Paint Shop pro problems

[Crybaby Bunting]

Hello there, i'm looking for some help with creating rectangles that have rectangles inside them transparent. Think of the NWO logo and thats how i'd like to be able to create a rectangle, now i know that sounds like a pretty easy and stupid task, but for some reason i can't figure it out. I can create a black rectangle and a white one inside it, but when i add text and whatnot and go to effects it only uses effects on the text. So somehow i've got to make the program think that the rectangle is some sort of object, so effects can work on it.

So far i can only think of creating a rectangle with a massive border, but how would i make the inside transparent? Someone help me EWB

[Lord Nibbler]

Hmm, not sure I understand. You mean a rectangle like this:

[Crybaby Bunting]

yeah, thats what i was trying to say

so how do you do it?

[Lord Nibbler]

Well this is how I did it:

* Add a new layer

* Use the selection tool to draw out the rectangle you want.

* Flood fill it with the colour you want (black, in my case)

* Go to Selections > Modify > Contract (something like that) and choose how thick you want the border to be.

* Hit Delete to cut out the middle of the rectangle

Sounds more complicated than it is.

As long as you're on a normal raster layer and not the background layer, it should end up like that.

[Legend_Killer33]

I've always tried to figure this out aswell. I'm am going to guess it's pretty much the same process in Photoshop

Edited October 15, 2006 by Legend_Killer33

[K]

These are basic selection questions, I strongly suggest reading some tutorials on things like this. Here's a couple for photoshop.

Drawing Basic Shapes Very easy, you can probably skip this, but whatever.

http://www.myjanee.com/tuts/shapes/shapes.htm

Selection Tools Parts 1, 2 and 3 Basic stuff, but very important. Selection tools, adding and removing from selections, feathering, lasooing, polygonal lasooing.

http://www.voidix.com/selectiontools1.html

http://www.voidix.com/selectiontools2.html

http://www.voidix.com/selectiontools3.html

Smooth Wave Tutorial with an interesting perspective on making curves with the selection tool. Not how I would do it, but it's a good tip to learn.

http://www.adesdesign.net/php/tutorials/ph...smooth_wave.php

Random Noise/Grunge Border Specific Tutorial, but very handy. I use this more than you would think.

http://www.designspot.net/creativespot/tut...8-randomize.php (Good for the NWO-ish border)

More Selection Stuff Also shows off the transform options.

http://www.tutorialstraining.com/cstutoria...eeselection.htm

Rounded Shapes This is how I would have done the wave, but both are good.

http://webmaster.lycos.co.uk/tips/987519890/

Nnn.