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It looks like mostly Dark Elevation, with one appearance on Dark.  I don't really watch AEW, so just going by Cagematch results.

Only had a few minutes to mess around, but noticed some changes that could be made for AEW (not counting the results of their PPV and adding Jeff Jarrett):

AEW notes:
-Remove Zack Sabre Jr.
-rename World Famous CB to Cheeseburger
-add Rhett Titus to Open contract
-add Logan Easton Laroux to open contract
-activate AEW World championship

Beyond notes:
-remove Logan Easton Laroux

I don't follow AEW much, so was just going off cagematch results.  Zack only had one match 5 months ago.  Cheeseburger has been using that name again for a while on AEW and on the indies.  Rhett has had a few matches in AEW now, and Logan has had at least a couple.  Logan hasn't had a match in Beyond in over a year (I don't follow them either, just to be clear).  Also noticed the AEW World Championship was suspended or inactive.

I figure you'll already worked on AEW and NWA PPV results and aftermath as well as the upcoming War Games PPV.  I wish for the best for you, and I've gotten burnt out of wrestling lately too.  Got a subscription to Peacock and watching the 90's stuff again and enjoying it more than modern stuff.

If someone does take over, I can lend a hand, but I wouldn't be good to take over (computer issues and slow internet among other reasons).  Not even sure how many even play EWR anymore, as I come and go every few months myself.  Again best of luck, and hope you have time to pop in once in a while.

Braun Strowman has unsackable ticked, I don't think he should unless there's something I don't know.

As you are probably aware, turn Zoey Stark heel, I guess change her to old school heel, unless something better is available.  I'd also boost her overall some, 24 seems a bit low for someone featured on TV every week.  I also think Nikkita Lyons should be boosted some too for the same reason.  Maybe boost them to 35-40?

Also think Sarray's rating should be boosted some.  She's not featured a lot, but 16 seems really low for her.  Maybe up to 25 or so? I'm just kind of throwing a number out, so if you have better ideas, go ahead.

Same with Ikemen Jiro, I'd probably boost him up to 30, he was featured often for a while. 

This last one isn't a big deal, but I'd probably boost Logan Paul a bit too, 66 is good, but I think maybe around 71 would be more accurate since he did main event a PPV.

It will be sad to see you moving on with the monthly updates, I always liked your approach to these.  I hope someone can take over and do at least one every 3-4 months.

Sounds good.  I was reading something today and in the 80s Showtime actually showed rebroadcasts of Wrestlemania, but yeah I doubt they would show any (that said I don't get why HBO wouldn't show AEW major shows or why they didn't do the same for WCW).  I don't know if National Syndication will ever make a comeback but my local wrestling fed (WLW) has actually branched out to a few networks and have their show on in about 10 or 12 markets from the midwest and the east coast.  While they are still just local networks, it could be a sign that syndication hasn't truly sailed for wrestling.

I tried looking for information on current slogans and taglines for advertisers but I couldn't find too many.  Surprised their isn't a wikipedia for slogans like there is for logos.  So that could take some time.

I visit off and on and haven't checked in a while, thanks for the updates.  I decided to look at the newest one and look over the TV stations.  Is there a set number of channels needed or can some be deleted?  I ask because America One was replaced by YTA TV, which currently carries both Championship Wrestling From Hollywood and Ohio Valley Wrestling.  Also El Rey ceased as a network but is still a streaming platform.  I don't know if you want to keep it but maybe drop Network from the name.  WGN also changed their name to News Nation and I doubt would carry wrestling anymore.  Meanwhile, while ION is still around, they haven't shown wrestling in 8 years, you could probably delete it as well.  While we're at it, E! I don't think ever carried wrestling aside from the reality shows.  In the same sense, I doubt ESPN 3 will be broadcasting pro wrestling events anytime soon.  However on that maybe a simple name change once we learn more about that new streaming service Pro Wrestling TV.  It sounds like something similar to Fite TV.

While I never do too well updating current stats or anything, I'll see what else I can help with.  Is the next update planned to be released before or after Wrestlemania?  No big deal just curious.  Thanks again for the great work.

I don't even know who Saurav is to be honest, but according to WWE.com, he is listed on the NXT roster.

