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.... Ok. To be fair, I am lucky if I play more than three hours a week.

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4 minutes ago, Subject Delta said:

I've been wanting to play for a while but I feel intimidated and don't know what things to get.

It is very intimidating, and that's coming from a guy who has played countless Final Fantasies, and played World of Warcraft every day for the last four years. However, there are countless resources out there to get caught up on and when it comes to MMO's, it's all about what your goals are.

For me, when I started playing FF, I wanted to be one of the best. In reality, I'm 37 years old and I don't have the time that it would take to be one of the best against 18-20 year olds who have better reflexes, and more time to play it than I do.

So I went into FF with a whole different attitude. While I still want to do end game content eventually, I'm taking it slower. I'm enjoying the story. I'm collecting things here and there. 

There are tons of things to grind if that's what you want to do, and it can be a fun experience especially if you're playing with friends and such.

I watch streams of FF people and honestly, I don't understand half of what they're talking about. I went into my first dungeon as a tank....and couldn't figure out how to put myself into tank stance. Had no fucking clue it even existed because in WoW, it's just always there. We got through the dungeon and NOBODY yelled at me for being an idiot. I read up on what the hell I did wrong. And now I know for next time.

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Just now, Subject Delta said:

I would probably aim for PlayStation trophies and want to be a dragoon if that helps? 😅

I don't really know what the Playstation Trophies are but Dragoon's are fun. I'm playing as a Paladin tank right now by my ultimate goal is to play as a Gunbreaker and possibly a Machinist for DPS.

Are you NA or EU?

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4 hours ago, Subject Delta said:

I would probably aim for PlayStation trophies and want to be a dragoon if that helps? 😅

https://psnprofiles.com/guide/2429-final-fantasy-xiv-a-realm-reborn-trophy-guide

 

The trophies look like an awful grind. And Dragoon is a fun class from what I heard. My best friend mains the class, and the armor is top notch.

4 hours ago, Forky said:

I don't really know what the Playstation Trophies are but Dragoon's are fun. I'm playing as a Paladin tank right now by my ultimate goal is to play as a Gunbreaker and possibly a Machinist for DPS.

Are you NA or EU?

I wanted to tank, but got tank anxiety. I much preferred healing. DPS was a good 'chill out and kill things' role. I did Machinist for a bit, and it was enjoyable, but my main DPS was Dancer, since it provided buffs to people. I just like supporting people. 

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3 minutes ago, Ruki Returns said:

I wanted to tank, but got tank anxiety. I much preferred healing. DPS was a good 'chill out and kill things' role. I did Machinist for a bit, and it was enjoyable, but my main DPS was Dancer, since it provided buffs to people. I just like supporting people. 

Tank anxiety is definitely an issue that I have which is one of the things that stopped me doing much in WoW. I wanted to tank but I just couldn't seem to work up the nerve to do it. I'm not sure how much different it will be here, but I'm hoping the difference in the community will help me get passed that. In WoW it would be nothing for some random to fill your chat with expletives over a small mistake whereas I don't seem to see that being part of the FF community which is good.

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So basically the announcement wasn't much.

-New Healer which from my research has been requested for awhile. It's a Sage which uses Ether imbued weapons to create barriers to protect your party and to attack the enemy. FF has two different types of healers right now. They have Barrier Healers and Pure Healers. Currently the astrologian is a combination and their plan with this is to change the astrologian into more of a pure healer to balance out the healers. I don't play healer but it looks pretty cool and the animations are smexy.

-The current story that started in A Realm Reborn will end in 6.0 which is the first patch of the next expansion. Patch 6.1 which is about 4 to 5 months into the next expansion will begin a completely new story. I'm intrigued by this. I don't have a lot of experience with MMO's but I know with WoW, the story has been going on for 10 expansions and they basically tread water through the expansions, revealing very little story in each patch. It's one of the things that I noticed about FF, and maybe it's only because I'm so far behind but their story just has more meat to it. (I do like WoW's Shadowlands story so far, but I won't be playing it from here so I'll have to keep up by reading.)

