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On 20/07/2018 at 14:41, Adam es Tranquilo said:

Difference is he put that money in to save his local club from financial ruin and hasn't bankrolled them up the leagues since. They operate pretty modestly and hugely overachieved by winning promotion from League Two last season. They will still have one of the smallest budgets in League One this season regardless of Holt's personal wealth because he runs the club in a way where it can be sustainable whether he's there or not, which is the same thing Doncaster's very wealthy ownership team do and I wouldn't have it any other way because I have faith that when they leave, my club will still be able to function. If the Class of 92/Peter Lim got bored of their little Salford side project next week, that club that has existed for decades will be in big, big trouble.

The irony of Gary Neville trying to claim the owner of Accrington Stanley wants franchised football. Until ten years ago Salford had never ventured further than the North West Counties League, played in orange & black and bore no resemblance to the Man Utd tribute act they now are. I'm all for well off people helping their local clubs to survive and compete* but now they've got close to the promised land of the Football League they are chucking ridiculous amounts of money at it and I don't disagree with Andy Holt at all.

They are outspending the majority of the Scottish Premier League and buying players from League One clubs paying them more money in the process. That is not sustainable or fair to the competition, he waffled on to that Select Committee the other day about grassroots football but his actions at Salford belie that attitude. How will clubs like Bromley, Boreham Wood and Solihull feel rocking up to Salford for a league game this season and feeling like they may as well not bother because their opponents are playing with resources worth the rest of the division combined?

 

*Not to mention the Class of 92 have just picked the club nearest to Man Utd that had basically the least amount of history and structure with which to craft their vanity project. The Nevilles are lifelong Bury fans, Scholes the same with Oldham and Peter Lim as far as I can tell is just one of Gary's mates who happens to have billions in the bank.

Northern Premier League First Division North 😛

They went up one in 2004 when the Conference was re-structured.

You could say the same about Man City, Chelsea, Wolves and quite a few clubs in the Premier League and I'm sure there's a few in the Football League too that are bank rolled. The difference at Salford, they're not just investing millions into the playing squad. They've re-built the stadium pretty much from scratch, they spent a huge amount on the Academy '92, started multiple under age teams and I believe they're planning a women's team. Basically, they've spent their own money getting more local kids playing football but want the senior club at a decent level to give these kids something real to strive for. A lot of that determination for the kids would go if they were still playing in the 8th tier and if not and had the potential, they'd be snapped up by someone else.

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Ten years ago, in 2008, they were promoted from the North West Counties league for the first time, not sure where you're looking but they played in that league since it's inception in the early 80s and never got any higher until promotion in 2008.

My point stands regardless, they were a nothing club who nobody has ever heard of, and I certainly include the "Class of 92" in that.

It's good they're building an entire club up, benefitting the community etc. I'm not saying they're some evil organisation hell-bent on world domination, I'm pointing out the very obvious fact that they are buying their way into the Football League by operating on a playing field far above that of their 23 opponents in the division.

It goes against the principal notion of sport which is fair competition in my opinion. And the sheer hypocrisy of Neville labelling Accrington's owner someone who wants franchised football is laughable beyond belief because what he and his rich mates have done at Salford is exactly what a franchise club is: take an existing outfit with decades of history and change every single thing about it with money to suit your own ends. Kit colour, ground, identity etc. etc.

I've said all I want to say on this already. I don't agree at all with what Wolves are doing either and despise the way clubs like Chelsea and Man City bought their places at the top table. I loathe the way football has become thanks to clubs like this and that goes from the very top with Chelsea and City down through the leagues taking in Salford, Billericay, Whitehawk and numerous others.

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2 hours ago, Adam es Tranquilo said:

It's good they're building an entire club up, benefitting the community etc. I'm not saying they're some evil organisation hell-bent on world domination, I'm pointing out the very obvious fact that they are buying their way into the Football League by operating on a playing field far above that of their 23 opponents in the division.

 

Ahem.

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19 hours ago, Adam es Tranquilo said:

Ten years ago, in 2008, they were promoted from the North West Counties league for the first time, not sure where you're looking but they played in that league since it's inception in the early 80s and never got any higher until promotion in 2008.

My point stands regardless, they were a nothing club who nobody has ever heard of, and I certainly include the "Class of 92" in that.

It's good they're building an entire club up, benefitting the community etc. I'm not saying they're some evil organisation hell-bent on world domination, I'm pointing out the very obvious fact that they are buying their way into the Football League by operating on a playing field far above that of their 23 opponents in the division.