I figured you'd be on top of the NXT renames, so I didn't mention them, plus I don't even know if I know all of them

Wow its been awhile.  Thanks for keeping this up.  I was going to mention that quite a few WWE wrestlers need to be moved to different rosters, but it might make sense to hold off on it until after next month if they still plan on having the draft.  I started a few though, so here is what I found:

Move to Raw split:

Damian Priest, Erik, Jinder Mahal, The Miz, Reggie (Reginald), Slapjack, Eva Marie, and Shayna Baszler.

Move to Smackdown split:

Edge, Shotzi Blackheart, Tegan Nox, Toni Storm.

Move to NXT split:

Saurav.

In other news, a few championships in WWE are outdated, here they are as of today:

WWE Raw Women's: Charlotte

WWE Smackdown's Women: Becky Lynch

NXT Women's: Io Shirai & Zoey Stark

I would also add Randy Orton and Riddle as a tag team RK-Bro.

As far as Coachman, I didn't know he was still there to be honest, but oddly, he's still listed on their roster page.

One last thing, I would move John Cena, Kairi Sane, and Ronda Rousey from any roster split (especially Cena). 

You're doing a great job, just saw a few things that could be fixed and who knows I might have corrupted data and all this is up to date. 

Is he at least your buddy, pal???

This looks promising.  Reminds me when I tried to make one from the same time, except my focus was based more on WCW and started in May with The Big Bang PPV.  I posted about it on here a few years ago but got tired of working on it and was in the early stages.  I can't wait to play this.

Man am I glad to see someone taking the time to make updates.  Once Bill was overtaken I kind of stopped following the site, but got bored and wanted to try it again.  I think it could get interesting next month with all the layoffs WWE made.

Keep up the good work.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/46r4khw4x54gt78/2001_Fusient.zip

I think I did that right.  If not let me know.

After sitting dormant for 2 years, I decided it was best to just pass on what information I had on and let someone else work on it.  It may not seem like much, but I think its a great starting point on working from scratch.  If anyone decides to take it on, let me know, and I will try to help as much as I can.

I was going through some of the wrestlers and noticed a couple that could be removed. Daniel Cross and Darin Waid haven't wrestled to my knowledge in close to a decade, and I think only competed in WLW and possible small indies in the midwest, maybe a short stint in NOAH. I don't think they would be missed if they are removed. If removal is something people don't want to do then their ages need to be updated. I'm not sure on exact age but at the least, they should be upped to 28 or 30 by now. I'm not sure when they were added to the game, but if the info is available, then add the number of years to their age.

I think a few of the other former WLW guys could be removed as well, but need to go through the database to see who all is still in the game. I'd like to see some of their current roster in the game, but haven't seen enough to come up with stats.

While I'm waiting for the next update to make the suggestions, I made a list of the next ones for discussion. I won't add these to the suggestions until there has been time to talk about them.

CM Punk/Jimmy Jacobs
Jeff Hardy/Kirby Mack
Steve Corino/Rapid Fire Maldonado
Sho Funaki/Steve Austin
Sho Funaki/Shawn Michaels
Kevin Nash/Madusa
Mick Foley/Scotty The Hotty
Kazarian/Joey Ryan
Kazarian/Scott Lost
Roadkill/Amy Dumas- Dislike? Curious on that story, is it still the case or worth keeping?
Glenn Gilberti/Raven
Lizzy Valentine/Mickie James
Billy Gunn/Hardcore Holly
Chyna/Mick Foley
Dusty Rhodes/Glacier
Gorgeous George/Nora Greenwald- Loyalty?
Dusty Rhodes/Sonny Siaki
Dusty Rhodes/Jorge Estrada
CM Punk/Johnny Kashmere
Kane/Stevie Richards
Bully Ray/Edge
Devon/Edge
Kane/Rob Van Dam
Matt Cross/Super Dragon-still relevant?
Josh Prohibition/CM Punk
Josh Prohibition/Colt Cabana
Mick Foley/Raven
Chuck Palumbo/Rellik
Rellik/Shawn Stasiak
Rellik/Marco Corleone
Rellik/Mike Sanders
Rellik/Reno
Chris Jericho/Black Dragon- not sure on this one.
Daffney/Devon Storm
Gail Kim/Nora Greenwald
Veronica Caine/Scott Snot
Hardcore Holly/Taylor Vaughn
Kevin Nash/Steve Austin
Marco Corleone/Maven Huffman
Marco Corleone/Kevin Nash
Marco Corleone/Steve Austin
Bull Schmitt/Trevor Murdock
Hulk Hogan/Kevin Nash
Hulk Hogan/Scott Hall
Kevin Nash/Glen Gilberti
Kevin Nash/Mike Sanders
Jeremy Lopez/Tony Mamaluke
Jeremy Lopez/Jimmy Rave
Jeremy Lopez/Kaz Hayashi
Big Vito/Buff Bagwell
Hardcore Holly/Mick Foley
Gillberg/Sting- Dislike?
Gillberg/Mickie James
Devon Storm/David Flair
Perry Saturn/Terri Runnels- is it worthy to keep in?
Chris Jericho/R-Truth
R-Truth/Matt Hardy
Mick Foley/Stacy Keibler
Eric Bischoff/Stacy Keibler
Mick Foley/2 Cold Scorpio
Goldylocks/Chris Harris
Kid Kash/Jazz

