Taxation is Theft

On 2/25/2017 at 03:13, MDK said:

Is Daytona 500 miles of turning right?

Yes, if you watch it in a mirror.

Who's Gonna Win Daytona? A 12 Step solution to all of your '500 questions.

40 cars this year. I will make a statement and eliminate the driver(s) that it applies to.

1. No non-chartered teams. Goodbye DJ Kennington, Corey LaJoie, Brendan Gaughan, Elliott Sadler
2. No rookie has won since 2011. Goodbye Ty Dillon, Daniel Suarez, Erik Jones
3. No "non-parent" team. Goodbye Cole Whitt, David Ragan, Michael McDowell, Matt DiBenedetto, Landon Cassill, Joey Gase, Michael Waltrip, Jeffery Earnhardt, Chris Buescher, AJ Allmendinger, Ryan Blaney, Martin Truex, Aric Almirola

There is half the field. Lets keep going.

4. Know what a dying team looks like? Check out Roush Fenway. Ooh! Richard Childress Racing, too. Goodbye Trevor Bayne, Ricky Stenhouse, Austin Dillon, Ryan Newman, Paul Menard
5. Nobody I like because fuck you Steve. Goodbye Kevin Harvick, Clint Bowyer, Brad Keselowski, Kyle Busch
6. Nobody without SOME KIND of story going on, media fabricated or otherwise. Goodbye Matt Kenseth, Joey Logano, Kyle Larson, Kasey Kahne
7. Danica Patrick. She is Danica Patrick. Goodbye Danica Patrick (holy shit. how did she last this long?)

Six left. I can go case by case from here.

8. Stewart-Hass has switched to Ford this season. They have been quick all week, but to win the first race of the year in an entirely brand new to you car is a bit of a stretch. Even with the series' title sponsor on the car. Goodbye Kurt Busch

9. The story of Dale Earnhardt Jr. winning in his first race back from a serious concussion would be far too good and NASCAR only fixes qualifying which leads me to Chase Elliot. NASCAR's golden boy. He inherited Jeff Gordon's car. Family lineage almost as deep as Jr's. Good kid with a bright future. However, he has been shoved so far down the fans' throats that we have shat out NASCAR's undigested arm. Again, the story is too perfect. Goodbye Jr. and Chase

10. Nobody has won consecutive 500's since Sterling Marlin in 1994 and 1995. That shoudn't change on Sunday. Plus, fuck that guy. Goodbye Denny Hamlin

11. Jamie McMurray. Bad fast all week, crazy aggressive in his qualifying race. He either will win the whole thing or pull the pin on a massive crash. I'm leaning towards the latter.

12.

3 hours ago, Gazz said:

Tyrell fade away?

Tyrell are now Mercedes. Tyrell -> BAR -> Honda -> Brawn -> Mercedes.

I know that Tyrell has "continued" but they were at one time a solid front runner. Before BAR bought them out their results steadily declined though. Could that sane fate be waiting for McLaren is what I meant.

So McLaren goes from looking a bit like the silver arrows to a bit like Arrows.

I'm a little too young to remember but is this what it was like watching Tyrell slowly fade away?

And if no clear winner emerges from all of this, a two-man sack race will be held on consecutive Sundays until a champion can be crowned.

NASCAR: The Chase, the anointment of Chase Elliot, and phantom cautions. Also, Joey Logano.

NFL: Steeler fans.

Updates on the update?

Fair enough. Your scenario, your call.

I went through the workers aged 56 and over and came up with this list via cagematch and wikipedia.

Comedy Central (bits on Tosh don't count)

ESPN hasn't aired wrestling since GWF in.. 1992?

ESPN 2 has never aired new, first run wrestling

HBO never aired it?

Showtime never aired it?

TBS 2001.

TNT ^^^^

vh1 MAYBE they ran Hogan's celebrity wrestling dealie?

If we need to keep them, ok. I notice that some of the owners are British promoters. Keeping with that, maybe change them to British networks?

Yall's mileage may vary on all of the following:

I would wipe Altar Egos. "Alter-egos allow you to keep track of former gimmicks, and also alternate spellings of names." -Adam Ryland Thats what the notepad is for, IMO.

I think that guys like Edge, Christian, D-Bry etc should have their physical stats gimped. If a guy has retired because he can never bump again, why keep him in shape to work a match?

If only Ryan Newman had won the championship last year. This chase format is designed to help eliminate what he almost did.

Going through that pissing contest on page one gave me the chortles.

