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-Add Drolix to the game:
Drolix
Drolix
22
B 67
S 18
T 56
Stiff 54
Sell 63
Over 21
Charisma 59
Att 88
Behav 86
Check SS Look.
MCW, Lower Mid Card, Heel, Street Fighter
5,000
Speaks
American
Kata Ha Jima (Submission)
Lariat (Impact)
Loyalty to Gillberg, friendship with Nui Tofiga and Shawn Credle.
-Add Chuck Lennox to the game:
Chuck Lennox
Lennox
B 45
S 41
T 46
Stiff 38
Sell 72
Over 21
Charisma 62
Att 86
Behav 85
MCW, Lower Mid Card, Heel, Street Fighter
5,000
Speaks
American
Lennox Avenue (Impact)
Lennox Avenue (Impact)
Loyalty to Gillberg and Drolix, friendship with Nui Tofiga and Shawn Credle.
-Add a tag team between Drolix and Chuck Lennox, Black Wallstreet, 25 exp.
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-Rename Zuffa to Havoc. Make him a heavyweight. Check Menacing and Trainer. Change his image to this. Raise his brawl to 66, selling to 63, and overness to 34. Lower his speed to 39. Remove his touring commitment with Zero One. Make his gimmick Bad Ass. Raise his wages to 7,000.
There is are three other Havocs in the game (all with promotions in the name.) I named him Zuffa as per Bill's rule regarding the multiple names (Plus WXW is not and still not in the game.)
Yes, there are other Havocs, however none of them are just "Havoc". I don't see why it should be a problem (especially considering I am in the process of compiling all of the WXW talent who aren't in the game. Bill said, providing I give all of the info, WXW C4 would replace NWA F1).
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WrestleReunion isn't necessarily the same thing as PWG. From what I am aware, WrestleReunion is an event which acts as a gathering of several promotions. As for PWG attendance figures, from seeing videos I would estimate them to be 300-500ish.
-Add Sgt. RJR to the game:
Sgt. RJR
RJR
30
Heavyweight
B 50
S 19
T 57
Stiff 48
Sell 71
Over 25
Charisma 69
Att 92
Behav 92
Check Menacing, Trainer.
Face, Armed Forces
5,000
Speaks
American
Full Nelson Faceplant (Impact)
STO (Impact)
Alter egos: RJR, Rick Jimbo Radical
Add a loyalty with Samu and Supreme Lee Great.
Add a tag team with Mikey Valentino, The Privates, 20 exp.
-Add The Mastodon to the game:
The Mastodon
Mastodon
March, 29
Heavyweight
B 62
S 8
T 29
Stiff 48
Sell 66
Over 25
Charisma 63
Att 95
Behav 89
Check Menacing, Booker.
Heel, Enforcer.
5,000
Speaks
American
Designated Driver (impact)
Designated Driver (impact)
Loyalty to Samu, Supreme Lee Great, friendship with David Starr and The Dynamic Sensation.
-Add AC Anderson to the game:
AC Anderson
Anderson
October, 28
Heavyweight
B 63
S 19
T 34
Stiff 47
Sell 62
Over 34
Charisma 62
Att 86
Behav 87
Check Menacing.
Face, Bad Ass.
6,000
Speaks
American
Spinebuster (Impact)
Powerslam (Impact)
Loyalty to Zuffa (who needs to be renamed to Havoc) and Samu.
Add a tag team, South Side Terminators, AC Anderson and Havoc, 30 exp.
-Raise Billy Dream's selling to 63 and overness to 28.
-Rename Zuffa to Havoc. Make him a heavyweight. Check Menacing and Trainer. Change his image to this. Raise his brawl to 66, selling to 63, and overness to 34. Lower his speed to 39. Remove his touring commitment with Zero One. Make his gimmick Bad Ass. Raise his wages to 7,000.
-Lower Tommy Suede's stiffness to 71. Change his short name to Smooth. Lower his wages to 18,000.
-Change Dirty Rotten Scoundrelz's finisher to the Double Piledriver.
-Add a tag team of Afa Jr. and Samu, 20 exp.
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Does it though? Using EWB as a guide, I see a lot more talk about Shimmer than about PWG. Just because it limits itself to a certain style doesn't mean it's less popular.
It depends, where do you see more talk about it? Overall in the wrestling world I'd give a slight edge to PWG as far as brand awareness goes, as well as overall attendance figures.
