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Hey, this is the my first time using your updates for TEW. Good update, and I enjoy how you went through and lowered everyone's stats to reduce stat inflation that is present in most real-world mods. I do have one concern though. Why is star quality and sex appeal seemingly very all over the place? From the best description of where to rate stats (Source - http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=524746), I have trouble understanding some of the choices.

Star Quality: Last but not least in this section is a stat that is universally helpful. Quite simply, the innate look of being a star. Don’t confuse this with recognising someone who is already a star because it is NOT that. There is a certain intangible quality that some people have, whether it be in their body language or their look. They just shout out to the world that they are a star, they are important, they are talented or something like that. The Rock is pretty much a perfect example of Star Quality. He was good looking, he was charismatic (both different stats) but what he had was a certain swagger, poise and charm that made him stand out from everyone else. You put him in a line-up with almost anyone else and ask people to pick out a star, and even people who don’t know him would single him out. You put Mick Foley in that same line up and he wouldn’t even get a second look. Mick Foley is popular and a highly successful star in his own right several times over, but Star Quality isn’t something he has a lot of. He became a a star despite lacking Star Quality and the poor guy gets this argument used on him every time I make this point. This stat CAN go hand in hand with high sex appeal, menace or charisma but it is generally something unique to a person. Hulk Hogan had it in spades though has lost some since his peak (I’d still sit him in the 70s for Star Quality now though, more than Mick Foley ever had). The Ultimate Warrior was packed to the gills with it. The Rock has it. Stone Cold had a lot of it, but not as much as anyone else mentioned so far (I’d set him in high 80s/low 90s even at his peak). John Cena has a lot of it but not as much as Austn (I’d go with high 80s). Batista oozed Star Quality too, one of the best for Camera skills in recent times with high 90s here. In terms of Divas, Trish had huge Star Quality… there was just a presence with her that wasn’t just her boobs looking you in the face, there was more. The current crop of gals wish they had what she had but most of them are simply attractive but with nothing to say “I’m a megastar” about them. Which is kinda why the Divas get overlooked a lot… there is some talented girls there, but they don’t have star quality the same way that some of the Attitude Era girls did. Tamina Snuka? Eve? The Bella Twins? Rosa Mendez? Mediocre star quality… though the Bellas might be a little better off in that regard than the others. As for the effect of the stat… it adds a little to everything a worker is part of, so while you might not see any obvious effects the little extra boosts you get will slowly add 0.1 popularity here and there. After a while it all adds up. At 100 I think this stat adds about 5 points to your contribution to a segment AND it helps you to shift a lot of merchandise, which is profit for your company.

One example on here is Mick Foley, who you have set to an 80 in Star Quality, and personally I would lower him down to 40 or 50, for the reasons stated above. Other notable examples: Rey Mysterio having 90 star quality. He is another worker I would personally say became popular despite low star quality, rather than being popular because of high star quality. I would personally lower him to 40-60. Jeff Hardy and Kurt Angle have 90, but I would argue that somewhere around 85 would be more accurate. I think a 90 on Star Quality should be reserved for the top 5 or so of the active workers in the database. Last, I see a massive amount of workers having 0 star quality. I would disagree with this. I believe that a zero would be reserved for literally just the average person or an announcer and such. You currently seem to have a zero as the baseline, where I would argue baseline for a wrestler should be somewhere like 50. If you have less, you are actively un-star-ish. Having more the opposite. I see loads of NXT, TNA, and Indie talent having absolutely zero star quality. Baron Corbin, Kalisto, and many others all have zero. I personally would say that a star quality overhaul is needed to make this more playable. Not saying everybody needs to be high, but giving Kalisto something like 40 star quality isn't unreasonable, and Baron Corbin would probably have at least a 50 (there's too many examples that I see to go through them one by one and give suggestions, just pointing out some examples). Bray Wyatt I see has a 50 and would arguably need a bump. His pure aesthetics may be about a 50 but the way he presents himself would indicate being at least a 70 in my opinion, especially if Jack Swagger has a 60.

Similarly, Sex Appeal probably needs the same treatment. A large portion of the database is 0 in this as well. I think the stat guide summarizes this for me best, so I'll just paste that here as well.