It goes against the principal notion of sport which is fair competition in my opinion. And the sheer hypocrisy of Neville labelling Accrington's owner someone who wants franchised football is laughable beyond belief because what he and his rich mates have done at Salford is exactly what a franchise club is: take an existing outfit with decades of history and change every single thing about it with money to suit your own ends. Kit colour, ground, identity etc. etc.

I've said all I want to say on this already. I don't agree at all with what Wolves are doing either and despise the way clubs like Chelsea and Man City bought their places at the top table. I loathe the way football has become thanks to clubs like this and that goes from the very top with Chelsea and City down through the leagues taking in Salford, Billericay, Whitehawk and numerous others.

This time 10 years ago, they were between seasons of their last in the NW Counties and the Northern Premier so we're both right!

I fully understand your point. From a personal perspective, I do prefer how they were before, simply because before they did the ground up, I enjoyed sitting on the grass banking watching the match, but that's gone now in favour of the bog standard rectangle stadium! I'll also never forget the season when they were bottom of the Northern Premier First Division with 10 games left and on 4 points, then went on to win 9 of the last 10 and stayed up on the last day under Rhodri Giggs (of all people!).

I'll always back them because I remember when I used to be jealous of places like Bury, Oldham, Rochdale and at that time, Altringham, Hyde and Droylsden having Football League or top to near top level non-League clubs in Manchester but my area didn't so it's great to have that now and a proper alternative local to Man Utd and City.

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I'm at work and this is on tele :(

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Unbeaten this season! We are the invincibles!

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4 minutes ago, MDK said:

Unbeaten this season! We are the invincibles!

No, us!

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Just now, 9 to 5 said:

No, us!

We are all invincible on this blessed day!

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A London non-league football club’s away kit has become a surprise hit in Spain, because of the anti-fascist message embroidered into it. Clapton Community FC have taken more than 5,400 pre-orders for their shirts, after pictures of the kit gained media attention on the continent.

The red, purple and yellow shirt was worn for the first time last Saturday, and the colour scheme is inspired by the International Brigades who fought in the Spanish civil war. The back of the shirt features the slogan “no pasarán”, meaning “they shall not pass”, which was used by anti-fascist fighters in the 1930s. It also features the three-pointed star of the International Brigades, and was released to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the end of the conflict.

The shirt design was chosen after members voted from a selection of 16 kits, and the designer, writing on the Clapton CFC website, said: “I really wanted to make something that marked the importance of the sacrifice of those who fought against fascism.”

The club said they only expected to sell about 250 shirts this season. The kit is manufactured by the Italian firm Rage Sports, chosen specifically by the club because it is a small, ethical manufacturer that sources its materials from companies that agree to pay workers fairly. Rage Sports produces kits for grassroots football clubs that are specifically involved in fighting racism, fascism and inequality.

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Maurizio Affuso, who works for Rage, is  as saying: “Rage Sport will always be there for the Clapton fans because like them we believe in a new way of doing football and because we strongly believe some battles can be fought both on and off the pitch.”

The unprecedented interest is not without its drawbacks. Volunteers have been working all week to handle orders and respond to a multitude of messages sent to the club via social media and email, and on Thursday the team announced they had paused new orders for the shirt “while we and our supplier catch up with the sudden huge number of orders”.

The national secretary of the International Brigade Memorial Trust, Jim Jump, said: “We’re delighted that the shirt highlights the sacrifice made by those who joined the International Brigades, and we are excited that some of the income from the shirts will enable us to work with Clapton CFC on education and memorial initiatives here in the UK.”

The club said they would use some of the money to help with running costs, but were earmarking funds to be donated to the memorial trust, which helps to preserve the memory of those who travelled to Spain to fight in the war.

Clapton CFC have only existed since February, when they were set up in response to a dispute between fans and owners of Clapton FC.

The Clapton Ultras – as their enthusiastic and political supporters had come to be known – boycotted home games at the club’s historic Old Spotted Dog Ground for the whole of the 2017-18 season, after the chief executive attempted to liquidate the charity running the club, who had been playing at the ground since 1888.

Clapton CFC will compete in the Middlesex Counties football league, and are temporarily based in Walthamstow, east London. They said they hoped to fulfil all the shirt orders within two months, and asked purchasers to “please be patient with us because no one could have expected this level of demand”.

The designer, Thom, added on the website: “We have always been known as fans who do not accept racism, sexism and homophobia, so it made total sense. We didn’t expect our tiny club to be noticed by Spanish football fans but we’re delighted nonetheless.”