Where do you hear the buzz on PWG anymore? In 2005, there was a lot and through I would say 2008/9 there were still talked about but now, it is mainly when they have angles. The last time I really hear of PWG on wrestling news sites is through the Kurt RussleMania shows which are bigger due to the reunion it is a part of. I think SHIMMER is actually a larger promotion in name value than PWG is at this point. A majority of the main PWG talent have left for WWE, TNA or even retired in the case of Human Tornado, Scott Lost and Chris Bosh
The fact is, SHIMMER itself currently draws 200 people at their home location but I think they can draw more than 400 people if they moved to a larger venue, they are a very known as people from all over the world travel to see the shows and could very well run more than 200 people. The brand is one of the better and known in wrestling. I would put it as the highest women's promotion and possibly 5th/6th overall.
That last part is completely speculation. As for PWG, I hear about them a lot on various wrestling forums. Are they having the same buzz as a few years back? No, but I'd still say a bit more than Shimmer is, not to mention, regardless of building size or anything like that, they are in fact drawing more fans. Would Shimmer draw more if they moved to a bigger building? Maybe. But maybe they'd draw the exact same amount, too.
As for Davey Richards, he is at the level that he is as well known as you can get for someone who is strictly indies. I would put him at 70.
Following this, I have these suggestions:
Raise Eddie Edwards overness to 68
Lower Homicide's overness to 70
Lower Jay Briscoe's overness to 69
Lower Jay Lethal's overness to 70
Lower Kevin Steen's overness to 70
Lower Mark Briscoe's overness to 69
Lower Roderick Strong's overness to 67
Agree with all except Homicide's. He has a lot of fame from his work in TNA, I would put him at 73.
-Add Shawn Credle to the game:
Shawn Credle
Credle
January, 38
Lightweight
B 16
S 0
T 5
Stiff 27
Sell 61
Over 27
Charisma 78
Att 92
Behav 90
Check Announcer and Booker.
Manager, Heel, The Brain.
7,000
Speaks
American
Cheap Shot (Impact)
Choke (Submission)
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Does it though? Using EWB as a guide, I see a lot more talk about Shimmer than about PWG. Just because it limits itself to a certain style doesn't mean it's less popular.
It depends, where do you see more talk about it? Overall in the wrestling world I'd give a slight edge to PWG as far as brand awareness goes, as well as overall attendance figures.
-Raise Maifu's overness to 31.
-Raise Saifu's overness to 31.
-Add Bo Nekoda to the game:
Bo Nekoda
Man's Man
22
Lightweight
B 69
S 33
T 46
Stiff 40
Sell 75
Over 29
Charisma 68
Att 93
Behav 92
Check SS Look and Menacing.
Heel, Angry Young Man
5,000
Speaks
American
Chopsaw Elbow (Ground)
Michinoku Driver (Impact)
Add a loyalty with Supreme Lee Great and Samu.
-Add Joe Gomez to the game:
Joe Gomez
Gomez
July, 39
Heavyweight
B 56
S 16
T 37
Stiff 38
Sell 64
Over 39
Charisma 63
Att 87
Behav 81
Check SS Look, Menacing, and Trainer.
9,000
Speaks
American
Tornado Slam (impact)
Spinebuster (impact)
Face, Old School Face
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My main argument would be that Shimmer seems to be a very niche product, while PWG has a broader fan base.
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I would put PWS and 2CW at an equal level. Also, I wouldn't put Shimmer at higher than PWG. I would say Shimmer should be in the 12-15 range.
If ROH is going to be at 76, NO WAY should Chikara be so close at 48. I would suggest Chikara be 38, DG-EVO should be 36, and ROH at 86.
As for Davey Richards, he is at the level that he is as well known as you can get for someone who is strictly indies. I would put him at 70.
-Raise Lance Anoai's overness to 34.
-Raise KC Blade's brawl to 49, overness to 34, and charisma to 76.
-Raise EC Negro's brawl to 47 and overness to 34.
-Add Mikey Valentino to the game:
Mikey Valentino
Valentino
January, 22
Lightweight
B 44
S 54
T 49
Stiff 41
Sell 60
Over 22
Charisma 53
Att 90
Behav 90
Check Shooting Ability.
Face, Armed Forces
3,000
Speaks
American
Front Flip Piledriver (impact)
Front Flip Piledriver (impact)
Loyalty to Supreme Lee Great and Samu.
