Fan-Made Trailers

[Hutch2004]

Green Lantern

This actually looks good. It's very, very well made, and spot on casting! Made me wonder if anyone has seen these before, or if there are any more out there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiZuvJ48MZ0: As good as it looks, I just can't get excited for a Robin movie.

Any other great trailers out there? I know of a few more, but after the truly dreadful ones I've just sat through, I can't take looking for them right now.

[K]

Batman: Forsaken

Batman: Dead End

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOZVp9NFhQE

This is actually the whole film, but it's only eight minutes long. Before Batman Begins and Dark Knight, Kevin Smith once called it "possibly the truest, best Batman movie ever made"

[SeanDMan]

[Momo]

Green Lantern

This actually looks good. It's very, very well made, and spot on casting! Made me wonder if anyone has seen these before, or if there are any more out there:

The Green Lantern one looks pretty decent. I would love to see it with Fillion leading the cast. You have to laugh when you recognise where the clips were taken from though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiZuvJ48MZ0: As good as it looks, I just can't get excited for a Robin movie.

Any other great trailers out there? I know of a few more, but after the truly dreadful ones I've just sat through, I can't take looking for them right now.

Dear god that was awful. It had potential in the beginning, and then slid down a rocky slope so fast that it didn't have time to leave a graze.

Seriously, how many antagonists were there? Spandex robin? Superman and Wonderwoman as well... and add to that, Superman dies.

Really now. >_>

[K]

You have to laugh when you recognise where the clips were taken from though.

Bahaha, Enterprise era Andorians.

[K]

Man, I would watch the shit out of that Grayson thing, especially if it was like a series rather than a one off movie. Need to update the outfit though

and add to that, Superman dies.

Really now. >_>

Not the first time, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Superman

[K]

Triple post, just because I can.

There's a 120 page screen play here...

http://www.untamedcinema.com/screenplay.pdf

Personally I think reading screenplays is boring as sin so I probably won't bother >_>, it might explain why there are so many characters in the trailer though.

[TheBoss]

In the Grayson thingy, isn't the good looking girl Kimberly Page? Surely looks like it is her...

Duh, nevermind, it actually said that in the end credits.

Edited May 28, 2009 by TheBoss

[Momo]

Man, I would watch the shit out of that Grayson thing, especially if it was like a series rather than a one off movie. Need to update the outfit though

and add to that, Superman dies.

Really now. >_>

Not the first time, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Superman

Oh, I know there's been several iterations of the death of Superman. My problem is that he's even in it in the first place.

Batman's death at the beginning was a nice set up, but Superman appearing and dying is a bit too much. I liked the initial premise of the trailer, but it turned quickly from a semi-serious concept into an all out fangasm.

[K]

We need to make someone read that screen play to tell us the context.

[Hutch2004]

I'm reading it now. It starts with a massive gathering of the Justice League, which is a bit too much Fantastic Four for me. Flash, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and Aquaman. And a giant green Lantern-conjured gorilla.

I'll update as I read.

EDIT:

Dick retired as Nightwing after an innocent woman was killed while he tried to protect her.

A coma!? Come on! Dick tries to save a woman deliberately put in danger by Selina Kyle, and gets hit by a car and ends up in a coma for two years. Interesting twist, Joker pleads guilty to Batman's murder. Promising.

A race between Superman and The Flash in a olympic stadium? Why?

Heroin spelt wrong. A little thing, but it niggles. This is decent, but it has the feel of a live action JLA cartoon. The script needs a real polish and a declutter, it's worse than Spider-Man 3 at the moment.

Gordon's an alcoholic. Not sure why. Seems an attempt to ramp up the "darkness" factor for no real needed. The contrast of dark (heroin addicts, Gordon's addiction, escalating hostilities between the US and China) and the light (Dick and his daughter, the Flash/Superman race) just jars. They seem like scenes from entirely different movies.

Barbara Gordon WAS paralysed, but "recovered". See, that makes no sense. Don't reference the continuity if you've already undone it. It has no need other than to crowbar it into the script.

Halfway through, still to find any reason for a two year coma other than providing a "training montage" as Dick learned to walk again. But since he's now doing another training montage (balancing on jungle gyms, running etc) to get back into shape for crime fighting, it serves no purpose. Cluttered and repetitive, it's just too much for not much reason.

