BBC's compilation of the top movies of the 21st century

[Colly]

AI is still dogshit though, which is the key thing to take from this list.

[MDK]

I'm quite surprised The Departed missed out

[RPS]

37 minutes ago, MDK said:

I'm quite surprised The Departed missed out

The website They Shoot Pictures Don't They (which is an aggregate site that has been running for a while) has a much larger list that has collected data for a longer period of time. The Departed was 91, so my guess is that it probably just missed out on the BBC list. The Departed probably got knocked down a few pegs for more recent movies. http://www.theyshootpictures.com/21stcentury_allfilms_table.php

[Benji]

1 hour ago, RPS said:

It is a film snob list because they asked film critics to give their lists. Film critics end up seeing a lot more films versus the average person and I think this list tends to be a lot more independent and international versus what a list from other audiences would look like. Not that independent and international is necessarily better, but it definitely will vary the list up a bit when the people have seen the movies. 

A few of the movies you listed are ranked highly on other critic aggregate websites (like They Shoot Pictures Don't They), so I assume that if the list was expanded another hundred movies, you'd see the Departed, a few LOTR, Toy Story, and Up on there. Probably not the other ones listed. 

Is it weird that I find the first PotC the worst miss from the list? Nearly everyone loves that film and it's comedy and drama is timeless.

[Benjamin]

4 hours ago, MDK said:

How the hell is Finding Nemo in there

Because some people have a heart, unlike you, sir 

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100. Requiem for a Dream (Darren Aronofsky, 2000)
96. Finding Nemo (Andrew Stanton, 2003)
95. Moonrise Kingdom (Wes Anderson, 2012)
93. Ratatouille (Brad Bird, 2007)
92. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Andrew Dominik, 2007)
88. Spotlight (Tom McCarthy, 2015)
84. Her (Spike Jonze, 2013)
81. Shame (Steve McQueen, 2011)
78. The Wolf of Wall Street (Martin Scorsese, 2013)
75. Inherent Vice (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2014)
74. Spring Breakers (Harmony Korine, 2012)
73. Before Sunset (Richard Linklater, 2004)
69. Carol (Todd Haynes, 2015)
68. The Royal Tenenbaums (Wes Anderson, 2001)
67. The Hurt Locker (Kathryn Bigelow, 2008)
64. The Great Beauty (Paolo Sorrentino, 2013)
62. Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009)
61. Under the Skin (Jonathan Glazer, 2013)
59. A History of Violence (David Cronenberg, 2005)
57. Zero Dark Thirty (Kathryn Bigelow, 2012)
55. Ida (Paweł Pawlikowski, 2013)
53. Moulin Rouge! (Baz Luhrmann, 2001)
51. Inception (Christopher Nolan, 2010)
50. The Assassin (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 2015)
48. Brooklyn (John Crowley, 2015)
45. Blue Is the Warmest Color (Abdellatif Kechiche, 2013)
44. 12 Years a Slave (Steve McQueen, 2013)
42. Amour (Michael Haneke, 2012)
41. Inside Out (Pete Docter, 2015)
36. Timbuktu (Abderrahmane Sissako, 2014)
35. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Ang Lee, 2000)
33. The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
29. WALL-E (Andrew Stanton, 2008)
27. The Social Network (David Fincher, 2010)
24. The Master (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2012)
21. The Grand Budapest Hotel (Wes Anderson, 2014)
19. Mad Max: Fury Road (George Miller, 2015)
17. Pan's Labyrinth (Guillermo Del Toro, 2006)
14. The Act of Killing (Joshua Oppenheimer, 2012)
13. Children of Men (Alfonso Cuarón, 2006)
11. Inside Llewyn Davis (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2013)
10. No Country for Old Men (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2007)
9. A Separation (Asghar Farhadi, 2011)
6. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
5. Boyhood (Richard Linklater, 2014)
4. Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001)
2. In the Mood for Love (Wong Kar-wai, 2000)

6 out of the top ten, 13 out of the top 25, 48 in total. Not bad, but there's definitely so much more on this list I would want to watch, so much I wouldn't put near my list of favorites (Spotlight, Social Network, The Assassin, The Great Beauty, Moulin Rouge!, The Wolf of Wall Street), some of them are my absolute favorites of all time (Boyhood, Before Sunset, In the Mood for Love, No Country for Old Men, A Separation, Blue is the Warmest Colour). Of course there'd be plenty else I'd include like the Toy Story films the rest of the Before Sunset trilogy, the Avengers 1 & 2, every Dardenne brothers film I've seen,  Chungking Express  Basically a lot of trilogies and stuff. It's fucking weird that none of the Dardenne films made it, to be honest. You'd think Two Days, One Night or the Kid with a Bike would make it at least.