Alter Egos: Mike Vess, Private Mike Vess, Private Valentino, Private Mikey Valentino, Private Mikey.
Upon thinking it over, NWA-F1 hasn't run in 4+ months. WXW C4 runs 2-3 times a month. I think they would be a great replacement, given that they are about the same size as F1. I will be providing stats for all of the workers as well as the company so it is ready for next month's release, if Bill is interested in swapping it out for NWA F1.
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I think how well known a promotion is should trump how many places it runs. WWC is very well known, and from what I know they draw good crowds in Puerto Rico. I would say high regional at least.
I disagree that PWG is no longer a hotbed for wrestling. I would put it at 18-22 Cult. I would put CZW around 24-28, and DG-USA to 29-34. PWS I will agree they should be regional, but high regional to compensate for the numbers they draw, around 84-88. Chikara should be around the same as DG-USA.
As of right now, NWA Force-1 hasn't run in a few months. I'll give it a month or two more, but if I don't hear anything else from them I'll assume they are done. I think WXW C4 would be a good substitute for them, though. I'll work on providing stats.
-Raise The Dynamic Sensation's brawl to 45, stiffness to 46, selling to 60, overness to 24, and charisma to 59.
-Add David Starr to the game:
David Starr
Product
February, 21
Lightweight
B 65
S 63
T 66
Stiff 44
Sell 76
Over 27
Charisma 64
Att 91
Behav 87
Check SS Look and Shooting.
Heel, Cocky
4,000
Speaks
American
Roaring Elbow (Impact)
Superkick (Impact)
Loyalty to Supreme Lee Great and Samu.
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Thanks Bill, you're the man! I would give TNA and ROH and 10-15 point image bump, though.
That would put TNA at 83-88 National and ROH at 86-91 Cult... Wouldn't be too long before TNA was Global and ROH was National... The same situation everyone was bitching about last month.
That's the exact reason why I wanted to leave them as they were... With TNA as a low Global and ROH as a low National... To prevent either (or both) of them from jumping to the next level so soon in a new game.
-Bill
Both are on the brink of being on national/global, I think it would be realistic to have them as such in game.
-Raise Jushin Liger's technical to 84 (watching matches from 2012 and he still is a fantastic technician). Lower his stiffness to 66.
-Raise Ebessan III's brawl to 19 and charisma to 66.
-Raise Gedo's charisma to 67.
-Raise Jado's charisma to 70.
-Raise Tiger Mask IV's brawl to 68, overness to 44, and charisma to 34.
-Raise Kikutaro's stiffness to 36, technical to 48, overness to 46, and charisma to 84.
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Thanks Bill, you're the man! I would give TNA and ROH and 10-15 point image bump, though.
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Did we drop Jericho's att and behavior after the brazil flag kick? I know there was a lot of discussion, and I believe there was little to no change. I might be wrong there. The AW incident is similar to The Jericho one. I think the change in stats should match.
I disagree here. There's a difference between offending people at a house show and dropping an offensive line on live television.
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OK... Since this incident just happened and there's been a bit of back and forth on it, I made some changes earlier (based on the posts) and these are the current attitudes and behaviors for the 4 workers being discussed:
Davey Richards - 59, 63
Tony Kozina - 66, 68
Kyle O'Reilly - 66, 68
New Jack - 54, 19
If anyone feels they need to be adjusted from there, feel free to continue debating, but be as quick as possible... August update will be up within the next 24 hours (actually, probably within the next 15 hours, but who's counting...)
-Bill
I would lower Richard's attitude to 54 and Kozina's to 54 as well. Richard seems to be the ring leader in the event, but Kozina did shoot on the 16 year old kid, so I'd put them at the same in the mid 50s.
I would also lower Dawn Marie's attitude/behavior a tad to the early 80s. With all of the talk about Wrestler's Rescue being a scam, I don't think she should have it in the high 90s.
After his remark on Raw, lower Abraham Washington's A/B a smidge. Raise his overness to 57 and charisma to 76.
I would disagree on the AW thing. He made a mistake, he realized it was a mistake and thats that. It was a joke, a bad joke, but a joke none the less and I don't believe that warrants a change in attitude or behavior at all. Yes on the overness and a big NO for charisma. He is decent as is and fine at that level.
Mistake or not, it is a BIG mistake to make on national TV, and it doesn't justify a 90s rating in attitude and behavior.