Sex Appeal: This is mostly important for women, as not only are they the fairer sex but they are generally the least intimidating one (unless you are dating them, obviously ). A gorgeous girl is fairly obviously gorgeous to most from a fairly short viewing on TV or from a handful of pictures so it shouldn’t be too hard to ballpark a value for their Sex Appeal. Most of the WWE Divas and TNA Knockouts are going to be in the 80 range for this, with some of the particularly attractive girls going above and beyond this. Many of the most popular females in these two companies have gotten there based on their looks as much as their talents, though the very best tend to have both. Trish Stratus was a high 90s sex appeal, Stacy Keibler, Torrie Wilson, Christy Hemme, Dawn Marie, Mickie James… some beautiful girls who all deserve 90+ in the Sex Appeal stat. Others probably around that range might include Lacey Von Erich, So Cal Val, Kelly Kelly (so good they named her twice)… the very atractive girls are going to be able to get over initially based on their looks and when the cap on that kicks in, their talents can take them the rest of the way. Don’t worry about being a little generous when you mod this particular stat, this is one where you can go a little bit too far without worrying about breaking the balance of a mod. In terms of males, sex appeal really isn’t a good way to push someone to get to the top of the wrestling world, so they tend to get lower ratings partly for that and partly by just not being as attractive. Anywhere between 20-40 would be a good range for a not-un attractive guy. Anything higher than that and we’re talking the kind of guys that girls will quite happily look at for ages, andonce you start to get above 50 we’re talking some seriously good looking dude. In the Cornellverse there are only a handful of guys above 60, with Champagne Lover basically being a Hollywood heart throb in the low 80s, which is where guys like Brad Pitt or George Clooney or whoever is an extremely attractive and famous man these days. I’m so out of touch with culture that my attempts to make pop culture references are never going to go well. Some guys that seem to be very popular with the ladies these days in pro wrestling include Randy Orton (60ish), John Cena (60ish), Batista (50s, though I’m not sure why), John Morrison (probably the highest scorer I can think of, 70s), Dolph Ziggler (50s, maybe 60s), AJ Styles (50s, maybe 60s as girls I know seem to love him). But primarily, sex appeal applies mostly for women in terms of generating popularity rather than for men.

I saw for example lots of the NXT female roster having 0s for Sex Appeal, and most males in the game having 0 as well. For the females, this is almost game-breaking, since that's one of the main ways to get a female popular. I would say that most reasonable looking females should have a minimum of 50 for this stat, only being lowered by people who are actively unattractive like Awesome Kong or such. (Just as an example that comes to the top of my head, some may disagree with my opinion of Awesome Kong's sex appeal) For males, it's less game-breaking, but still nice to have for accuracy's sake.

For both star quality and sex appeal, I wouldn't be the best to single out individual people and give recommendations for who should have what, but I just wanted to bring up that both stats are currently not where they should be at on a database-wide scale.

Hey Bill, thanks again for the awesome update.I have a question though. I have been away from EWR for a year or so, so I probably missed when it was changed and the reasoning as to why it is this way, but what's with the overness of everybody in the top organizations?

It seems everybody who even makes an appearance on Raw nowadays is an 80+ over in the data. People like R-Truth, Santino Marella and Kofi Kingston who are the definitions of midcarders are 80+, whereas Evan Bourne or Zack Ryder who are the definition of lower-midcarders are in midcarder (70-80) range. I'm sure this all has a good reasoning, since your updates are always top notch, I'm just wondering if you could tell me what it is?

thanks for the update!

Rename Leakee to Roman Reigns

Remove DT Porter from WWE

Rename Brodie Lee to Luke Harper

Rename PAC to Pac McBryer

Add Mercedes KV to WWE

Remove Devon from TNA

Rename Joel Pettyfer to Oliver Grey

Rename Martin Stone to Danny Burch

Also,

Remove Claire Lynch from TNA

Remove Chris Jericho from WWE

Thanks Bill!

Also, make sure to keep him as wrestler, and not change to non-wrestler.

"The people that are stepping away are ones that have been there for years and years and years. It's a grueling schedule- physically, mentally. Traveling is hard. It's good to know that you have these other options and you have to explore them. For me, I wrestled for 15 years straight every day, left for a couple years, came back for another three years, wrestled straight every day almost, and then, you know, left for awhile, came back for nine months. As you get older, I think that's a good schedule. I've kind of built up my status in the WWE where I can do that. Not everybody can, but you know, you look at guys like The Rock or… You know the thing is when Rock came back, he just comes back for once or twice, I came back and did every show. I was in Abilene, Texas working house shows as well as working Madison Square Garden. I didn't pick and choose my spots. I came back for nine months and that's the way I'll always be. I like doing the whole cycle and if I came back for a month, I'd still do as many house show matches, not just do TVs and pay per views. So, you know, for me I like doing it. Like I said, I've been playing with Fozzy since 2000 and I've been playing in bands since I was 12, so it's not a matter of making this choice, it's who I am and it's just what I do at this point. So from this point forward that'll be how I work WWE. I'll just be coming in and out when I have openings in my schedule, but when I come in, I'll make sure to give 1000% and do as many shows as I can in that timeframe."

