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Agree! But do you think Guys like Jackson, JTG & Ryan would be cheered or booed by the entire Audience at DGUSA? :lmao:No? So why has Jackson a 66 in Overness? Most of the guys who got fired from WWE the last Years get no contract with a notable promotion. Look at Kevin Thorn, Manu, Cliff Compton, Eric Escobar, Slam Master J, Luke Gallows, Mike Knox, Paul Burchill Michael Tarver...not even Chris Masters & DH Smith are Big in the Indies. And i bet it would be the same with the most of the Guys in the WWE Undercard. And it was said most of the Indy Stars are not on TV. Again...Agree. But a lot of the WWE Undercarder are also not at RAW or SmackDown (If they were, then they are used as Jobbers and that's it).. They are at Superstars & NXT. And Superstars and NXT are also not on TV. So why has Chris Hero a 53 and JTG a 62 in Overness? Both are not at national TV! And the WWE Audience don't care about JTG like they don't about Ohno. But Ohno, or should i say Hero, would be a Main Eventer in ROH....But JTG? No way! I bet JTG would not even get a contract. I don't say there is no Problem with the Stats in the Game but i think that's not the perfect solution. Maybe like notarardis mentioned it: Lower the most Workers and ALL the Promotions! (including the WWE and TNA Under Carder) Then you should lower the Overness of all Undercarders and Divas. The most of them get also no reactions.

Rename to S.C.U.M. (Suffering, Chaos, Ugliness, and Mayhem)

I think " well known" is not the same like "Overness". (And btw NXT and Superstars are not even on TV.) For me it is ridicioulus to see that Guys like Ezekiel Jackson has 66 in Overness while Guys like Chris Hero and Tyler Black are way below. For the most who doesn't play with WWE this makes no sense. When you Play with TNA, ROH, DGUSA and so on, WWE fires all of the Development and Undercard Guys. Black/Rollins then is a Free Agent with a Overness of 54. That's not even Midcard in ROH. At the same Time you can book The Great Khali as a Main Eventer. So maybe it works for all the Guys who play with WWE but i don't think it is very realistic for the others

And my ultimate rebuttle is this and is bolded, underlined and italizied: Does it make any sense why a guy that is NOT ON TV FOR WWE more over than lower guys on the roster WHO ARE??????0 You can't tell me if Bo Dallas, Dean Ambrose, Kassius Ohno, Richie Steamboat, Seth Rollins just so happened to show up on RAW or SmackDown next week that they will be as over as Curt Hawkins, Darren Young, Epico, Jei Uso, Jimmy Uso, Michael McGuillicutty, Primo, Titus O'Neil, Trent Barretta, Tyler Reks or Yoshi Tastu. You cannot tell me that even IF these guys were to debut in the Northeast, they would get the reaction. Taz at 2000 Royal Rumble was huge because Taz was probably as over as any ECW guy could be that was not named Rob Van Dam was at that point. COULD Ambrose, Cesaro, Ohno and even Rollins be dropped and return to their glory on the indpendents in the 50's YES they can be upper midcard which I would say at the point they were hired they were. Cesaro and Ohno could borderline main event as a tag team and Ambrose never even main evented ONCE in DG-USA. CZW he was world champion when they were borderline regional which in the 50's HE COULD. If WWE would release Hero, CC or Black they were still Stars at ROH or DGUSA... but nobody at ROH, DGUSA, PWG cares about Darren Young, Michael McGuillicutty or Titus O'Neill. A lot of the WWE Midcard Guys would not be that over in ROH.... So they don't goto RoH, they would go else where and be stars. Look at Matt Hardy, he headlines for PWS and Extreme Rising. And who's to say that RoH would not be interested in any current WWE guys. they may be it is just not known. Hell TNA may be interested in the guys and put them in their mid card programs too. Sorry...diagree...Matt Hardy & Co. appears at PWS as Special Attraction once or twice a year. It is similar to Hero's last Appearances at ROH. A Special Attraction. No Regular, No Main Eventer! And Matt Hardy isn't Epico, Young or O'Neill & Co. Look at the guys that were fired in the last few years Luke Gallows, Cliff Compton, Masters, Eugene, Shad, Michael Tarver and so on....None of these guys would be or has headline a show for ROH, PWG, DGUSA or CZW. Hero, CC, Rollins & Co. would like Low-Ki, Colt Cabana or Daniel Bryan did (in 2010) TNA also rarely takes these guys under contract. PWS and Extreme Rising are a different kind of Wrestling Promotions. They are specialized to bring back old stars. IMO a different Story. PS: Sorry for my bad English. I'm from Germany x)

And my ultimate rebuttle is this and is bolded, underlined and italizied: Does it make any sense why a guy that is NOT ON TV FOR WWE more over than lower guys on the roster WHO ARE??????0 You can't tell me if Bo Dallas, Dean Ambrose, Kassius Ohno, Richie Steamboat, Seth Rollins just so happened to show up on RAW or SmackDown next week that they will be as over as Curt Hawkins, Darren Young, Epico, Jei Uso, Jimmy Uso, Michael McGuillicutty, Primo, Titus O'Neil, Trent Barretta, Tyler Reks or Yoshi Tastu. You cannot tell me that even IF these guys were to debut in the Northeast, they would get the reaction. Taz at 2000 Royal Rumble was huge because Taz was probably as over as any ECW guy could be that was not named Rob Van Dam was at that point. COULD Ambrose, Cesaro, Ohno and even Rollins be dropped and return to their glory on the indpendents in the 50's YES they can be upper midcard which I would say at the point they were hired they were. Cesaro and Ohno could borderline main event as a tag team and Ambrose never even main evented ONCE in DG-USA. CZW he was world champion when they were borderline regional which in the 50's HE COULD. If WWE would release Hero, CC or Black they were still Stars at ROH or DGUSA... but nobody at ROH, DGUSA, PWG cares about Darren Young, Michael McGuillicutty or Titus O'Neill. A lot of the WWE Midcard Guys would not be that over in ROH....

Remove Sugi San from AAA Remove Loco Max from CMLL Maybe add a Stable (Name ???) Kevin Steen (Leader), Steve Corino & Jimmy Jacobs.

ROH Update Lower Andy Ridge's Overness to 37 Raise Caprice Coleman's Overness to 38 Raise Cedric Alexander 's Overness to 38 Lower Christopher Silvio's Overness to 34 Raise Eddie Edwards' Overness to 68 Raise El Generico's Overness to 65 Lower Grizzly Redwood's Overness to 38 Raise Matt Jackson's Overness to 64 Raise Nick Jackson's Overness to 64 Raise Michael Elgin's Overness to 58 Raise Tommaso Ciampa's Overness to 48 Add QT Marshall Opener, Heel, Cocky Lower Tony Kozina's Speed to 73 and Selling to 80

Raise Kevin Steens Charisma to 88! IMO he ist one of the most charismatic Guys today. No way he is at one Level with Derrick Bateman (84). And IMO he is way more charismatic than Bob Backlund (85), R-Truth (89- o.O WTF?) & Santino Marella (89)

ROH has fired King http://www.rohwrestl...nny-king-update

Why increase it? Granted I don't watch much ROH, but Austin Areis ?sp was the ROH champ and left the promotion for TNA, became the x division champion. Therefore IMO the x division belt should be higher than the ROH title, the x division title is only at 73. At the current 70 it is still higher than the CMLL world title, AAA Megaheavyweight and the TNA TV title. Up for interpretation. Because the TNA X-Divsion and TV Title are nearly worthless in 2012!?