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  1. Shawn Michaels (Beginning of 1997):

    Short name: HBK

    Birth Month: July

    Age: 31

    Weight: Lightweight

    Written Contract with WWF as a main event face using the Show Stealer gimmick

    Stats:

    Brawling: 79

    Speed: 84

    Technical: 82

    Stiffness: 40

    Selling: 97

    Over: 97

    Charisma: 96

    Attitude: 25

    Behavior: 33

    Shawn's stiffness should be around 70. Hall and Nash both said that Shawn worked stiff and expected the same in return.

  2. Thanks, but doesn't "brawl" refer to other things other than the crispness of punches thrown? For example, the kinds of moves they execute, etc.

    absolutely. HHH was more of a technical wrestler than a brawler in 96. he used a lot of chinlocks, armbars, abdominal stretches and leglocks. but at the same time, he wasnt as good of a technical wrestler as he was a few years later. his timing and attention to detail improved naturally as he gained experience.

    Okay, that works for me. Thanks!!!

    :) thats just my opinion. feel free to await input from others though.

  3. Thanks, but doesn't "brawl" refer to other things other than the crispness of punches thrown? For example, the kinds of moves they execute, etc.

    absolutely. HHH was more of a technical wrestler than a brawler in 96. he used a lot of chinlocks, armbars, abdominal stretches and leglocks. but at the same time, he wasnt as good of a technical wrestler as he was a few years later. his timing and attention to detail improved naturally as he gained experience.

  4. I agree with your stats. BTW, what would you give Triple H for brawl, speed, & tech in 1996 and 2000?

    Triple H (96)

    Age 27

    Brawl 71

    Speed 32

    Tech: 64

    Stiffness 40

    Selling 83

    Over 73

    Charisma 77

    Attitude 95

    Behavior 89

    yes to superstar look

    Triple H (2000)

    Age 31

    Brawl 81

    Speed 23

    Tech: 69

    Stiffness 45

    Selling 74

    Over 91

    Charisma 85

    Attitude 79

    Behavior 87

    yes to superstar look, yes to menacing, yes to announcer, yes to booker

  5. Was Mero really that much of a high flier? I honestly didn't see a lot of his work during his prime (just his brief run in TNA and some WCW stuff), but it didn't seem like he was that much of a high flier...

    While he didnt go throwing himself off the turnbuckles that often he had alot more on-foot speed than alot of people give him credit for.

    No, Mero's brawl and speed should be lowered, his brawl should be 68 and speed should be like 65, he was never that really good than what stats you are giving him

    its all a matter of opinion i suppose, but i personally think Mero was one of the most underrated workers of the 90s. he incorporated alot of high flying moves into his matches with alot more psychology than most high fliers do today. he used the shooting star press, 450 splash, Merosault (which took great balance to pull off), planchas over the top rope, etc. as far as brawling goes, i think 68 is too low. he was an amateur boxing champion and golden gloves winner before wrestling and he threw fast, crisp punches, definitely better than HHH at the time. Out of the two of them at the time, i think Mero was overall the better worker.

  6. Okay. How about Triple H's selling in 2000. I've seen it consistenly as 71 in 2000 but if it was 82-84 in 1996 that seems a little off. A bit of a drop for just 4 years IMO.

    He played completely different roles in 96 and 2000. In 96, guys like HHH, Owen Hart and Marc Mero were the undercard who made the rest of the show have to work harder to follow them, and in 2000 he was the no.1 heel in the company who no longer had to earn his spot by just putting on great matches.

    Also Marc Mero in 1996, please.

    Age 36

    Brawl 72

    Speed 73

    Tech: 55

    Stiffness 45

    Selling 78

    Over 74

    Charisma 79

    Attitude 90

    Behavior 88

    yes to superstar look, yes to shooting ability

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