Source: http://www.localbozo.com/2012/08/fozzys-chris-jericho-talk-wwe-sin-and-bones-playing-nyc-and-future-plans-with-localbozo-com/

when are people gonna realize the 2100 scenerio doesnt work? js

It does, you just have to put it as a save file.

Thanks very much. This really does come in handy.

Had to reformat my computer, and I can no longer find anywhere to get Arsenic Promotion Editor. Any link I can ever find id megaupload, which obviously doesn't work anymore, or the file has been removed. Anyone out there who still has it and would be willing to upload it? I would be very appreciative.

I finally moved up to pro mode. (I usually play all games on easy) I love the challenge I get. (don't shun me for being so much worse than you guys)

BTW, anybody else get this proble,? I try to go into EASHL and it tells me an Xbox Live Membership prevents me from using this feature. That makes no sense. I have Gold live, registered on EAwhatever.com, did all that stuff and it still won't let me.

Holy ballsack. I seriously need help with goalie mode. I took all the tips I could find on google and I still let in a goal after 3 shots. In other words that means I can't get past a single game (because I quit the game after I get a bad enough save percentage)

The DLC sucks now. Until they get some good Sabbath (Crazy Train and Iron Man), I'm done with DLC.

That sounds about right. Same publisher, different developers.

I do know for a fact that it has not always been the same company. It switched like very game except 2 and 3. Either that or my friends are lying bitches.

I have officially boycotted GH ever since the new company made GH3 and Harmonix switched from making GH to Rock Band. Since Then, rock band only. I stick with the company that makes the good games.

Everyone at school around about 8 months ago:

"CALL OF DUTY 5 IS GONNA BE SHIT!"

Eight months later:

"CALL OF DUTY 5 IS GONNA BE AWESOME!"

Back on the subject: I felt Call Of Duty 4 didn't live up to the hype, thus why I am not even gonna invest in getting number 5.

Just pointing out but I heard that this isn't actually COD5. They will have a different company making the numbered series and this company makes a side series like this one. Just what I heard on the internet not sure if it's true or not.

Thanks dude.

What ever happened to the photo creator for this? I hear of people having it and stuff. Does it only come with the special edition or something?

I could get BOS achievement on Vocals but already platinum on that so I'll just wait untill I can do them all (Visions) on Bass.

Just beat endless setlist on Vocals expert yesterday. 30 million fans just for beating it.

If anybody wants somebody to play with that plays expert on all instruments (except some songs on drums and one or two on guiter) and has lots of DLC, add me. My gamertag is Wild Norrisist

But yeah if you can sing, i recommend doing the endless setlist. The only song that is slightly challenging was Spoonman. And OMG I love battery. Bass it's fun as hell but surprisingly easy. Guitar brings a great challenge that you can get by if you try. Drums it's just........OMFGWTFHAX And vocals it's easy as hell but fun to boot.

2 Cuts I made when I was bored from WWE.com.

Rey Mysterio

R-Truth

PS: Rey Mysterio looks fat in that picture.

I think those are jewels.

Crocodile Dundee is a fraud.

Where did that come from?

Meh I Made my first one today. In paint...

http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bigshowfj0.png

Good edit. For paint at least. A bit choppy around the edges.

I was thinking of making a quick tutorial on how to make good edits.

1: Download Gimp

2: Open up the Kyky or whatever background you want.

3: Paste the pic on.

4: Do the moving/resizing

5: Erase the background at 400% zoom

6: Anchor Layor

Anybody got any generic masked wrestlers that I can use for people with new masked gimmicks or people out of training camp?

I can honestly say FF8 was the only one that would interest me enough to play it through. Or at least untill it froze at the end of the first disk.

can I get just like any person on KyKy but all there body is blacked out so you dont know who it is? Let them be able to see from head to waist or thighs

Not the best but...

Can someone please put these on Kyky?

Though personally I don't know why you like Kyky better than that other one. I love that other one. Does anybody have a template background for that one?