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But Batista's charisma should be higher because he did a good promo in 2005, right? Suggesting stats for someone and then immediately saying that you can't be bothered watching matches that would justify the stats she has pretty much instantly invalidates your opinion, in my eyes. As for my trolling comment, it's possible to suggest changes without challenging people to an argument or calling people "marks". Bryan being 5 points above Batista in charisma is stupid because his promos are nothing but average. Batista didn't had any mic time since returning other than saying a few words. You can look at Payback and Bryan's promo and you can see that the guy doesn't deserve more than 80 in charisma. Like I said, I don't care about what she did in NXT because that is irrelevant. If we go by that then up Bryan's technical to 100, brawl to 95 because of his days in ROH.

What did she do to deserve the greatest female of all time? You ain't nothing but a mark.

And the argument of look at her NXT matches are irrelevant to me. I don't care about a random match that she had 10 months ago in Tampa. She's not in NXT anymore. Not wrestling that roster. Not wrestling in front of that small crowd. She is in the big time and is the Divas champion. And so far, is flopping. Is she talentless? No, but she's not going to be the greatest female of all time either.

less trolling? She's the most overrated diva on the roster. She doesn't deserve the stats that she has. She didn't showed anything to deserve them.

Lower Paige's brawl to 48, speed to 36, technical to 43 and charisma to 56. (her marks talked her up like she's the best ever. She's boring. Bland. Her wrestling skills which her marks talked up are average. Nothing about her makes her stand out other than her pale skin and annoying scream) . NOW COME AT ME YOU INDY MARKS!!! Just because she learned her craft in the indyz it doesn't mean that you need to overrate her wrestling skills above every diva on the roster and put stupid numbers for stats.

TNA is just a glorified indy company with a national TV station. Put ROH at Cult - 83 and TNA at National 35. Also, the TV Networks ratings are shit. There's no way that TNA gets more ratings than SmackDown. Why don't we up Syfy's potential audience and drop Spikes?

A nWo one would be cool.

this is like saying that I need to be quiet about how Obama runs Murica and I can't start an argument if I disagree. This is communistic ffs.

for giving me a warning for abusive behavior but to the guy that called me a twat no. at fucking asskissers like Mkpunk hitting the Like button like there's no tomorrow.

You see... this is what i'm talking about. This happens on every damn forum and if you go to let's say Wrestling forum then the mods and admins are in cahoots with users that think that they're special because they paid 10 bucks to be lifetime premium members and are starting to pick fights with the average joe and the ones that didn't paid are getting banned if they're going to reply with something that they don't like. Just like in WWE or any other shit from the world when you're being held down because you don't have money and you don't kiss the right ass.

Nobody criticized him making suggested stat changes, Rich just asked him for his reasoning behind them. He could have suggest other stats. That's how people did in other update threads.

If we go like that then why should Austin or Rock have 100 charisma? Their promos these days aren't on par with the ones in the Attitude Era.

still Bryan isn't better than Batista. We can look at his promos back in 2010 when he was heel and probably the best work of his career. throwing your damn fingers in the air doesn't make you one of the most charismatic guys from the roster. So Austin was all about middle fingers?

throwing your damn fingers in the air doesn't make you one of the most charismatic guys from the roster. I didn't said anything about his speed stat but you and others care enough about this 12 year old tex sim to have arguments with me. Tell me one good promo that he did. Exactly... he's average at the mic and his promos are too.

Because indy marks are going to have a meltdown just like with Punk last month. So charisma is only about mic skills? If that's the case then lower Bryan charisma to 60 or 70 cause he never cut a good promo. on these forums is just like in real life. You have money then you stay one foot forward than the average joe.

