2017 NFL Season Thread

[Pooker]

I still say that if the Broncos had let Tebow learn under Manning for two/three years, he would be a great QB right now.

[Meacon Keaton]

And I say you damn crazy. 

[Your Mom]

37 minutes ago, Pooker said:

I still say that if the Broncos had let Tebow learn under Manning for two/three years, he would be a great QB right now.

This is confusing to me. Tim Tebow is already great

[Lineker]

I would say that we should just throw all of our draft picks at the O line next year, only to remember that we gave all of our picks to fucking Cleveland...

[Pooker]

1 hour ago, Meacon said:

And I say you damn crazy. 

Maybe. But would it have hurt them? Nope. Tebow was already a half decent QB. Why not let him learn behind Manning for a few seasons and see what he really could have turned into?

[Meacon Keaton]

You can sit and study film and learn a playbook for a decade, but if you're incapable of throwing a simple down and out, which he was, you're never going to be a great NFL quarterback. He wasn't even a half-decent quarterback. I watched him every week. We won, because we had one of the best defenses of the last twenty years, and asked Tebow to do very, very little with the offense. But once the defense started getting exhausted from being on the field so much (due to the offense's nearly constant three-and-outs) we needed him to throw to win games, and it almost never happened. "He" won us the game against Pittsburgh when DeMaryius Thomas broke off that huge touchdown, but other than that, he couldn't step up and make the big throws that professional quarterbacks have to make. 

I don't have anything against the guy. He's passionate and has a lot of heart. I appreciated his time with the organization. But he was never going to be a lot better than what he already was, and that was a below-average NFL quarterback. If he couldn't show enough improvement and development to the guys running the show, that saw him working on things in practice every day, then I feel confident in saying that. 

[RoHitman Reigns]

Texans lose LB Brian Cushing for 10 games after second PEDs violation

[Lineker]

The start to the season which just keeps on giving. 

[Maxx]

18 hours ago, Meacon said:

You can sit and study film and learn a playbook for a decade, but if you're incapable of throwing a simple down and out, which he was, you're never going to be a great NFL quarterback. He wasn't even a half-decent quarterback. I watched him every week. We won, because we had one of the best defenses of the last twenty years, and asked Tebow to do very, very little with the offense. But once the defense started getting exhausted from being on the field so much (due to the offense's nearly constant three-and-outs) we needed him to throw to win games, and it almost never happened. "He" won us the game against Pittsburgh when DeMaryius Thomas broke off that huge touchdown, but other than that, he couldn't step up and make the big throws that professional quarterbacks have to make. 

I don't have anything against the guy. He's passionate and has a lot of heart. I appreciated his time with the organization. But he was never going to be a lot better than what he already was, and that was a below-average NFL quarterback. If he couldn't show enough improvement and development to the guys running the show, that saw him working on things in practice every day, then I feel confident in saying that. 

Belichick and Chip Kelly couldn't find ways to make him work, there wasn't much hope for him.  I will say his career was kind of unfairly derailed by the trade to the Jets, who clearly had no intention of ever really playing him.  I think he still would have washed out eventually, but he did get pretty screwed over.

[The Buscher]

Tom Savage - Top 15 QB

And this is why I immediately stop listening to anybody who attempts to use PFF as justification for why one player is better than another.

[Maxx]

I don' t need some website rankings to tell me how good Tom Savage is, I can just watch the tape

Check out this athleticism!
 

 

 

[DFF]

There's some rumblings that the Texans might give Gary Barnidge a go. Tbh, they could do a lot worse at TE.

[livid]

12 minutes ago, Maxx said:

I don' t need some website rankings to tell me how good Tom Savage is, I can just watch the tape

Check out this athleticism!
 

 

 

Say what you will about the drop back but that is a bullet. 

[Lineker]

Leave Tom Savage alone you meanies!

[punky]

1 hour ago, livid said:

Say what you will about the drop back but that is a bullet. 

I bet he crushes the milk bottle game at the local state fair.

 

EDIT: Apparently the NFL is "concerned" about the lack of attendance for LA games. As if this wasn't the same issue that they had before.

Edited September 14, 2017 by punky

[DMN in the House]

If they were so concerned they would have made sure the Raiders came here.

[Maxx]

Why move a team that's popular in the area when you can move a team that's been incredibly boring for the past decade and is barely relevant?  Or a team that literally no one wants there?  THESE ARE CLEARLY BETTER OPTIONS 

The Rams have a chance to attract fans, but they're going to have to prove that they can actually turn things around.  I can't blame people for not coming out to the season opener after the way they played last year.

[The Buscher]

Beckham returned to practice today.  But he disclosed that doctors advised him it'd be a 6-8 week recovery time for the sprain.  It's barely been 3 weeks.  I was all for sitting Beckham week 1 when it seemed like he'd be back in a week, but now that there are 3-5 more weeks before he'll be totally healed - it's a much tougher call.  It sounds like Beckham wants to play and take the risk, and at this point I don't know that the Giants can afford to wait.

With a fully healthy Beckham last year the Giants scored 20 points or less in 11 of 17 games including their last 6.  So I'd love to say the Giants would be best served just waiting it out.

The problem is Eli is now Captain Checkdown and doesn't even attempt to throw downfield anymore, even when he is afford time in the pocket.  I watched All-22 and saw Brandon Marshall and Roger Lewis wide open at times and Eli simply dumped it 3 yards to Shane Vereen and Evan Engram.  The only guy on the team capable of doing anything with those short passes is Beckham.  And I'm pretty sure Ben McAdoo is too stubborn to change the offense into a vertical passing game a week into the season, so I simply don't know that there's a way for them to work this offense without Beckham.  Waiting until week 5 to suit him up may be too late.
 

[Your Mom]

These are 2 very very bad teams playing right now

[Your Mom]

Does Houston actually not have a TE? I think they said that