2 hours ago, Benji said:

I've seen 19 of those, but since it has no LOTR at all, no The Departed (nor Infernal Affairs), no Gladiator, no Toy Story 3, no Up!, no Prestige (not seen but I've rarely heard bad about it), no Gone Girl, no V for Vendetta, no Donnie Darko, not a single Harry Potter, no Monsters Inc, no Catch Me If You Can, no Sin City, no Pirates of the Caribbean, and not a single Marvel film, I have no issue with seeing so little. Bit of a film snob list tbh.

It was obviously going to be a film snob list, but what's wrong with that? Finding new films that other people say are good that you might never have heard of is never a bad thing, plus these people have probably seen way more films than the average person. I don't know, I definitely feel up for watching a bunch of these I'd barely even heard of before now.

[Benji]

Nothing wrong with a snob list, just stating facts, it is a snob list so I have no issue with not having seen them because I'm not a film snob.

Oh also, I don't like the list because even though it was massively polarising, Cloud Atlas is not on it and I adored that. Ditto Life of Pi.

[RPS]

1 hour ago, Benji said:

Is it weird that I find the first PotC the worst miss from the list? Nearly everyone loves that film and it's comedy and drama is timeless.

Different strokes for different folks because I did not at all enjoy the PotC movies, but any sort of fantasy like that and I am out. It is like the Lord of the Rings movies - I legitimately stopped watching 20 minutes into the first movie because I just wasn't going to enjoy it. 

With the PotC, I think it probably would be way more fondly remembered had they just stopped at number one, but they drove that franchise into the ground in a real bad way. 

[MDK]

96. Finding Nemo (Andrew Stanton, 2003)
92. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Andrew Dominik, 2007)
90. The Pianist (Roman Polanski, 2002)
87. Amélie (Jean-Pierre Jeunet, 2001)
85. A Prophet (Jacques Audiard, 2009)
83. A.I. Artificial Intelligence (Steven Spielberg, 2001)
82. A Serious Man (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2009)
79. Almost Famous (Cameron Crowe, 2000)
78. The Wolf of Wall Street (Martin Scorsese, 2013)
76. Dogville (Lars von Trier, 2003)
75. Inherent Vice (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2014)
68. The Royal Tenenbaums (Wes Anderson, 2001)
67. The Hurt Locker (Kathryn Bigelow, 2008)
62. Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009)
59. A History of Violence (David Cronenberg, 2005)
57. Zero Dark Thirty (Kathryn Bigelow, 2012)
53. Moulin Rouge! (Baz Luhrmann, 2001)
51. Inception (Christopher Nolan, 2010)
44. 12 Years a Slave (Steve McQueen, 2013)
40. Brokeback Mountain (Ang Lee, 2005)
39. The New World (Terrence Malick, 2005)
38. City of God (Fernando Meirelles and Kátia Lund, 2002)
35. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Ang Lee, 2000)
33. The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
32. The Lives of Others (Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck, 2006)
30. Oldboy (Park Chan-wook, 2003)
29. WALL-E (Andrew Stanton, 2008)
26. 25th Hour (Spike Lee, 2002)
25. Memento (Christopher Nolan, 2000)
23. Caché (Michael Haneke, 2005)
22. Lost in Translation (Sofia Coppola, 2003)
21. The Grand Budapest Hotel (Wes Anderson, 2014)
19. Mad Max: Fury Road (George Miller, 2015)
16. Holy Motors (Leos Carax, 2012)
13. Children of Men (Alfonso Cuarón, 2006)
12. Zodiac (David Fincher, 2007)
10. No Country for Old Men (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2007)
6. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
3. There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2007)
1. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)

I have too much spare time. Also quite surprised that A Prophet was in the list, not because it was a bad film, I thought it was brilliant, just didn't think it was that big. And I know Jimmy will hate me but I have no idea how Mullholland Drive is so well liked.

10 minutes ago, RPS said:

With the PotC, I think it probably would be way more fondly remembered had they just stopped at number one, but they drove that franchise into the ground in a real bad way. 

Yup, that they did. I enjoy them but they really rinsed it out. That said, the first one was great. Perfect cinema and popcorn film.

[Benjamin]

50 minutes ago, Benji said:

Nothing wrong with a snob list, just stating facts, it is a snob list so I have no issue with not having seen them because I'm not a film snob.

Oh also, I don't like the list because even though it was massively polarising, Cloud Atlas is not on it and I adored that. Ditto Life of Pi.

Oh okay, I guess I read your earlier post the wrong way  Plus, I don't consider myself a film snob as much as a guy that just would want to watch as much as possible, because films are super fun and somehow I ended up watching almost half of the stuff on this list  

I would love to see what would be everyone's favorite films this century so far, though, because so much has changed in cinema, and in what film watchers themselves expect when they watch a film, and what kind of film they've chosen to watch.