Anyway, I'm actually on board with lowering flair's charisma. I can't remember a truly great promo other than that worked shoot on carlito since WCW. How's.....88 sound?

change Matthew Justice name to Matthew Hannan

Why?

MFW EWB thinks nascar ends with Daytona.

After last week I have a new found hatred for Kurt Busch. Blaney was running at or near the front almost all day only to get jobbed with 4 to go. Total bullshit.

I can get stats for everyone on the PWO roster who isnt already in the game and keep it updated to an almost sickening extent.

Hickory is in North Carolina. Its .363 miles. (smaller than Bristol) Busch raced there until 1998 or so.

was this the track that was just one big circle basically? Whatever that track was I loved it because it was so different.

lol. If you look at the track, there are defined straightaways. However, when you watch the cars go around the track, it does look like a big circle. Buddy Baker called it once while announcing a race from there. They arent straights. Theyre turns three and six.

@Slogger: Good looking out. That was the race Mark Martin pulled into the pits a lap early or something.

So I guess Stewart won the Nationwide race. Didnt see a second of it. Anything good happen?

Hickory is in North Carolina. Its .363 miles. (smaller than Bristol) Busch raced there until 1998 or so.

>good Canadian tennis player

>only 20

>glaring holes in his game

>good

>holes in his game

wat?

My theory on why NASCAR decided to change the points system this year is because of Jimmie Johnson winning the championship 5 years straight. And that's a problem because the reason he won it isn't because he's a uber, hot-shit, Richard Petty or Dale Earnhardt level driver, but because the quality of drivers in the series has gone down the toilet during the past decade.

NASCAR used to be more exciting, because back when it was still the Winston Cup series, you had a lot of competitive drivers as well as drivers with personalities. Now you have younger drivers, which is not a bad thing, but not a lot of personalities and not a lot of competitive talent, either. I don't have favorite drivers so much as I have drivers I hate to see win (Can't stand either of the Busch brothers, for instance).

The one thing I wish NASCAR would do? Either get rid of the road course races OR stop teams from substituting a road course specialist fans don't give a shit about for their regular driver during those races. (If they dumped one of the two, I'd rather they keep Watkins Glen and dump Sonoma. I don't like the Sonoma course and that race is usually boring as hell)

Your second paragraph was the answer to your first. NASCAR is boring today because the drivers, just like the tracks are all the same. If you put a Johnson quote against a Logano quote against a Kenseth quote, would any of us be able to tell the difference? No. Why? Because personalities scare sponsors. Which leads me to....

You bitch about a lack of personality yet hate the Busch boys? If wrestling taught us anything, its that a strong heel can sell tickets on the hope that someone will punk his ass out. NASCAR was missing that for years. They needed someone that the fanbase could collectively say "I hate that guy enough to pay to watch someone put his ass in the wall." about. Kurt can be that polarizing guy at times but Kyle Busch is the one. Hell, I'm a huge fan of his and theres times id love to see him get his.

Lastly, I agree and disagree with your stance on road course events. There should be more, not less. The Nationwide series runs on Circuit Gilles Villeneuve in Montreal. They go to Road America. They ran in Mexico someplace. Move those tracks up to the cup level. However, I do agree about Infineon. Fuck that place.

If anything, one of my biggest complaints was ... seeing repeat races at similar style tracks.

Daytona, Charlotte, Bristol, Darlington, Talladega, and Richmond should have two dates each. Every other track should only get one. Also, bring back North Wilkesboro, Hickory, and Rockingham.

@jaywhyte: 1992. Going into Atlanta, Kulwicki, Elliot, Davey Allison, Kyle Petty, and Harry Gant all had a shot at leaving with the championship. If not for Ernie Irvan, Allison probably would have won the whole thing.

@naiwf and Slogger: I think David Green won a Busch title in 1994 without winning a race.

Not sure how well this will fly here but lets give it a go..

After the #23 car of Kurie Busurray won the Bud Shootout, a mess of changes have been made to the cars air intakes. What does this mean for the qualifying races Thursday and the Daytona 500 on Sunday? Your guess is as good as mine. Discuss!

add (Fat) Matt Hardy to Immortal

Not so fast on this one. Was it ever stated that Matt is joining Jeff?

Is it just me that can't find guys like Johnny Gargano, Vin Gerard and Kenny King? Is there any reason why?

Yrs. It is just you. Look in CHIKARA for Gargano and Gerard. King is in ROH.

Wheres Ron Artest when you actually want him to beat a fan?