ModestATT

Raw Spoilers :

Wade Barrett is the new IC title, it got hotshotted.

Dolph Ziggler cashed in his MITB contract and won the World Title.

Turn Ryback Heel.

What happened between Taz and RVD? Did I miss something? http://gyazo.com/734135e30f7ca26cfa6119065210e308

Add Sonjay Dutt to TNA.

Maven Huffman is 220lb so I was thinking should he be a Lightweight? Can't remember the weight cap.

EDIT:

A few TNA minor changes

Make AJ Styles a Main Eventer

Make Bully Ray a Main Eventer

Make Chavo Guerrero a Upper Midcarder

Make James Storm a Main Eventer

Make Magnus a Upper Midcarder

Make Mr. Anderson a Main Eventer

Raise Petey William's Overness to 65 make him a Midcarder

Make Samoa Joe a Main Eventer

Raise Taryn Terrells Overness to 62

Deactivate the team of Eric Young and ODB

Wrestlemania Spoilers :

The Miz is the new Intercontinental Champion

John Cena is the new WWE Champion

Also Raise Rob Van Dam's Overness to 87, if he returned to WWE which he said is possible then he'd be pushed to Main Event straight away but if he returned to TNA he'd be around 85ish so I think 87 is fair

A few more TNA changes and a couple of WWE changes :

TNA

Raise Zema Ion's Overness to 72

Raise Taz's Overness to 76

WWE

Lower Undertaker's Overness to 99, he doesn't deserve to be on the level of The Rock and Austin

Lower Triple H's Overness to 98

Lower Shawn Michael's Overness to 97

Raise Antonio Cesaro's Overness to 84

Lower Jack Swagger's Charisma to 77

Why has Ambrose's charisma been lowered from 87/88 to 83? I mean Derrick Bateman, Alberto Del Rio and Antonio Cesaro have higher charisma than him (84) Just curious. I'd say 86 AT LEAST for Dean Ambrose.

When multiple people suggest stat changes, I do my best to go with a happy medium. When certain workers are argued over month after month, their stats will likley change month by month, becaue of people's varying opinions and who voices them that month. Cena and Orton are two other workers that nobody ever seems happy with.

Personally (and I know I'm gonna take crap for this)... I don't know what some people see in Ambrose. IMO, he should be lower than Cesaro and Del Rio... Bateman's charisma probably needs lowered in the scenario you mention above, but personally, I'd put Rollins and Reigns ahead of Ambrose, charisma-wise. But, I don't factor my personal opinion into things too often and didn't in this case, either... Which is why Ambrose's charisma is higher than Rollins and Reigns.

I'm not gonna give you crap for it. I mean, all this stuff is opinion-based, and I'm voicing mine. I just don't feel like most people know what Dean Ambrose is capable of. It reminds me of when people were saying CM Punk was less charismatic than Randy Orton just because Punk didn't get the chance to display what he can do on the mic. Those who watched him elsewhere knew, but he wasn't given the time or opportunity in WWE yet. Shield has had brief promos that are basically soundbytes chopped up and once in a while they get a mic for a minute.

Between his mannerisms and his promos when he was Jon Moxley, I think the guy deserves charisma in the high 80s and maybe better than that, but much like the CM Punk debate, I can't explain it until he demonstrates it on a large scale in WWE.

He's just so different and more like a real actor, I guess... I'll drop one promo here, since I don't want to derail this thread into a debate about one guy:

I just see a lot of classic Funk and Foley and Raven in there...

EDIT: Ah, fuck it, lol

>When multiple people suggest stat changes, I do my best to go with a happy medium. When certain workers are argued over month after month, their stats will likley change month by month, becaue of people's varying opinions and who voices them that month. Cena and Orton are two other workers that nobody ever seems happy with.

-Bill

Wanted to add: Cena just got loud BORING chants during his last promo on Raw and in the few before that he wasn't getting loud crowd reactions either way, and when he was, they were boos. Cena can play up the fact he's "transcending" the stereotypes of faces and heels, but to me the guy is a babyface who is getting booed, much like HBK in '97 or Hogan in '95, and they all had to change and go heel because their act was stale and their promos weren't convincing or connecting with the crowd. I think that Cena has been in this spot for several years now and he doesn't deserve charisma in the top tier.