[RPS]

@MDK, did you like The Lives Of Others? Me and my better half started it a while back thinking "ah, lets throw this one" and we were hooked by the end of it. He was super upset because it does not have the most fulfilling ending. 

@Benkid Nada, we could turn this into the de facto "Top Movies of the 21st Century" or you could make a thread for it. I obviously love talking movies and I'll talk for days about my favorite movies. 

[MDK]

2 minutes ago, RPS said:

@MDK, did you like The Lives Of Others? Me and my better half started it a while back thinking "ah, lets throw this one" and we were hooked by the end of it. He was super upset because it does not have the most fulfilling ending. 

I can't remember it to be honest, its on my rewatch list.

[DFF]

96. Finding Nemo (Andrew Stanton, 2003)
95. Moonrise Kingdom (Wes Anderson, 2012)
94. Let the Right One In (Tomas Alfredson, 2008)
88. Spotlight (Tom McCarthy, 2015)
84. Her (Spike Jonze, 2013)
82. A Serious Man (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2009)
81. Shame (Steve McQueen, 2011)
78. The Wolf of Wall Street (Martin Scorsese, 2013)
75. Inherent Vice (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2014)
73. Before Sunset (Richard Linklater, 2004)
72. Only Lovers Left Alive (Jim Jarmusch, 2013)
62. Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009)
61. Under the Skin (Jonathan Glazer, 2013)
57. Zero Dark Thirty (Kathryn Bigelow, 2012)
53. Moulin Rouge! (Baz Luhrmann, 2001)
51. Inception (Christopher Nolan, 2010)
45. Blue Is the Warmest Color (Abdellatif Kechiche, 2013)
44. 12 Years a Slave (Steve McQueen, 2013)
41. Inside Out (Pete Docter, 2015)
36. Timbuktu (Abderrahmane Sissako, 2014)
35. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Ang Lee, 2000)
33. The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
30. Oldboy (Park Chan-wook, 2003)
27. The Social Network (David Fincher, 2010)
25. Memento (Christopher Nolan, 2000)
24. The Master (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2012)
22. Lost in Translation (Sofia Coppola, 2003)
21. The Grand Budapest Hotel (Wes Anderson, 2014)
20. Synecdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman, 2008)
19. Mad Max: Fury Road (George Miller, 2015)
17. Pan's Labyrinth (Guillermo Del Toro, 2006)
13. Children of Men (Alfonso Cuarón, 2006)
12. Zodiac (David Fincher, 2007)
11. Inside Llewyn Davis (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2013)
10. No Country for Old Men (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2007)
6. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
5. Boyhood (Richard Linklater, 2014)
4. Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001)
3. There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2007)
 

That's, what, 39ish? Some crackers in there, but some odd choices too. The Social Network was simply a 'good' film (like, maybe a 4/5) - it shouldn't be on a Top 100 anything really. 

[Benjamin]

@RPS I'd guess a brand new topic for it would be better, though I would just want to turn it into a voting thing and make a list by the end of it, because EWB lists are the most fun things ever. People's choices on here would probably be a lot more broad than a bunch of film critics, though, so that'd probably be a disaster.

I actually am super interested in if you and your partner can actually manage all 100 films together. There's no way I'd be able to do that with my girlfriend, though I think I've probably seen a few of these together with her.

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96. Finding Nemo (Andrew Stanton, 2003)
93. Ratatouille (Brad Bird, 2007)
84. Her (Spike Jonze, 2013)
78. The Wolf of Wall Street (Martin Scorsese, 2013)
73. Before Sunset (Richard Linklater, 2004)
51. Inception (Christopher Nolan, 2010)
44. 12 Years a Slave (Steve McQueen, 2013)
41. Inside Out (Pete Docter, 2015)
33. The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
29. WALL-E (Andrew Stanton, 2008)
27. The Social Network (David Fincher, 2010)
9. A Separation (Asghar Farhadi, 2011)
5. Boyhood (Richard Linklater, 2014)
4. Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001)

I've so far seen all these together with her, and was planning on watching Amour with her on her birthday during romantic supper / sexy time last week (don't ask me why I chose this, thank god we ended up watching something else instead). We have such different tastes in what we like to watch, but I remember several of these vividly. We both cried like mad during A Separation, and she hated the ending because it left her wanting to know what happened after that. She hated the Dark Knight and found it dorky, which turned into a huge fight predictably. I got really mad at how much she disliked Before Sunset and called it boring and started playing with me and stuff instead of watching the film, because she was able to watch Before Sunrise by herself and said it was one of the best films ever. She found Inside Out mediocre, which killed me a little. She loved Spirited Away as much as I did, and she loved Wolf of Wall Street as much as I hated it. I would have no idea how to watch the rest on this list with her, some of them really would not be to her liking at all, especially if I was right next to her.

[RPS]

If we did the bulk of the list that we haven't seen together (probably like 80 movies), it would definitely take a year or so. No way can I watch 2-3 movies a week. 

