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Southampton 3-0 Brighton (Sat 3pm)
Wolves 0-2 Liverpool (Sat 3pm)
Watford 0-6 Man City (Sat 5.30pm, Sky)
Leeds 1-0 Brentford (Sun 2pm)
Aston Villa 1-1 Leicester (Sun 4.30pm, Sky)

3 minutes ago, 9 to 5 said:

It's on sale now at £4/75, and the DLC is cheap too. I have double dipped to get this. Now, to find mods and all the wrestlers...

Shouldn't take more than 2/3 years working 9 to 5!

24 minutes ago, damshow said:

So if Benfica beat Dynamo Kiev and Barcelona fail to beat Bayern they're crashing out in the group stages.

And they're 7th in la Liga thanks to a 1-0 win via pk n their last match. They've lived better days.

Arsenal 2-0 Newcastle (Sat 12.30pm, BT)
Norwich 0-2 Wolves (Sat 3pm)
Brighton 1-0 Leeds (Sat 5.30pm, Sky)
Brentford 1-3 Everton (Sun 2pm, Sky)
Chelsea 0-0 Man Utd (Sun 4.30pm, Sky)

Leicester 1-1 Chelsea (Sat 12.30pm, BT)
Burnley 2-0 Crystal Palace (Sat 3pm)
Norwich 0-2 Southampton (Sat 3pm)
Liverpool 1-0 Arsenal (Sat 5.30pm, Sky)
Man City 3-0 Everton (Sun 2pm, Sky)

35 minutes ago, LittleDaniel said:

i have seen ian mackaye a couple times! not performing or anything, he was just still going to dc punk shows when i was living around there

 

not that he was rites of spring but like if you like them you presumably like fugazi too!

Embrace (also featuring Ian MacKaye) would be a better comparison, I think. They were quite similar in style. Of course Fugazi shared a member or 2, but their music went a slightly different route. In the end they were all part of the same DC post hardcore scene, I know. I just feel since Fugazi tried doing different stuff, Embrace and RoS fans may not necessarily be fans of Fugazi, although they may be, obviously.

Anyway, I loved both of those (Embrace and Rites of Spring). I also like Fugazi, just not as much, despite them being obviously more successful and usually considered more influential than the other 2.

Man Utd 1-1 Man City (Sat 12.30pm, Sky)
Crystal Palace 0-0 Wolves (Sat 3pm)
Brighton 3-0 Newcastle (Sat 5.30pm, BT)
Everton 3-3 Tottenham (Sun 2pm)
West Ham 1-2 Liverpool (Sun 4.30pm, Sky)

6 hours ago, VerbalPuke said:

So...concert tickets are suddenly outrageous. Like more than usual. 

Bikini Kill was looking at 68 dollars each? 75 for Circle Jerks? 125 for Gang of Four (sold out anyway). What the fuck is going on here? 

Edit - Oh nice, I found a website with Gang of Four tickets, and they weren't marked way up. I'm not trying to be a cheap skate, but seriously I feel like those prices above are getting into stadium rock territory (of course I then noticed Rage Against the Machine was like 175). 

Edit 2 - Ok, so apparently I just found some shady ass ticket website because I'm now seeing Circle Jerks are like 30 bucks a piece, which works for me. So I ended up buying Gang of Fours, and will probably get Circle Jerks and Bikini Kill tickets eventually. 

Man, I got a really nice lineup of shows now. So far it'll be Murder by Death, Human Impact (with Child Bite!), William Elliot Whitmore, Gang of Four, Henry Rollins (spoken word thing), and likely Circle Jerks and Bikini Kill. 

I like how it went from highly unlikely to definitely going in a matter of minutes. 

I have actually listened to the 1001 songs you have to listen to before you die. All of it thanks to you.

I'd never find the will power to do it on my own.

So, even if the late 00s weren't exactly great for me, I had a great time listening to those hits from other eras/decades. Thanks a lot for all of this. *Thumbs up*

16 minutes ago, Szumi - A Polack said:

They've also been pining for Xavi to come in and "restore the Barca principles" or something, and by all accounts are set to get their wish 

That's been the goal for a while now and apparently he'll be the next manager. Sergi, Barcelona B manager will be in charge for a while until Xavi is official.