The only people chanting boring and booing him are the internet fans who think it's cool to hate on Cena when it's really stale now. I think that he is going to turn heel but he doesn't deserve any less than 95 Charisma, I can't name 5 people who are more charismatic than him, the only person I can think of on the spot is CM Punk.

Lowton is better than every Premier League Striker except Benteke, Bent, Agbonlahor, Weimann and Bowery

Some TNA Suggestions :

Raise Jeff Hardy's Brawling to 72 Speed to 77 Technical to 63 Lower his selling to 87 Overness to 92

Lower Kurt Angle's Charisma to 91

Lower Magnus's Charisma to 78

Raise Sting's Overness to 93 Brawling to 76

I think Jeff Hardy is more over than Sting. Jeff has been World Champion multiple times in WWE and TNA and he just seems to be more of a big-name star than Sting by a hair. If anything, have Hardy around 93-94 in over, and Sting a point below that.

I don't think Magnus or Angle need their charismas lowered. Both are solid promos with Kurt having the widest versatility and range in character in just about ANYONE. Most top level charismatic performers have only done one character. Ric Flair, John Cena, The Rock, Stone Cold, etc. remained virtually unchanged. On the contrary, Kurt Angle and I guess Chris Jericho are among the few who have drastically altered characters and still cut amazing promos on a regular basis. Kurt has done everything from cornball face to vicious heel to leader of an elitist stable to his current role as leader of the locker room. He's done really good promos all the way through. I can't see him being less than 95 for that reason.

Kurt Angle used to be amazing at promos but now he just bores me so much, I thought I was being generous with 91, It's always the same lines every promo he's no where near as good as he was couple of years back.

I think we've had this discussion before about Hardy n Sting, and as I said Jeff Hardy is my favourite but I believe that Sting is on par with him in TNA, if Sting went to WWE than the reaction wouldn't be as good as Jeff Hardy returning because the fans are just 5-10 year olds now.

Some TNA Suggestions :

Raise AJ Styles's Overness to 88

Raise Austin Aries's Overness to 86

Raise Bobby Roode's Brawling to 82

Raise Bully Ray's Brawling to 84 Overness to 89

Lower Chavo Guerrero's Charisma to 81

Lower Chris Sabin's Overness to 73

Raise Christian York's Overness to 67 Speed 82

Raise Devon's Brawling to 77

Raise Douglas Williams's Overness to 73

Raise Eric Young's Overness to 76

Raise Hernandez's Overness to 74

Raise Jeff Hardy's Brawling to 72 Speed to 77 Technical to 63 Lower his selling to 87 Overness to 92

Raise Jeff Jarrett's Brawling to 78 Charisma to 86

Raise Jessie Godderz's Overness to 61

Raise Joey Ryan's Overness to 72 Charisma to 79

Lower Joseph Park's Overness to 77

Raise Kazarian's Charisma to 78

Raise Kenny King's Overness to 73

Lower Kurt Angle's Charisma to 91

Lower Magnus's Charisma to 78

Raise Matt Morgan's Overness to 77 Brawling to 77 Charisma to 81

Raise Mr.Anderson's Brawling to 81 Technical to 63 Overness to 84

Raise Samoa Joe's Overness to 86

Raise Sting's Overness to 93 Brawling to 76

Raise Zema Ion's Speed to 82

By the way, obviously a huge thank you for continuing with these updates, Bill. I haven't said it in a while but it's pretty amazing how you're able to put these out every month and have done so for so long.

Anybody else think TNA should be around 85% National now? They've been doing well in arenas around the US and have a dozen stars who are globally recognized. Just a thought, but I feel like 73% is more representative of where they were in 2011.

I'm pretty sure I made a ton of TNA change suggestions last update that haven't been done yet, so I'll hold off.

I mentioned raising their public images around 2/3 months ago, I think 85% is too low, I'd say around 88-90 but regardless it definitely deserves a boost.

