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Did somebody say duel?

They should retire his number.

That is nice, but which football club is doing it?

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This is a story that should be wild to me, but isn't at all because I feel like it happens relatively often. Silas Wamangituka, Stuttgart's top scorer last year, revealed to the club that his name and age are both fabricated lies after leaving DR Congo. He's apparently 1 year older than he has said, and his surname is different. Says a Belgian agent who had total control of his money and passports did it. Stuttgart are supporting him coming clean and don't have any intentions of consequencing him.


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Hopefully this gives Kanu the courage to finally admit he was 45 when Arsenal did the invincible season.

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Just look at Oliseh, Babayaro and many other's careers. At 18 you're starting for an european premier league club, at 21 you're at a top club in europe, at 23 you're at your peak, at 26 comes the decline. At 30 you're irrelevant.

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It's basically toil away in anonymity or have an opportunistic sports agent fabricate an identity. Can't ever fault the players for going along with it. Happens here with baseball a fair amount too, players hit their peak a couple years early than their peers and decline a couple years early as well.

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