Ruki said:

It was a good episode, but....

 

 

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I finally watched this the other day. Yeah fuck that show. Kinda wish it had been cancelled after seeing that

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Finally finished Jessica Jones: Season 2.

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Yeah, despite some good moments, I feel like this is the weakest of the Netflix MCU shows seasons besides possibly Defenders, which is a shame because S1 of this is arguably on par with Daredevil S1. The lack of any real villain - especially following Kilgrave - as well as pacing issues, and a lot of focus on Hogarth (who - seriously - does anyone care about?) definitely hurt the show.

It wasn't downright awful, there were some real highlights, and in particular the flashback episode I greatly enjoyed, as well as the stuff with Trish and Malcolm, and Ritter was pitch perfect as JJ again even if the actual writing wasn't great. I think it just felt like it lacked a cohesive focus. Nothing the show can't recover from, and I entirely get why people would disagree with my sentiment, but it just didn't feel like this season was as up my alley as I would have liked.

 

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