Currently Batista is at 81 and Daniel Bryan is at 86. How do you explain that? Batista is one of the most charismatic guys in the roster and of all time and if he wasn't then he wouldn't have been the most over guy in 2005 and draw huge gates. Why should Bryan be 5 points above him? Because he's a overrated indy darling? If I think about it then 88 is still too low for Batista. Orton is more charismatic than Bryan too. Your attitude stinks as long as you're not a donator. There are many donators that have shitty troll attitudes but I don't see you or any other mod saying how their attitude stinks. when did Regal had a match? 2-3 years ago against another indy darling by the name of Dean Ambrose? He's no where near the 90 technical stat.

Getting sick of anybody who comes on this thread and starts picking up fights but they don't do anything for these updates. Why Regal should have technical at 90? He didn't had a match in years and he's 50 years old which means that his prime was 20 years ago.

They didn't had the right stats. What the fuck are you people bitching so much? I didn't see you coming when that Y2Jfan or other jabronies suggested their stats on the last pages.

Lower AJ Styles' wage to $80000 Rename Adam Rose's primary finsher name to the Party Foul (impact) and up his overness to 61. Lower Brock Lesnar's technical to 65. Lower Chris Jericho's technical to 80. Lower Christian's technical to 75. Lower Cody Rhodes' charisma to 82. Lower JBL's speed to 5 and technical to 15. Lower Solomon Crowe's charisma to 82. Lower Titus O'Neill's speed to 19, technical to 23 and up his stiffness to 72. Lower Bo Dallas' speed to 48, technical to 55 and change his primary finisher name to the BoDog (impact). Lower William Regal's technical to 83. Lower Xavier Woods' speed to 70 and technical to 65. Lower Zack Ryder's speed to 54 and technical to 59. Lower The Rock's brawling to 72. Up Bad News Barrett's overness to 80. Up Batista's speed to 16 and charisma to 88. Up Bray Wyatt's brawling to 76 and charisma to 94. Up Randy Orton's charisma to 89. Up Rob Van Dam's charisma to 85. Up Ryback's charisma to 81. Up Rusev's overness to 62. Up Seth Rollins' charisma to 84. Up Slate Randall's charisma to 75.

Misterioso. Actually according to promotion for the next AAA taping he is going to be called Mistico (at least for the time being) so that would be his name. FYI, he couldn't be Misterioso, that is an existing wrestler in the game that is the uncle of Misterioso Jr/II http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2014/0525/576362/beyond-the-ring-update/ actually is El Misterioso.

Misterioso.

Mercury is not the only one that should be removed from the Workers list and added to the Staff list. Byron Saxton, Dusty Rhodes, Finlay, Lawler, Mickey Keegan, Robbie Brookside, Ryan Katz, William Regal, Lilian Garcia and Linda McMahon (why wasn't she deleted from the Workers list and added to the Staff one is beyond me.)

Yeah, insufferable because I hurt Punk marks feelings. He's good (GOD for you) in this era of mediocrity where there isn't anyone who could challenge him besides Cena in the charisma level. But don't you worry because I'll be living this forum where all of the donators get a free pass for trolling and bullying average Joes and after that getting Likes from other asskisser trolls.

Punk marks think that he's the second coming of Steve Austin and don't you dare to say anything about him. The guy is clearly not one of the best when it comes to charisma. He's just a shark of greatness in a sea of mediocrity and that's why they say that he's one of the most charismatic superstars of all time. I don't hate Punk but this is the reality.

Dusty was an American Icon during his prime, his feud with the Four Horsemen in NWA was legendary and he had probably the most unique interview style and charisma. I'm not the only one that said that Punk's charisma should be around that number. He isn't that great like you marks like to think. Like I said in the April update thread, he was good 30 years ago when he was on coke but nowadays he's just a drunk old fool who rambles on the mic. Ric Flair proved at RAW that he isn't THAT good anymore too. Hulk Hogan is more charismatic than Punk and if it wasn't like that then he wouldn't have been able to change the business 2 times and people taking him seriously. Just because he did that whole 'Silverdome' shit at WrestleMania doesn't mean that he isn't one if not the most charismatic superstar of all time. Triple H and Shawn Michaels are at 98 ffs.