At this point this puts me at relationship 1000 out of 7000 plus. As before, some of these could still be relevant, but I think they could be removed.

On a side note I started a new game the other day having removed all the relationships from the game, and while not as long, it still took quite a while to load. So I know the relationships isn't the only thing slowing the start time but it does help removing the ones not needed.

Okay, so before I go onto the next batch, let's update. Out of all the ones I've suggested so far, these are the ones disputed.

Chris Jericho/Dr. Luther
Triple H/William Regal
Joe E. Legend/Rhino
Joe E. Legend/Christian
Daffney/Shark Boy
Steve Austin/Mr. McMahon
CM Punk/Daffney

I'm okay with leaving them in, at the least just for now. That's not to say that others are debateable, but those are the ones listed. Next week if there are no more suggestions for just the ones listed so far (the first 500 listed in the game), I will suggest them for removal on the monthly suggestions board.

I'll wait until then to post the next batch just so there isn't a lot of confusion. I think from here on out I'll go through 500 at a time for suggestions, and then allow time for comments before posting them on the page.

I went through the next 300. Again these were some I spotted, I skipped over ones I were largely unfamiliar with (like the Japanese and Mexican wrestlers). Some will be disputed, and that's fine. These are just my suggestions.

Big Vito/Glen Gilberti
Glen Gilberti/Rellik
Larry Zbyszko/Mr. McMahon
Rena Mero Lesnar/Stephanie McMahon- I'm not sure if there is still a dislike or if its warrented
Hulk Hogan/Edge
Jason Albert/Undertaker
Scott Hall/Savio Vega
Jeff Jarrett/Savio Vega
Sabu/Fidel Sierra
Carlos Colon/Hulk Hogan- I could be wrong, but haven't heard them mention each other in a while.
Bret Hart/Steve Austin- Friends sure but would either be pissed if other was fired? Plus I think most retired wrestlers friendships should be removed.
Hulk Hogan/Steve Austin
Mr. McMahon/Steve Austin- its listed as friendship, at this point it should be removed or made loyalty. They might be upset with each other currently but if they are really friends, they'll get over it.
2 Cold Scorpio/Steve Austin
Hulk Hogan/Sean Waltman
Shane Douglas/Road Warrior Animal-?
JT Smith/Paul Heyman- Doubt Heyman would walkout over JT being fired.
Mikey Whipwreck/Paul Heyman
Paul Heyman/Stevie Richards
911/Paul Heyman
Goldberg/Hulk Hogan
Bret Hart/Hulk Hogan- Do they still hate each other, if so then keep it in.
Chris Jericho/The Rock
Chris Jericho/Trish Stratus
Chris Jericho/Kane
CM Punk/Raven
Billy Gunn/The Rock
Big Show/Billy Gunn
Rick Steiner/Perry Saturn
Bret Hart/Undertaker
Christian/Trish Stratus
Lisa Moretti/Terri Runnels
Lisa Moretti/Trish Stratus
Terri Runnels/Trish Stratus
Daffney/Shark Boy
CM Punk/Daffney
Brian Kendrick/Daniel Bryan- are they still friends or just when they trained together?
Bobby Eaton/Mick Foley
Brian Christopher/The Rock
Nora Greenwald/Princ Iaukea
Mick Foley/Mikey Whipwreck
Mick Foley/Shark Boy
JBL/Mideon
Lodi/Raven
Lodi/Perry Saturn
Lollipop/Ron Harris- Loyalty? I don't know the story so I could be wrong.
Lizzy Borden/Hardcore Homo Angel
Justin Credible/Tony DeVito