WWE stats suggestions:

Raise Alberto Del Rio's stiffness to 50 - his kicks look really good and I feel like 42 is just a tad low since he does a lot of strikes and holds that all look crisp

Raise Antonio Cesaro's selling to 78 - he is better than 73... guy can have a really good psychology-based match with anyone and never seems to under-sell opponent's offense

Raise Big E Langston's over to 69 - The guy has destroyed Kane, Cena, etc. and has been accompanying Ziggler and AJ for a few months now while getting solid crowd reactions

Lower Brock Lesnar's speed to 45 - I haven't seen him do any real speed-based stuff since his return and he's not as quick as he was in even 2004 and 52 is just one point lower than Cody Rhodes who does springboard kicks and Fandango who does flying legdrops and stuff

Raise Christian's speed to 65 - I know he hasn't been wrestling regularly lately but he's still able to do speed-based matches with the younger guys

Raise Dean Ambrose's charisma to 87 - Like the person above me I don't know why it was lowered. He's the main promo guy of The Shield and the segments have been really good, plus he's capable of so much more that he hasn't even displayed yet.

Lower Dolph Ziggler's charisma to 85 - I'm surprised he's so high at 89

Lower Drew McIntyre's charisma to 81

Lower Jerry Lawler's charisma to 88 - I know he's one of the best commentators but he's definitely lost some steps and says a lot of dumb things during commentary. I get that commentary is tough but he's not as charismatic as he used to be.

Lower John Cena's charisma to 94 - I wouldn't class him as "ultra-charismatic" with the level of promos he's been cutting the last few years. He seems forced and cheesy at times. I get he's still ultra-popular and deserves the 99 over, but his actual promos tend to lack something.

Lower Kassius Ohno's speed to 66 - 71 seems a bit high for him

Lower Kevin Nash's charisma to 90 - 94 is really high for the guy's promos

Lower Randy Orton's charisma to 83 - The guy doesn't cut promos on the level of anyone above that and even with his natural charisma it's pushing it

Raise Ric Flair's charisma to 97 - The guy's still one of the best promos in wrestling and has something special that most guys never will

Raise Roman Reigns' over to 78 - Dean Ambrose is 79 and right now Reigns is 73, too far behind his Shield teammate

Lower R-Truth's over to 81

Lower Ryback's speed to 45 and raise technical to 39

Raise Seth Rollins' over to 78 and selling to 87

Raise Shawn Michaels' selling to 92

Lower Sheamus' charisma to 85

Raise Tyson Kidd's speed to 80

Lower Vickie Guerrero's charisma to 82 - another losing battle but come on, her promos and segments aren't that good. She gets booed because she's annoying as shit and usually only shows up to deliver news that pisses off the fans.

Lower Zack Ryder's over to 70 - he's gone down a bit in terms of popularity since his brief US Title reign

Agree with everything except Big E should be 72/73ish overness. Zigglers charisma should be decreased but to 86/87ish he's better than 85.

John Cena is in the Top 5 for charisma IMO, so I believe he deserves atleast 96. Apart from that everything looks good

Lower Randy Orton's charisma to 83 - The guy doesn't cut promos on the level of anyone above that and even with his natural charisma it's pushing it

I always have to come in and defend Randy Orton when it comes to his charisma. No way he should be lower than Daniel Bryan Danielson or Sheamus. He's much more entertaining than both of them. His character is cold and callus. Therefore, he does not show much emotion in his promo's but that's the way it is supposed to be. He does it masterfully. His charisma should be 91-93

He isn't in the 90's but he isn't in the early 80's either, I'd say around 87 would be fair

Thanks Bill,

Add Petey Williams to TNA, here's him announcing it

and it says this on wiki On January 12, 2013, Williams returned to TNA to take part in the tapings of the One Night Only: X-Travaganza special, teaming with Sonjay Dutt in a tag team match, where they were defeated by Christopher Daniels and Kazarian. On March 17, Williams also took part in the tapings of the 10 Reunion pay-per-view, during which he wrestled in a three-way match, where he and Sonjay Dutt were defeated by Kenny King. The following day, Williams teamed with Dutt for the tapings of the TNA Tag Team Tournament pay-per-view, however, they were eliminated in their first round match by Generation Me (Max and Jeremy Buck)

And I don't know much about Indie companies but I'd remove him from LLUSA unless someone who watches it has proof he's still working there

I'd lower Cody Rhodes and Damien Sandow's charisma to around 86. I'd also Raise Eddie Kingston's to around 91.

