Premier League 2020/21

[METALMAN]

1 hour ago, Matt said:

It's probably the 9 sides who have been in the top division the longest since they weren't in the top division.

 

Hope that clears things up

I'm not going to let you guys make this the new old old wooden ship from the civil war.

[Colly]

So what is it?

[Naitch]

Evidently a real Paige Turner.

[GA!]

Ian Holloway is very much against the idea (no idea if he shares the view of Grimsby's board). Good for him. Grimsby will never have the chance to play in the Premier League - geography alone means they could never attract the talent - so they would be well within their rights to take the money and lick boot.

I'm a football fan in general though. I follow the Premier League but I don't have a team I support. As a neutral, I don't want to see the league weighed even more in favour of six teams owned by foreign billionaires who see their clubs as nothing more than the trophy project in their business portfolios.

 

10 hours ago, damsher hatfield said:

I believe West Ham and Southampton were allowed to piggyback on with the rest because they've got the longest current tenures beyond the big 6+1.

Aston Villa and Newcastle have had more seasons in the Premier League than Man City. Funny that.

 

[lanky316]

1 hour ago, GA! said:

Ian Holloway is very much against the idea

 

Has he blamed the EU for trying to force it through yet?

[FestiveJack]

Ian Holloway can get to fuck, even if he does oppose the changes. Criticises those making the proposals as greedy yet jumped ship from Plymouth for more money a month after saying he wouldn't.

[Colly]

This is getting utterly ridiculous. So now it's my fault when a League 2 side goes bust because am I fuck paying £15 on top of Sky, BT and my fucking season ticket to watch Newcastle at home. How does that even make sense anyway, "Project big picture" was never a Premier League concept or so we've been told.

 

[Baddar]

Sounds to me like they realise there aren't as many people keen on the PPV idea as they'd anticipated, so won't make "enough" themselves to even think about sending money down the pyramid.

[Colly]

Just in case anyone was actually planning on buying it, do this instead and don't be a cunt.

 

[Baddar]

It's very rare that I don't watch a Man Utd game, even pre-Covid, but they can fuck off if they think I'm paying 15 quid for a Bryan Longstaff masterclass.

[DavidMarrio]

Can't wait to go back to "alternative means" to watch the football

[gunnar hendershow]

All 20 clubs have rejected the proposals. Even the ones who proposed it in the first place.

[Matt]

Thing is I wouldn't object to all non televised matches being PPV if fans were allowed in stadiums. Post covid I'd be fine with it, it lets more people watch their teams. But the fact that it's the only (legal) way makes it shitty, why do West Brom fans have to pay extra for 30 games and Liverpool fans have to pay for 6 when neither have the alternative of going to the game.

[Baddar]

Based on 30 games, West Brom fans would pay £450, compared to a team on PPV 6 times costing £90.

But, those absolutely ok with this (Eni Aluko, Miles Jacobson, other rich tories etc) will just tell you that these are optional and wouldn't be shown on TV normally.

[Matt]

3 hours ago, Baddar said:

Based on 30 games, West Brom fans would pay £450, compared to a team on PPV 6 times costing £90.

But, those absolutely ok with this (Eni Aluko, Miles Jacobson, other rich tories etc) will just tell you that these are optional and wouldn't be shown on TV normally.

Yeah which is absolutely fine, except the whole point of "lets show every game on TV" was because fans can't go to the stadium and watch. 

 

I guess what we've really learnt from this is that Crystal Palace vs Southampton doesn't attract enough brass for Sky through advertising alone so they need to fleece those clubs' fans

[GA!]

Saying that, though, you know if the model worked then it'd be the top games like Liverpool vs Man City that are put on Box Office.

[lanky316]

I'd expect little else, they can market it now as doing fans a favour while you can't get to games but as things return to normal, if the experiment were to work, they would certainly change that system and say "if people watch "lesser" fixtures at £15 a pop, they'll definitely pay for "must see" matches now that idea's out there"

[DavidMarrio]

Back in the day wasn't it Premier League Plus the PPV model they tried around the start of the 2000s and they were asking for like 5 quid a pop for a game or you could pay for a "season ticket"? 

15 quid on top of already paying for sports packages is a lot of money. Especially when as pointed out the big teams are on TV more. 

[Baddar]

IIRC, PremPlus games were £7.99 each. No idea what the season ticket cost.

And they were either Saturday teatime/Sunday afternoon games that we now get as part of a Sky/BT subscription.

[King Ellis]

Yeah, I remember we had that 'season ticket' because we didn't have Sky Sports so it was just a way to watch some games without getting the full subscription. I wanna say that was due to the fallout of Setanta Sports going bust so all the games they had rights to were in limbo so the league just put them out via PPV instead? Massive citation needed on that.