[Benji]

33 minutes ago, Benkid Nada said:

Oh okay, I guess I read your earlier post the wrong way  Plus, I don't consider myself a film snob as much as a guy that just would want to watch as much as possible, because films are super fun and somehow I ended up watching almost half of the stuff on this list

Yeah, probably bad phrasing on my part, snob was just the word that came to mind and I didn't really think of the obvious negative connotations. Probably should have just gone with critics in retrospect, since that's who actually voted for it

[Gorka]

96. Finding Nemo (Andrew Stanton, 2003)
95. Moonrise Kingdom (Wes Anderson, 2012)
94. Let the Right One In (Tomas Alfredson, 2008)
93. Ratatouille (Brad Bird, 2007)
82. A Serious Man (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2009)
78. The Wolf of Wall Street (Martin Scorsese, 2013)
67. The Hurt Locker (Kathryn Bigelow, 2008)
62. Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009)
33. The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
29. WALL-E (Andrew Stanton, 2008)
21. The Grand Budapest Hotel (Wes Anderson, 2014)
17. Pan's Labyrinth (Guillermo Del Toro, 2006)
14. The Act of Killing (Joshua Oppenheimer, 2012)
13. Children of Men (Alfonso Cuarón, 2006)
10. No Country for Old Men (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2007)
4. Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001)

There's too many films that I have wanted to watch but never got around to seeing. Bit surprised that Moon didn't make the list. The Act of Killing is probably the best film that I've seen on there. The Wolf of Wall Street the worst.

[Kyle]

96. Finding Nemo (Andrew Stanton, 2003)
94. Let the Right One In (Tomas Alfredson, 2008)
93. Ratatouille (Brad Bird, 2007)
77. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (Julian Schnabel, 2007)
67. The Hurt Locker (Kathryn Bigelow, 2008)
41. Inside Out (Pete Docter, 2015)
38. City of God (Fernando Meirelles and Kátia Lund, 2002)
33. The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
 

I feel like there's a reason I didn't do great in my Film Studies A-Level.  

[9 to 5]

2 hours ago, MDK said:

96. Finding Nemo (Andrew Stanton, 2003)
92. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Andrew Dominik, 2007)
90. The Pianist (Roman Polanski, 2002)
87. Amélie (Jean-Pierre Jeunet, 2001)
85. A Prophet (Jacques Audiard, 2009)
83. A.I. Artificial Intelligence (Steven Spielberg, 2001)
82. A Serious Man (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2009)
79. Almost Famous (Cameron Crowe, 2000)
78. The Wolf of Wall Street (Martin Scorsese, 2013)
76. Dogville (Lars von Trier, 2003)
75. Inherent Vice (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2014)
68. The Royal Tenenbaums (Wes Anderson, 2001)
67. The Hurt Locker (Kathryn Bigelow, 2008)
62. Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009)
59. A History of Violence (David Cronenberg, 2005)
57. Zero Dark Thirty (Kathryn Bigelow, 2012)
53. Moulin Rouge! (Baz Luhrmann, 2001)
51. Inception (Christopher Nolan, 2010)
44. 12 Years a Slave (Steve McQueen, 2013)
40. Brokeback Mountain (Ang Lee, 2005)
39. The New World (Terrence Malick, 2005)
38. City of God (Fernando Meirelles and Kátia Lund, 2002)
35. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Ang Lee, 2000)
33. The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
32. The Lives of Others (Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck, 2006)
30. Oldboy (Park Chan-wook, 2003)
29. WALL-E (Andrew Stanton, 2008)
26. 25th Hour (Spike Lee, 2002)
25. Memento (Christopher Nolan, 2000)
23. Caché (Michael Haneke, 2005)
22. Lost in Translation (Sofia Coppola, 2003)
21. The Grand Budapest Hotel (Wes Anderson, 2014)
19. Mad Max: Fury Road (George Miller, 2015)
16. Holy Motors (Leos Carax, 2012)
13. Children of Men (Alfonso Cuarón, 2006)
12. Zodiac (David Fincher, 2007)
10. No Country for Old Men (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2007)
6. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
3. There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2007)
1. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)

I have too much spare time. Also quite surprised that A Prophet was in the list, not because it was a bad film, I thought it was brilliant, just didn't think it was that big. And I know Jimmy will hate me but I have no idea how Mullholland Drive is so well liked.

Yup, that they did. I enjoy them but they really rinsed it out. That said, the first one was great. Perfect cinema and popcorn film.

Yeah, but what does @Jimmy know about films?

[MDK]

Just now, 9 to 5 said:

Yeah, but what does @Jimmy know about films?

Clearly nothing because he doesn't rate "Orient: Club for a Fiver"

[Monkey D. Lars]

I've seen more JCVD films than films on that list. I should stop watching b movies.