Xavi's demands, according to an article I read a while ago, were, he would need to start a season from the very beggining and he would only do it if Piqué, Jordi Alba, Busquets and Sergi Roberto weren't in the team.

None of these demands will be met if he starts now, but apparently it doesn't matter anymore. 

7 minutes ago, Adam said:

Bayern Munich meanwhile suffered their biggest loss since 1978 last night - 5-0 to Borussia Monchengladbach in the DFB-Pokal.

It was their full first team as well - Neuer, Pavard, Upamecano, Hernandez, Davies, Kimmich, Goretzka, Gnabry, Muller, Sane, Lewandowski.

And Bayern just beat Benfica 4-0 in Europe and Barcelona had lost 3-0 to Benfica a month ago.

Imagine if Borussia M'Gladbach played Barcelona! 

On a more serious note, most Barça fans seem to be really happy to know Koeman's gone. Personally, I think it would have been difficult for any manager. However I do feel they have some really talented kids that will bring them back to the top in due time. Unfortunately for Koeman he joined the club at the worst possible time.

Leicester 1-1 Arsenal (Sat 12.30pm, BT)
Newcastle 0-2 Chelsea (Sat 3pm)
Tottenham 3-2 Man Utd (Sat 5.30pm, Sky)
Norwich 1-2 Leeds (Sun 2pm, Sky)
Aston Villa 1-2 West Ham (Sun 4.30pm, Sky)

7 hours ago, Hobo said:

I will always remember when souness signed Mark Pembridge, Steve Harkness, Dean Saunders and Michael Thomas while managing Benfica.

Also Scott Minto, Gary Charles and Brian Deane!

3 hours ago, Baddar said:

I caved.

13 hours. Could have been worse. 

4 minutes ago, damshow said:

I'm sure FIFA know that nobody wants it and know that they can still make it happen by offering a ton of concessions and counting on the multitude of smaller confederations to help make up the gap in voting support.

Not saying it won't go ahead but most smaller confederations aren't recognized by FIFA and won't have any saying in this. Unless you actually meant CONCACAF, AFC, CAF and/or OFC. Unless you meant something else?

Crystal Palace 1-1 Newcastle (Sat 3pm)
Southampton 2-1 Burnley (Sat 3pm)
Brighton 1-1 Man City (Sat 5.30pm, Sky)
Brentford 0-2 Leicester (Sun 2pm)
Man Utd 2-3 Liverpool (Sun 4.30pm, Sky)

5 hours ago, Lineker said:

FM08 was perfection. The only one that came close to touching it for years thereafter was FM11.

I really liked both of these. I didn't mind those in between but I kept playing 11 up to 14 and still remember how bad FM12 felt.

I started with the first italian league version of Championship Manager. One of my dad's friends from when I was a kid fixed computers. It's all I ever knew about him. Sometimes he had to fix ours, and he would bring me games he'd copied from other people's PCs. He brought me every single pc game I played from 1988 to around 1995/96.

It was this one:

Then I had the 96/97 and 97/98 versions (the second one was the first CM you could run 3 leagues simultaneously).

I played it non stop (even more so than the 01/02 version) during my football obsessed years up to 01/02. I only had one more up to FM06. Can't remember which but didn't play it too much. From that moment on, I was already working so I could get it every year and did so up to FM14. Then I stopped again because I didn't play it enough so it was kinda pointless to get new versions I'd play half a season and quit. I restarted in 2018 I think? The game has changed a lot, and there are loads of new features, but to be fair, most of the stuff that has been added lately is pointless to me. I was ok with how the game looked back in FM14. I like the 3D even if it's far from perfect.

Prior to that, I played this absolute classic:

5 hours ago, Adam said:

00/01 was my first one too...I think we got it as some sort of co-promotion with the Telegraph!?

My dad had extensively played CM3 and 98/99 (unless they're the same one) so I had played and think even completed a season on CM3, but I was quite young so didn't really know what I was doing. 00/01 was the first one I really got stuck into and knew what was what with, but 01/02 just took it to another level and I was still seriously playing it into my 20s.