For the most part people like Mick Foley and Nora Greenwald are usually referred to as really nice and I've never heard a negative thing about (besides Flair and Foley but they made up), so most of their friendships could be removed I think, with a few exceptions. I included JBL and Mideon because I'm not sure the other would stick their neck out if they were fired. I kept Undertaker and Mideon in (though both are semi-retired wrestlers that could do without some relationships in game) because I feel Undertaker would take exception to quite a few guys being fired. As always disagreements are fine, I think discussions will help. If nobody disputes any, the ones not disputed I will suggest on the monthly one later in the month (in this case, I'd likely hold off until next month).

500 down, 7,122 left to go through. It might take a while.

I agree with all of what has been said and the only reason I put so much with the Edge/Christian/Rhino/Joe E. Legend stuff is I started with the first relationship (the relationship listed as #1) and worked my way to #200 and that was just how it appeared. As I stated some of these are disputable but I wanted to make a starting point.

As mentioned from other people, the biggest problem in the game is would say Christian be mad if WWE fired Rhino vs. would he be mad if say ECWA fired him. Even then I still think it comes down to was it a justified firing or not. I will try to work on a new batch (probably the next 200 or so soon, and go from there). There are 7000 relationships in the game, I think even cutting 1000 of them would help a lot. Most of them are outdated anyways. I skipped over Blood Relative ones and Love ones for now and most of the focus is on friendship and dislike. I kept almost 85% of them in, but it is a continuous cycle. The biggest ones as mentioned earlier should be ones retired or older who make one off appearances or such (like say, Vader) that it won't hurt morale bringing him in for one or two shows.

Again, if there are more suggestions put them on here. I felt having a thread like this would help discuss them and then we could present a list on the monthly updates once most are in agreement so it wouldn't take up too many pages on there.

As I mentioned last year and many times before, I feel some of the relationships in the game should be deleted. Over time some of these have either been changed, or no longer apply. One of the biggest to me is the Friendship relationship. I understand some, but for the most part, people won't get drop morale or threaten to quit if some of these wrestlers were fired. Just like in any job, you create friendships with co-workers, some stronger than others. When workers are fired you may be a bit upset, but unless they are best friends with you it is unlikely you would leave too or get to a point where you refuse to work. So I decided to go through and suggest some friendships to be deleted. I'm posting this as a seperated thread because this could be long debated, and I don't feel we should clog up the board for the current months suggestions for something most may not agree with. In some cases I will explain why I picked these. I am going in a random order so none are more important than others.

Christian/Rhino- Friends, but haven't worked in the same company for a while, not booking gigs based on where each other works
Edge/Rhino
Edge/Joe E. Legend
Christian/Joe E. Legend
Rhino/Joe E. Legend
Amy Dumas/Jeff Hardy
Amy Dumas/Shane Helms- Amy rarely does wrestling anymore, I doubt either would have a problem working with each other.
Amy Dumas/Shannon Moore
Amy Dumas/Christian York
Amy Dumas/Joey Mercury
Shawn Michaels/Scott Hall- neither really mention each other these days, more of a friends group, but no anger if a fed fired one or the other.
Sean Waltman/Shawn Michaels
Matt Hyson/Paul Heyman- since Hyson retired, a loyalty isn't too needed, and doubt either would walk out over either being released.
Goldberg/Kevin Nash
Goldberg/Mr.McMahon- besides personal opinion of Goldberg being a jerk, I doubt either would be upset if they worked in the same company.
Goldberg/Steve Austin
Edge/Chavo Guerrero
Edge/Rey Mysterio
Kurt Angle/Chavo Guerrero
Kurt Angle/Rey Mysterio
Dr. Luther/Chris Jericho- who is Dr. Luther? It could be a warrented friendship, but not too likely
Edge/Sean Morley
Al Snow/Mick Foley- No doubt friends, but unless one was wrongly terminated (which isn't a big issue in game) both would understand its only business.
Mick Foley/Vader
Terry Funk/Vader
Steve Austin/William Regal
Mick Foley/William Regal
Triple H/William Regal
Marty Jannetty/Shawn Michaels
Goldberg/Booker T
Goldberg/The Rock
Shane McMahon/Steve Blackman
William Regal/U-Gene


I'm just stopping there for now. There are many more, but I just wanted to get the ball rolling. I understand many of these will be disputed, but I think a lot would fall under "Business Friendships". In which case, in the wrestling business, wrestlers come and go often, rarely do friends want to leave with them.