I think Sandow deserves high 80's. Cody I could see at 83-85

I feel like the speed ladder may be a bit out of whack. Here is my suggestion for it:

Mascarita Dorada - 96

Adrian Neville - 94

Dragon Kid - 93

Jack Evans - 92

Kota Ibushi - 92

Ricochet - 91

AJ Styles - 90

El Generico - 90

Evan Bourne - 90

AR Fox - 89

Rich Swann - 89

La Sombra - 89

Kenny Omega - 89

Sin Cara - 88

Shane Strickland - 87

ACH - 86

Note: If I left a name off it isn't because they deserve higher or lower than above, I felt they are fine as is.

Justin Gabriel should be up in the high 80's tbh

Sin Cara shouldn't be lowered to 88. He should still be in the low 90s. I definitely wouldn't put AJ Styles higher than him... in fact, AJ should be around 88.

I agree Sin Cara 91/92 and AJ Styles 88/89

Had a go at doing some stats for D-Lo Brown & Lei'D Tapa...

D-Lo Brown

Name: D-Lo Brown

Short Name: D-Lo

Age: 42, Birth Month: October

Heavyweight

American

Speaks: Yes

Wages: $45000

Brawl: 72

Speed: 41

Tech: 62

Stiff: 60

Sell: 87

Over: 75

Charisma: 80

Attitude: 96

Behaviour: 94

Tick High Spots, Trainer & Announcer

Finishers: Lo Down (Top Rope), Sky High (Impact)

Written Contract With TNA, Non-Wrestler, Biker, Heel

Add him to Aces n' Eights stable

Alter Egos: D'Lo Brown, Accie Connor, A.C. Corner, Ace Brown, Ace The Animal, Vice President, V.P.

No idea on relationships

Lower his speed and selling a decent amount, other than that his stats look fine.

- Add Hannah Blossom & Holly Blossom to TNA on Open Contracts (Dixie Carter confirmed they'd been signed on an episode of TNA Backstage Pass)

They should be in OVW along with Spud they may have signed but their in development.

Should they be the same as Muhammad Lamal then? Open Contract with both TNA and OVW?

Remove Rob Van Dam from TNA

Source please ^_^

I thought he was going to face Jerry Lynn one last time at X-Travaganza

On March 18, 2013, Rob Van Dam talked in the past-tense about this stage of his wrestling career in an interview with Shelly Martinez, commenting on "life after TNA."

And on Wiki it says 2010-2013 when it usually says would say present instead of the year.

Double post

Raw Spoiler

Don't know if they signed a contract or not but, add Brie and Nikki Bella to WWE

I was debating whether to click or not then I saw who it was and laughed.

Why would you laugh?

I don't think I need to explain why I laughed

Double post

Raw Spoiler

Don't know if they signed a contract or not but, add Brie and Nikki Bella to WWE

I was debating whether to click or not then I saw who it was and laughed.

TNA Spoiler

Remove D'Lo Brown from Road Agents and add him to the active roster as a Heel with the Biker gimmick, overness around 70 and I'm not great at giving stats so someone else will have to do that

Boost Al Snow's overness to 73/74ish

Thanks Bill

Rename the tag team of Fish and O'Reilly to "redDRagon" (per ROH 11th Anniversary preview)

They are also new tag team champions.

Spoiler alert

Is this the same Sam Shaw that won his TNA Gutcheck match/contract? http://www.ovwrestling.com/roster/samshaw

If so, he needs to be a heavyweight.

Yeah it is.

Raise TNA's Public Image to low/mid 90's?

Up Jack Swagger's overness to 87-88ish, and Zeb Coltors overness to 81-83

I agree with keeping it as cocky, if people want it to be Biker then you can easily change it yourself.