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OK... Since this incident just happened and there's been a bit of back and forth on it, I made some changes earlier (based on the posts) and these are the current attitudes and behaviors for the 4 workers being discussed:
Davey Richards - 59, 63
Tony Kozina - 66, 68
Kyle O'Reilly - 66, 68
New Jack - 54, 19
If anyone feels they need to be adjusted from there, feel free to continue debating, but be as quick as possible... August update will be up within the next 24 hours (actually, probably within the next 15 hours, but who's counting...)
-Bill
I would lower Richard's attitude to 54 and Kozina's to 54 as well. Richard seems to be the ring leader in the event, but Kozina did shoot on the 16 year old kid, so I'd put them at the same in the mid 50s.
I would also lower Dawn Marie's attitude/behavior a tad to the early 80s. With all of the talk about Wrestler's Rescue being a scam, I don't think she should have it in the high 90s.
After his remark on Raw, lower Abraham Washington's A/B a smidge. Raise his overness to 57 and charisma to 76.
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Personally I would leave New Jack's attitude where it is. I don't often hear much about him being difficult to actually work with from a promoter's perspective (as far as payment, agreeing to job, etc goes).
Also, while I would lower O'Reilly's attitude and behavior to the high 60s, I wouldn't do it anymore. He has come across as remorseful and said he would be sending the promoter back his money.
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I didn't say that. What I said was that it was a matter of difference between attitude and behavior. Those things that New Jack did seem to fall under the "behavior" stat, which for him is currently at 19. I am suggesting those three get their attitude (which covers business related things) and behavior lowered to the 50s-60s, neither of which is anywhere near New Jack's 19.
BTW, looking at the data, there is a Naoki Tanizaki and a Naoki Tanisaki. Are they the same person?
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Richards should def have 50s for attitude - what he did is about as unprofessional as you can get. New Jack always seemed like more of a behavior issue than an attitude one. You never hear about him scamming promoters, or anything like that.
O'Reilly I would lower his attitude/behavior to the 60s based on the response that he wrote, and the fact that he went along with everything to begin with.
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Turn Epico, Primo and Rosa Mendes = Face
Turn Chris Jericho = Face
Turn Christian = Face
Turn Kane = Face
Remove Edge, Eli Cottonwood, Sonny Elliott off the WWE
I'd leave Edge on an open contract. As for Kane I'd leave him as a tweener.
-Raise Tony Kozina's overness to 41 and charisma to 68. Lower his wages to 16,000. Check Shooting. Given the recent incident involving him, Davey Richards, and Kyle O'Reilly, seeing his match vs. Ryan Kidd, and hearing Kyle O'Reilly's response, I think all of them deserve a massive drop in attitude and behavior (this whole incident was one of the most unprofessional things I have ever heard of happening by such high profile indy guys):
-Lower Tony Kozina's attitude to 59 and behavior to 65 (shooting on a sixteen year old kid in the ring, plus all of the other nonsense from that weekend).
-Davey Richard's attitude to 53 and behavior to 62 (he seemed to be the ring leader).
-Kyle O'Reilly's attitude to 66 and behavior to 68 (he seemed like he followed along with the actions and did not lead them in anyway, but still went along with them).
-Check Booker for Jaysin Strife. Raise his overness to 18. Add a hate relationship with him and the three above.
Unrelated:
-Check SS Look for Oliver Cain. Raise his brawl to 61, and technical to 62, and overness to 32. Raise his wages to 8,000.
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Where? I can't find anything within the last couple of years for him offhand. I mean, has he really gotten better as time has gone on? Based on his work in the WWF, I'd suggest he belongs at about 60, and his overness about 55, if not less.
Kris, I think you once said you're in the business, is it possible you're a little too close to the situation in some cases? I don't mean it as an insult or a slight, more addressing the discrepancies.
To address the first statement, I thought he was ALWAYS a terrific brawler. His stuff in WWECW best highlights that. He is still tearing it up around the indy scene, I know he regularly appears for NWS in NJ.
As for the second statement, haha, no, just from being a fan and seeing a ton of tri-state area shows. A lot of these guys get seen in maybe one clip or match and assume they deserve X stat, but when I give my opinion that they deserve Y it is usually based on seeing a variety of their matches and seeing their fully fledged, rounded performances. If people disagree that's perfectly fine, I make suggestions because I have fun doing it and am always up for debate.