There will be a farming simulator type thing in the same vein as Harvest Moon added in the next expansion. You can farm, raise animals, live off the land. It kind of feels like a nice addition to the housing system that's already in place and is capturing some of the hype of Harvest Moon & Animal Crossing.

They are creating a data center travel center to allow you to move Data Centers to play with your friends. They do mention restrictions so we'll see where that is but again, coming from WoW where they try to squeeze every last cent out of you it's amazing to me that they would allow it for free at all so I'm okay with the restrictions providing they aren't super toxic.

There will be one other new job that will be revealed later in the summer. It will be a melee DPS and Yoshida has confirmed that it WILL NOT BE a Sumo Wrestler, which apparently was a lot of people's guesses.

I clicked out when they started talking about the story because I'm so far behind that I didn't want to be spoiled on the story. FF is all about the story and (unlike WoW....a lot of comparisons here I know) you can still play the complete full story without any parts missing.

Yoshida also says he's not leaving the project and if he has any say, he will be there until he can no longer do it. 

 

SAGE REVEAL:

 

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I got a second hand copy of FF7R the other day.

It'll be the first FF title I'll be playing seriously since 4. And the first I've played at all since 13. I've seen bits of 15 too.

I also know that Remake diverges from the original.

Anyways, anyone got some non spoiler tips for me going into this. Stuff to watch out for, things I shouldn't invest xp in or whatever?

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New patch released today which I believe is the last full patch before the new expansion for FFXIV. Introducing Diamond Weapon Trial and man this boss looks hella hard but hella fun as well. You have to teleport between platforms to avoid attacks, but the teleporters have a cool down which means you've got to be very coordinated when you do it.

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27 minutes ago, Ruki Returns said:

One day I'll get back into playing 14! I wanna finish the last two dlc. 

Yes! Come do content with me! I'm only lvl 34 right now!

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I just started playing FF14 myself (PC and NA) after coming over from my first dive into an MMO with ESO on PS4 and while I'm finding FF14 a little more difficult to wrap my head around all the bells and whistles it's definitely seems to be extremely user friendly. 

This being my first PC game I'm definitely struggling with the keyboard instead of the mouse when it comes to fighting but other than that I'm starting to get the hang out it. I was a tank on ESO and never had any issues with the tank anxiety you guys talk about but tanking in that game was pretty easy but couldn't imagine trying to do it yet on this game. 

 

I'm currently doing my main as a White Mage but plan to be a Dragoon as my secondary class along with Botany and weaving are the other two I'm focusing on. They really did a fantastic job with it

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2 minutes ago, Trey said:

I just started playing FF14 myself (PC and NA) after coming over from my first dive into an MMO with ESO on PS4 and while I'm finding FF14 a little more difficult to wrap my head around all the bells and whistles it's definitely seems to be extremely user friendly. 

This being my first PC game I'm definitely struggling with the keyboard instead of the mouse when it comes to fighting but other than that I'm starting to get the hang out it. I was a tank on ESO and never had any issues with the tank anxiety you guys talk about but tanking in that game was pretty easy but couldn't imagine trying to do it yet on this game. 

 

I'm currently doing my main as a White Mage but plan to be a Dragoon as my secondary class along with Botany and weaving are the other two I'm focusing on. They really did a fantastic job with it

Are you an online gamer by nature? My tank anxiety doesn't so much come from the role itself as much as it comes from the amount of pressure that comes with the role. The thing is though is that Tanking is different across different games to be honest. I've had no issues tanking in this game because most things are pretty straight forward. When it comes to Dungeons, you can basically pull everything and as long as you mitigate correctly and move out of things you shouldn't stand in then you're fine. Point the enemies away from the group and you're gucci. So yeah, tanking in this game so far has been a breeze. I know that once you get into Raids and such it's a bit harder but it's nowhere near the difficulty of tanking in a game such as World Of Warcraft. In that game, the tank is responsible for everything and it's not just a matter of pull everything and kill. So yeah, tank anxiety in this game is much less about the role and my own personal anxiety towards working with people. I hate to screw up and let people down.

