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Fun fight. Carano vs. Cyborg is an incredibly intriguing match. I pray by that point that women's fights will be made 5 minutes per round.

Ah. Should've been watching as well as listening . I've seen more Fedor on this show than any EliteXC fighter...

Anyone else's sound keep cutting out? I'm watching on the HD channel.

It depends on whether or not the novelty of Kimbo Slice alone is still enough to hold people's interest. It very well may be. But, if I was only a casual fan, I probably wouldn't bother with this show without Shamrock and the big main event.

If this hurts the rating, which it very well may, and this show does poorly, EliteXC is done for. CBS/Showtime won't buy into it, and the CBS deal will be cancelled. This is make or break, and thanks to the guy who headbutted Ken, it's looking like break.

MPH is right, plus Frank hasn't been training, Seth has. And he would have a weight disadvantage against Kimbo.

OK, sorry for making another post about it, but here's the latest from Meltz's play-by-play:

From mmajunkie.com Damn. I was really looking forward to this, too. Well, for Elite's sake, I hope there's some opponent for Kimbo that's halfway-decent. Otherwise...it's done, Gus.

OK, I'm pretty sure this should go in this thread. Meltz is now saying this: Here's a question, can anyone think of a time when a main event was in jeopardy like this 2 hours before the show started?

My god. What a bad ass.

R.I.P. EliteXC. http://mmajunkie.com/news/12936/ken-shamro...e-to-injury.mma

Ha, where can I find that? Check out Dana's UFC blog: http://youtube.com/watch?v=uRnxj3UlnmQ

Why? And just what other fighters deserve title shots in the Heavyweight division? And if they do, would they be marketable? It's all about MONEY. UFC is a BUSINESS. No shit, no need to say it like you're talking to a moron. Sure, UFC is a business and about money, but it is also a sport. This has always been a sport, from day 1. Right now Dana is doing with Lesnar what he snarled at Elite doing with Slice. I apologize if I offended you, but from your original post, it seemed as if you didn't understand how MMA promotions make money. If you have a fight like this in the making you need to sacrifice some of the 'pure sports' aspects. For example, Fabrico Werdum vs. Couture would perhaps be more legitimate from a sporting sense, but from a business and interest level is far, far, far, far beneath Lesnar vs. Couture. Therefore, anyone who would run Werdum vs. Couture, when the Lesnar fight is RIGHT THERE, is an idiot. Especially considering Randy's age. And, as everyone else has pointed out, Brock is far more legit than Kimbo Slice. Brock has actually competed with serious competition. Kimbo has yet to really fight anyone who, on paper, would pose him a serious threat (though Thompson almost had him beat). Just look at the IFL. MMA fights, by themselves, don't sell. If they did, they wouldn't need countdown shows and charismatic fighters.

Why? And just what other fighters deserve title shots in the Heavyweight division? And if they do, would they be marketable? It's all about MONEY. UFC is a BUSINESS.

Nah, this is big to everyone except the Sherdog morons who scream 'FEDOR FEDOR FEDOR'. This fight will be far bigger than Couture/Fedor would be. Sadly for UFC, I think it's official that no one cares about any shows from then until now including this next season of TUF.

http://www.f4wonline.com/content/view/6567/124/ Lesnar vs. Couture?! Oh heck yeah~! EDIT- And holy shit about Halifax being on that list....maybe now UFC will come here ()

Why do I have a feeling that the budget for this game was really, really low?

Is it wrong that I really, really, really want to see that fight?

Affliction was Edwin Dewees EliteXC was Antonio Silva, current Heavyweight Champion

What a fun show. Probably the best MMA show I've seen all year. Every match I enjoyed and cared about, something rare for UFC these days. My predictions...eh. Could've been better. God damn prelim guys I've never heard of

*Welterweight Championship Bout: Georges St. Pierre © vs. Jon Fitch - TKO, Round 3 Brock Lesnar vs. Heath Herring - TKO, Round 1 Kenny Florian vs. Roger Huerta - TKO, Round 2 Rob Emerson vs. Manny Gamburyan - Submission, Round 1 Jason MacDonald vs. Demian Maia - Submission, Round 2 PRELIMINARY CARD Luke Cummo vs. Tamdan McCrory - Unanimous Decision Dan Evensen vs. Cheick Kongo - Unanimous Decision Razak Al-Hussan vs. Andre Gusmao - TKO, Round 2 Steve Bruno vs. Chris Wilson - Unanimous Decision Jared Rollins vs. Ben Saunders - Submission, Round 1

Early ratings for last night's EliteXC from Bryan Alvarez:

That's what got me. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

OK, but what are the video packages that air before every UFC fight on the main card with the guys hyping the fight? That's the kind of thing I'm talking about, getting the people hyped for the fight. If you just throw two dudes out there and say "Let's get it on", no one will care. If there are fighters people know and care about, they will get into the fights. Looking at this card, there are no fights anyone but the hardcores will care about, with the dubious exception of the main event, as none of these guys (well, perhaps Nick Diaz) have been established on previous shows. When you speak of a Countdown show, I sort of agree, but it would be much more difficult for EliteXC to get a countdown show due to the fact that CBS would probably never air one and on Showtime, it would get crap ratings, rendering it pointless. With UFC it's a lot easier, as Spike caters to them. Plus, UFC has an established legacy, with fighters with extensive histories and reputations. With the exceptions of Kimbo and perhaps Gina Carano, EliteXC has none of that and are a relatively new company. This greatly increases the importance of hyping your fighters as something special. Otherwise, why bother with EliteXC when you can just watch UFC?