BTW, currently in the process of making stats for WXW C4 as well as guys who are on the roster but not in the game, just in case there is any interest of adding it.
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Kris, I'm glad you're active in the thread and offering opinions, but I think it's weird that you're trying to raise stats or guys who haven't wrestled in a long time or are past their prime.
Since when has Hardcore Holly "not wrestled in a long time"? He still works frequently on the indies and is still an awesome brawler.
-Rename Dynamic Sensation to The Dynamic Sensation. His short name to TDS. Raise his brawl to 38, technical to 46, stiffness to 34, overness to 16, and charisma to 56. Check High Spots.
-Change Lee Great's name to Supreme Lee Great. Short name to SLG. Raise his brawl to 76, speed to 57, technical to 68, and charisma to 82. He is legit one of the best guys on the indies today .
-Add a tag team: TDSLG (The Dynamic Sensation and Supreme Lee Great), 15 exp.
WXW C4 run 2-3 times a month, have a local television show, and I can keep them up to date, if you are interested in adding them.
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Regarding Alex Riley's status with WWE, it's said that he lost his push that was in the works because of a backstage incident with John Cena. PWInsider.com reports word going around is that a while back, Riley was backstage with John Cena and Cena was ribbing him in front of some of the other wrestlers. Riley reportedly came back angrily at Cena, which was seen as him "breaking the code of the locker-room."
Low Alex Riley's behaviour 5-10 points. Cenas too.
I would not lower anyone's behavior in this case, I would say attitude. Ribbing is still allowed however Riley was in the wrong according to the office. I would say 10 for Riley (lowering him to 77) and 10 for Cena (he currently has a 98 in attitude.)
I am pretty sure the PWE/NWA-East is going to be removed though I cannot speak for Bill.
This is the first "negative" thing I have ever heard of Cena, and it doesn't seem like he was in the wrong at all. I would leave Cena as is.
-Raise Big Daddy Voodoo's stiffness to 63. Lower his overness to 62.
-Raise Hardcore Holly's brawl to 75 and speed to 30. Lower his attitude to 76 and behavior to 71.
-Check SS Look for Matt Capotelli. Lower his attitude to 88.
-Lower Larry Sharpe's talent to 60 and backstage to 66.
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-Raise Matt Bennett's talent to 75 and age to 28.
Got a link on the age? Only thing I've found is a myspace page and that says his age currently is 24, which is what is in the game: http://www.myspace.com/smbennett
-Bill
Basic math of him doing it 10 years, and from watching I know he wasn't 14 when he started.
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Remove Al Snow, Eric Bischoff, Hector Guerrero and Jeremy Borash from the Workers list and add them as Staff Members for TNA.
Al Snow - Road Agent, 86 talent
Eric Bischoff - Production - 90 talent
Hector Guerrero - Announcer - 70 talent
Jeremy Borash - Announcer - 78 talent
Al Snow still works weekly indy shows, he DEFINITELY should be left in as a worker.
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Even more RAW spoilers:
Change AJ's gimmick to Staff Member or People's Boss. She is the new Raw GM.
Disagree:
Just because she is GM doesn't change the fact that the most important part of her character is that she is crazy. I'd leave her as is.
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speaking of crowd sizes, is there a database for that? And it should be a factor, but I'm not sure how much of one. Reportedly, aren't TNA and ROH drawing poorly these days?
From what I gather ROH draws anywhere between 200-1000. CZW draws anywhere from 250-700+ (700+ being at TOD, COD. Average house being 200-400.). DG-USA 200-350.
EWR 2012 Stats Update: August ***PLEASE USE SPOILER TAGS***
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Posted · Edited by KrisClassic
-Add Niya to the game:
-Add Jessie Kaye to the game:
-Add Doc Daniels to the game:
-Add Mustafa Aziz Daniels to the game:
-Add Solo to the game:
-Raise Earl the Pearl's brawl to 52, technical to 34, stiffness to 43, selling to 64, and overness to 25. Lower his wages to 8,000.
-Raise Kacee Carlisle's brawl to 63, technical to 54, stiffness to 44, overness to 24, and charisma to 63.
-Raise Rich Myers' overness to 25.
-Remove Solo from Solo Darling's alter egos to make room for the worker above.
Only a few more stats need to be provided til WXW C4 has a full roster in-game, then I'll post the stats for the company.