It's funny to me that you say you couldn't imagine tanking in this game, but you're starting with a White Mage since healing is 10x more difficult than tanking in this game from what I've heard from talking to people. I despise healing in any game and this one seems so much weirder even just because of the UI set up. I'm the kind of guy who wants to worry about keeping himself alive, not everyone in the party.

One of the best things about this game is that you can play every single job on one character. You can't optimize every single job but you don't really need to either. I do have 3 different toons just because I wanted one on each server but my Main is on Primal (Excalibur). I began playing this game simply because I want to play Gunbreaker. It's not available until after Level 50 but that's what I'm shooting for. I also want to level Machinst after that for DPS. Eventually I'll level everything but those are the two that I plan to play most.

The main storyline is a little slow but I'm told it gets a lot better once you get out of ARR, which is somewhere around the first 50 levels since they made it easier to level.

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19 hours ago, Forky said:

Are you an online gamer by nature? My tank anxiety doesn't so much come from the role itself as much as it comes from the amount of pressure that comes with the role. The thing is though is that Tanking is different across different games to be honest. I've had no issues tanking in this game because most things are pretty straight forward. When it comes to Dungeons, you can basically pull everything and as long as you mitigate correctly and move out of things you shouldn't stand in then you're fine. Point the enemies away from the group and you're gucci. So yeah, tanking in this game so far has been a breeze. I know that once you get into Raids and such it's a bit harder but it's nowhere near the difficulty of tanking in a game such as World Of Warcraft. In that game, the tank is responsible for everything and it's not just a matter of pull everything and kill. So yeah, tank anxiety in this game is much less about the role and my own personal anxiety towards working with people. I hate to screw up and let people down.

It's funny to me that you say you couldn't imagine tanking in this game, but you're starting with a White Mage since healing is 10x more difficult than tanking in this game from what I've heard from talking to people. I despise healing in any game and this one seems so much weirder even just because of the UI set up. I'm the kind of guy who wants to worry about keeping himself alive, not everyone in the party.

One of the best things about this game is that you can play every single job on one character. You can't optimize every single job but you don't really need to either. I do have 3 different toons just because I wanted one on each server but my Main is on Primal (Excalibur). I began playing this game simply because I want to play Gunbreaker. It's not available until after Level 50 but that's what I'm shooting for. I also want to level Machinst after that for DPS. Eventually I'll level everything but those are the two that I plan to play most.

The main storyline is a little slow but I'm told it gets a lot better once you get out of ARR, which is somewhere around the first 50 levels since they made it easier to level.

As someone with like half of the classes at 80 now, healing is way more chill than tanking in FFXIV. I love both, but healing is just doing a simple DPS rotation most of the time and then hitting one either AOE or single target heal button once people take enough damage to warrant it. I quite enjoy it but compared to something like WoW, healing is far and away the easiest role in this MMO. You have to pay attention, but once you know what you're doing it's actually less work than DPSing.

Tanking is super chill in FF though, you're right. Unfortunately in raids it's also kind of boring, until you're doing Savage raids, if you're not the main tank you're basically a less effective DPS, as there's not really as many tank tactics as WoW has (and WoW doesn't even have much!).

I enjoy FFXIV for different reasons than WoW, it's a much more chill time, but when it comes to challenges I think WoW has a better curve. FFXIV is like... everything is easy, then the first bit of hard content (Savage Raids) is much more punishing than WoW raids. A raid in FF is more like a game in memorising the tactics and executing them flawlessly - almost like a dance, where as a raid in WoW, even on Heroic, has more room for mistakes. Standing in the bad in WoW will see you lose half your health, but you can be healed back up. In FF, you'll die instantly, then you won't be in position to soak a mechanic the second afterwards and you'll wipe the raid.

GNB is awesome btw, most fun tank by far for my money - definitely worth getting there.

As with everyone else, I'll echo the sentiment of anyone interested should stick with it, every expansion is better than the last with Shadowbringers being, for my money, the best Final Fantasy story, maybe ever?

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