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3-1 against Barnet! Undefeated! Rockin' all over the world!

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And 3-0 against previously undefeated Harrowgate! Easy stuff.

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Its Non-League day this weekend so your local club might be selling tickets on the cheap.

You might miss out on stuff like this:

 

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DO DO DO DO! JOSH KOROMA!

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What a goal that is. He played one game for Donny Rovers so that'll be where he's learned that...:shifty:

Seriously though, keeping an eye on Harrogate's results as they've knocked on the door of the National League for a few years and it's nice to see them carrying that momentum on.

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1 hour ago, Adam es Tranquilo said:

Seriously though, keeping an eye on Harrogate's results as they've knocked on the door of the National League for a few years and it's nice to see them carrying that momentum on. 

I hope they enjoy going up through the playoffs (H)

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National League side Boreham Wood have called on MPs to vote down Theresa May’s Brexit deal and immediately begin working “night and day” towards a better one in what must be the most extraordinary and unexpected intervention in the history of Great Britain’s relationship with the European Union.

Just hours before the House of Commons is expected to hand the prime minister a crushing defeat in the “meaningful vote” on her long-standing deal to exit the EU, a statement appeared on Boreham Wood’s official website entitled “MPs Do Your Duty”. Running to over 1,450 words and signed by no one in particular, it reads like the type of call-to-arms that Neil Warnock would absolutely love.

Boreham Wood, who sit 13th in the National League following a 4-4 draw with Dagenham and Redbridge earlier this month, are staunch in their collective belief that now is the time for the bitter in-fighting at Westminster to stop and for MPs on both sides to unite behind the common good - namely standing up for Britain against supposed bullying from Brussels and getting the country the Brexit deal it deserves. And if that means a no deal, then so be it. Indeed, such is Boreham Wood’s belief in “taking back control” that a club who have won the Herts Senior Cup on no less than six occasions are willing to evoke the spirit of Winston Churchill and label David Cameron a coward.

“We believe, as Mrs May to her credit does, that Brexit must mean Brexit and we remind the intellectuals out there, that doesn’t make us all stupid, nationalistic, fascist, ignorant, or all of those things,” said Boreham Wood. “It does mean that we might believe, that we can take whatever obstacles, red tape and barriers that Europe wishes to throw at us and overcome. So we implore our MP’s [sic], please do your job – vote down this deal and please stop scaremongering us all about a NO DEAL.”

“NO DEAL” is capped up more than once in Boreham Wood’s statement, showing just how much they are happy to accept an outcome which many experts have said would be disastrous for the country’s economy. Thankfully the club who face Havant & Waterlooville at home on Saturday have a plan should a no deal-Brexit indeed come to pass - accepting the “World Trading Agreement” and generally being proud of Britain and British things.

“Let’s promote our big businesses, let’s promote our technology, promote and incentivise our small businesses and entrepreneur,” added the statement. “Let’s rebuild our economy, let’s incentivise foreign business and film investment with tax breaks, let’s invest in our overburdened health service, in our under invested education sector and let’s once again secure our borders and promote British products.

“We must not let the failing Euro super powers bully us – sorry Germany and Mrs Merkel, sorry President Macron and the French franchise. We’ll leave you guys to get on with solving your own problems with the growing and repulsive far right and the destructive left wing yellow vests. It’s now time for Europe to let our Great British democracy sail off and if we fail, then we fail.”

Failure is something Boreham Wood are used to given they have won just nine of their 29 National League fixtures this season and were also knocked out of the FA Trophy following a second-round loss to Blyth Spartans last weekend. But that has not stopped the club from being bolshy on Brexit, and as well criticising Cameron for leaving this country in a “mess” after the 2016 refrendum result, ‘The Wood’ have also hit out at another former British prime minister for supposedly not being up to the job.

“Don’t be another Neville Chamberlain with ‘I’ve secured peace in your time’,” roars the Boreham Wood statement. “Be prepared to show steel, be prepared to fail, and be prepared to say no and back your initial instinct.

“It’s now time for MP’s to do their jobs and do their duty and firstly vote NO. Then they must get ready to unite the whole of the UK by working night and day on a new Brexit deal, or be prepared to walk away with a NO DEAL in July.”

Strong words from a club whose biggest rivals - the EU aside - are St Albans City.

Bloody Borehamwood. Elstree castoffs.

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Ahahahaha

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Liquid football from the O's for the winner.

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