2015 NFL Off Season Thread

[Meacon Keaton]

The police did say he wasn't a suspect prior to the draft. I really can't believe someone didn't just take a chance on him in the seventh. Maybe he doesn't sign with you, but maybe he does.

[gunnar hendershow]

It's a pretty rough situation for him to have been in, but surely there should be some safeguard in place so guys can't say this to then give them a free choice of who they want to play for. I don't think exactly this happened with him, but I don't know why there isn't a rule preventing it.

Edited May 8, 2015 by damdevil

[Meacon Keaton]

He gets to play for whoever he wants, but he most likely lost out on a few million guaranteed.

[gunnar hendershow]

In a sense he lost money, but he gets to sign an extension sooner.

[Maxx]

Yeah there are limits to how much you can pay an undrafted free agent. Supplemental is for people who didn't enter the draft or couldn't enter the draft. Collins entered and no one picked him, then the league said he couldn't enter again.

[gunnar hendershow]

And again, it's a bad rule. They awarded a free first round pick to whoever decided to sign him.

[Maxx]

Every team had several chances to draft him and they didn't.

[VerbalPuke]

We had fans screaming to draft him with the 2nd or 3rd rounder. I mean, it would have been bad to waste a pick, but a team with multiple 6th or 7th rounders? Why the hell not?

I understand that if he was drafted and sat out he could re-enter the draft, but don't understand why the NFL wouldn't allow him to be in the supplemental draft. In fact, how is the supplemental draft decided? Isn't it something to do with players that may have been academically ineligible?

Edit - Never mind, I'm ignorant. The happy pills are frying me up tonight.

[Meacon Keaton]

If they had let him in the supplemental draft, then they'd have to let everybody that isn't drafted into the supplemental draft, and then it'll become a whole thing, and more or less kill the undrafted free agent pool.

[gunnar hendershow]

We had fans screaming to draft him with the 2nd or 3rd rounder. I mean, it would have been bad to waste a pick, but a team with multiple 6th or 7th rounders? Why the hell not?

See Rice, Ray

PR suicide until he was completely exonerated. People were flipping shit a couple days ago when teams were talking to him since he hadn't been completely cleared.

It's just another piece on the pile of the ineptly run National Football League. The only way they could have avoided this situation would be to have contingency plans in place for highly-rated draft picks, they sure seem to know who they are since they invite them all to the draft.

Edited May 8, 2015 by damdevil

[Maxx]

At no point do I recall them saying he was a suspect, it was always "wanted for questioning, not considered a suspect" And that theory doesn't hold much water when a team didn't hesitate to draft Frank Clark.

[gunnar hendershow]

No he never was listed as a suspect, but you are well aware of the public perception of NFL players who sneeze near a crime now. The pendulum has swung completely in that direction. Seahawks are getting well-deserved flack for drafting Frank Clark.

[Maxx]

And for whatever reason, teams chose not to draft Collins, so he went through the process all undrafted players went through. I'm surprised the Cowboys didn't spend a 7th rounder on him. Doesn't matter if you're projected to be a first rounder or a seventh rounder, if you're eligible and declared and you don't get drafted, you can sign as an undrafted free agent. Blame the teams that didn't draft him.

[gunnar hendershow]

The teams were told not to draft him because he wouldn't sign with them first and foremost. When that happens the NFL should step in to prevent an open season after the draft. That's all, it's a disadvantage to Collins who has to make less money since the draft coincided with a serious personal issue and a disadvantage to the teams who had planned on making a run at him in the draft who were suddenly told not to. I don't know how you make up the money issue (though again, he gets an extension sooner and can be a lot richer than the rest of the 2015 class) but the other issue should have been an easy, "if you don't want your guy drafted just know he can't enter the free agent pool, he goes to (supplemental or 2016) instead." But they just sat on their hands instead treating this like any other guy who went undrafted with the same circumstances as anyone else, when in reality it was far from it.

It's just something that I'm baffled they don't have a contingency plan for already, when an agent warns teams against drafting his client.

[HC]

Dante Fowler has suffered a knee injury already

[PatDaMan]

As much as I hate to say it, Maxx is 100% right. Police said the entire time that he wasn't a suspect.

He'd have been a first round pick if it wasn't for terrible timing. I just wish the Eagles would've taken a 7th round flyer on him or gotten to sign him, because our line is getting old fast, with not much to replace Peters or Mathis once their gone.

[HC]

If a team drafted him couldn't he have then just entered the next draft? I thought they denied him re-entry because he became a free agent once he went undrafted and was thus ineligible. I don't know if that's true, though.

[LL!]

Dante Fowler's NFL journey with the Jaguars is off to a rough start. The first-round pick was carted off the field Friday during Jacksonville's first rookie minicamp after tumbling to the ground during 11-on-11 drills, per multiple reports. The No. 3 overall pick was seen holding his left knee as trainers descended.

Lol Jaguars

[Dan]

[livid]

Dante Fowler's NFL journey with the Jaguars is off to a rough start. The first-round pick was carted off the field Friday during Jacksonville's first rookie minicamp after tumbling to the ground during 11-on-11 drills, per multiple reports. The No. 3 overall pick was seen holding his left knee as trainers descended.

Lol Jaguars

Now I can't get the image of the trainers parachuting in out of my head.