Alfred arrives to hand over Bruce's estate to Dick. This has taken two and half years to do, since Batman died. I know Alfred is meant to be nearly 90 in this film, but would he not have done this earlier? Alfred also just used the line "You'll know when the time is right". So Dick's given a bunch of gadgets. It's like they just remembered to throw in some forshadowing for dramatic effect. It jars and really doesn't feel natural. It feels like they went to batcave just for this to happen. There was also a clumsy "You can't even ride a horse" line earlier. Bet he does.

The Riddler is well written, probably the best written character so far. However, The Penguin, Solomon Grundy, Harvey Dent are overkill, even when used in cameos.

Ahhh, the woman accidentaly killed by Dick was Jason Todd's mother. Dick introduced Jason to Bruce. Batman, Robin and Nightwing work together as a team for awhile before Jason is killed. Neat twist. I don't understand how they depart from the canon in a way that makes sense and is interesting like this, and then stick to the comics when it really doesn't make any sense. This could do with a major polish from a professional. The script isn't bad, but it doesn't have any mainstream appeal at all. At the moment, it'd be best made into an animated spin off, like Batman of the Future.

Joker escapes from Arkham. However, he's 72 in this script. Is he really a threat at this point? It's fairly clear he didn't kill Batman, so as far as this film is concerned the worst thing he did was murder Jason Todd, which was about 10 years ago. If you don't know the story, there's no threat. We're meant to feel concerned just because it's Joker, but that kind of name recognition just feels lazy and wasted.

Ooh, Joker kidnaps Dick's daughter. That's more like it.

Dick survives a helicopter crash. Right. The Flash is also a major douche in this script.

.......a douche, but he doesn't deserve to be torched by Dick. Ouch. Bit much.

Joker's cave has loads of traps and a white tiger with green stripes. He's been in Arkham for three years. Did he pay a house sitter? Dick fights and kills the tiger, entirely off screen. I understand the need for low budget and the fact you need to find ways to deal with this, but would that sort of cut not piss the audience off, especially at this point in the movie?

Catwoman's now a good guy? After working for the villain, breaking into Arkham, and indirectly causing Dick to be in a coma for two and half years? And her first act of heroism is to RUN OVER Wonder Woman? What!? "Republican bitch" is a good comeback though.

Superman vs Green Lantern. Now there's a good smackdown. Oh, and Dick's now riding a horse. Surprise! This kind of thing works WHEN IT FEELS NATURAL! This doesn't, at all.

A lion and a giant green elephant? So much for the careful budgeting. Oh, excellent, a trapeze based finale. Just what every great superhero movie needs.

Wow. Gordon killed Batman. It was an accident, but he killed him. Good twist. Not sure it really rings true to the character, but it's a nice ending. Different. Barbara Gordon, dressed as Batgirl, saves the day!

........and an ambiguous, unhappy ending? Eh?

So, Superman doesn't die after all.

Impressions: A decent script. The guy who wrote it clearly knows what he's doing, but this script is crying out for a second person's opinion. It's just full of ideas and screams of a script that has been retooled and rejigged until it doesn't really make any sense any more. It needs decluttered, a better finale, LOTS less characters. I don't even think it needs the Justice League. Superman fits, but since he never really has any conflict with Robin and just spends the film doing what he is told by the Government he doesn't come off well. Having said that, none of the characters do:

Robin: Is wrong about every lead he follows up.

Jim Gordon: Batman's murderer and consumed by guilt, turning to alcoholism.

Barbard Gordon: Does nothing but tell Dick she's going to leave him, the whole film.

Batman: Is dead.

Joker: Confesses to a crime he didn't commit, then is killed by a trapeze wire related accident. Seriously.

Superman: Very similar to his portrayal in Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns. So, he does what the Government tells him, and is tortured by the death of Lois. We never find out what happened to Lois. In DKR's Superman obeys authority in order to maintain his anonimity, and that of the people he loves. Here? Well, he never gives a reason. The JLA are puppets for the US government, with no reason given.

Anyway, lengthy analysis. I'd give the script **, IF it was done perfectly. I'm probably being generous.

Edited May 29, 2009 by Hutch2004

[TheRyno]

Honestly, I'd probably have to support a movie with Kimberly Page wearing tight leather pants on principle alone, no matter how bad it is.