I think many retired wrestlers could have a lot of their friendships removed (with some exceptions of course), especially the ones who haven't wrestled regularly in the past decade. I know this will take time, but I think if we clean this up, it could really get people back into the game, as the load time when the game first begins is getting crazy long.

Okay, then that one should be added. I admit, I don't think no new ones should be added, but not every love one should be added just because they are dating.

On that note, I am starting a thread on suggestions for deleting some of the relationships in the game, to clean it up some.

WWE

Add Uhaa Nation to development (rename him to Sesugh Uhaa)

Make Goldust and The Miz Midcarders (Over down to 78 for both).

Make Ryback (Over up to 85), Rusev (Over up to 87) and Mizdow (Over up to 83) Upper-Midcarders.

ROH

Add El Patron, Main Eventer, Old School Face.

Add ODB, Midcarder, Fun Drunk.

Relationships

- Add a love relationship between Davey Richards and Angelina Love.

- Add a love relationship between Bram and Charlotte.

- Add a love relationship between Aiden English and Shaul Guerrero.

- Add a love relationship between Dean Ambrose and Renee Young.

I don't have stats in front of me, but 78 seems a bit high for Goldust, I'd go to 73, but 75 would be ok.

I don't think Miz should be midcard, upper is good, he is featured most if not every week.

El Patron is in a lot of companies (not sure how many is in game), but I'm not sure he is in ROH regular enough compared to other feds to be in ROH. If he has a slot open, then I agree.

ODB I don't think is going to be in ROH anymore, it seemed like her match with Maria was a one-off. I could be wrong, I haven't read spoilers, but I haven't heard her mentioned on TV as of late.

I'm not a big fan of adding new relationships. I know it keeps it more real to life, but it also becomes a pain when they split, as most seem to do. It also takes long enough for a game to start because of relationships, 4 more may not seem like much, but more don't need to be added unless they get married until some of the older relationships are deleted that aren't needed anymore.

I know all these are subjective, but these are my thoughts. I like the rest of them though. I usually agree with most of your suggestions.

ROH Notes:

Remove The Decade as a stable as it is now just Adam Page and BJ Whitmer.

I wouldn't remove The Decade as they recently added Colby Corino into their group. I'm not sure on his stats but he should be added to the game (unless I missed him), and added to The Decade. I would also add a blood relative relation between Colby and Steve Corino (despite my just prior statement of too many relationships).

I'm just curious, are less people playing the game or what? Usually there are pages of updates, now its not even a page. I know a lot were arguments, but it seems a lot of times stuff isn't being posted. I'm hoping to play when the next update is out, but was just wondering. I would have to see the stats and what has been updated before I could make suggestions, so I can't make any suggestions.

Wait, I do have one, remover CJ Parker from WWE.

I also need to look at the Japan stuff, and see who's in the game, but I do have some suggestions for that, I'll let you know. Good job Bill, you deserve much more praise than you get.

I like that one, but is there a way to move the diamond in the A's? Putting them in the center I think would look better than bulging out of one side.

You can delete Heather Savage from the game, she passed away over the weekend as a result of a car accident.

Also tick trainer for Taiji Ishimori. He has been helping Tom Prichard, Bobby Eaton, and Harley Race at Race's Wrestling Camp.

According to cagematch he wrestled a couple times in January of 2013. That is more recent than some still in the game. I think non-wrestler would work fine, he could pop up at some indy event if the money was right I'm sure.

There's two of them. Sorry they aren't too good, I haven't done any in a while and still never mastered it too well.

I think their point is he is still with NJPW and until he shows up at AJPW he should stay in New Japan.

I do agree on the gimmicks though. If they are in the game it doesn't matter if they are retired or not I think gimmicks should be updated because they could always come back.