The only other subsequent edition that I enjoyed was FM08, which I must've poured months of my life into as a teenager. That probably perfected the genre for the time period for me, and anything since has drifted away from what I loved about the series. The 3D engine and boring meetings mechanics rather spoiled it all and I struggle to get into them anymore.

Yeah. CM3 and 98/99 are the same game.

Aston Villa 0-0 Wolves (Sat 3pm)
Southampton 0-2 Leeds (Sat 3pm)
Brentford 0-4 Chelsea (Sat 5.30pm, Sky)
Everton 0-0 West Ham (Sun 2pm, Sky)
Newcastle 1-1 Tottenham (Sun 4.30pm, Sky)

Draft day sports too. They do basketball, baseball and football.

1 hour ago, Bobfoc said:

There's a game called Football Mogul that seems to be less in-depth than Football Manager.

Definitely less in depth. I've played it in the past. It was also the first baseball manager game (Baseball Mogul) I played many moons ago. Once I found OOTP I never played mogul. Mogul is an option but there are better alternatives I think.

I think I should have 15 points? I had 14 and got West Ham's this week.

Man Utd 2-1 Everton (Sat 12.30pm, BT)
Burnley 1-1 Norwich (Sat 3pm)
Wolves 1-1 Newcastle (Sat 3pm)
Crystal Palace 1-1 Leicester (Sun 2pm, Sky)
Liverpool 1-2 Man City (Sun 4.30pm, Sky

The go to your room of football punishments.

I did mention Sandinista above too. 

4 minutes ago, CLDY said:

I think I've seen Turnstile mentioned either here or the 2021 music thread a few times (probably both?), punks on TikTok say that if you don't like their new album you hate fun and having a good time. So I reckon I'll give it a whirl here in the next little bit. Looking at it on Apple Music and I already dig the cover art..

EDIT: To add to the discussion above, I think Black Flag is one of the best examples of that. By 1985 or so they were practically a doom metal band. 

Might have been me. I mentioned Turnstile's new album in the AOTY discussion.

However, I don't share the "you hate fun" sentiment. If you don't like their new album, you just don't like their new album. 

There are a few.

A classic example is Rancid as you probably know. Their first records were pretty basic 90s punk rock (Let's Go maybe not as much, but still), And out come the wolves had a clear the Clash influence mixed with what they were already doing that basically became what most people think as the typical Rancid sound. Life Won't Wait was written in cooperation with many jamaican reggae/Ska artists and Vic Ruggiero and the Dirty Reggae/Ska scene in New York, which gives a distinct 60s ska feel to many songs in the album and they immediately follow that up with Rancid 2000 which is by far their most Hardcore album. From that point on, it goes back to what it was prior to their last 2 albums, albeit a bit more polished and poppier but at least this 4 album sequence is really cool.

Another example is Propagandhi. Their sound was very simple fat-wreck style in the 90s/early00s and changed to the technical metal-influenced punk rock they do now.

In the case of Bigwig, it's basically whatever Tom Petta wanted to do. The original lineup wasn't there anymore. In fact, the original bass player actually plays in a ska-punk band in NJ. He still does pretty much the same thing.

Reclamation, their last album, was Tom Petta with a different "backup band" and they played a different style. I think this change was more relevant and unique than the first one you say, because bands playing ska-punk in 1997 because of the third wave boom and suddenly playing pop-punk in 1999 are a dime a dozen.

As for classic punk rock/hardcore bands who've changed a lot, Black Flag is an example we've discussed somewhere n these boards. The Clash is another. London Calling was nothing like 1977 and Sandinista was nothing like either. Technically all those styles are under the umbrella of punk rock, but their shows usually attract completely different crowds.

Before I forget again...

Chelsea 1-0 Man City (Sat 12.30pm, Sky)
Man Utd 2-1 Aston Villa (Sat 12.30pm)
Leeds 0-2 West Ham (Sat 3pm)
Brentford 0-4 Liverpool (Sat 5.30pm, Sky)
Arsenal 1-1 Tottenham (Sun 4.30pm, Sky)