Visionary

So we are not allowed to throw our support behind a player who gets shit whatever he does, even when he plays well? And, at the end of the day, TRB, if you really think that the 4-5-1 was made JUST for Beckham (which I still doubt, but meh).....is it Beckhams fault? No...it's the manager who decided that he was important enough to base his formation around him. A holding player, as many have said before, doesn't need to be able to tackle...and saying Beckham can't tackle is beyond me....fair enough, he doesn't do loads and loads, but he makes challenges, and is an outlet for the defence...which is exactly what a holding player should be. And whatever you say, Gerrard and Lampard can't play good together, as they play too similar a game. You need Beckham and one of them, just to offer up some variation. EDIT: And after re-reading some posts, sticking Carrick in ahead of any of the three (Lampard, Gerrard, Beckham) is laughable, personally. Carrick is good, but not that good. SECOND EDIT: And for those who say Beckham should be stripped of captaincy, who do you replace him with as captain? He isn't the greatest captain, but there is no-one else that I believe can do it either.....you'd be able to tell if anyone could by how they act irrelevant of captaincy, yet no-one seems capable of doing it from what I see. Rooney is the only one who has the passion you need to be captain, it seems, but he's too young and ill tempered. ←

Would you play better currently in a position you were put about 5 times a year, or in a position you played 40 games a year? And you must have never seen a Madri game to say that. When Beckham moved to Spain was when i first found out what a hard working player he is. While for years i was one that thought Beckham was a overrated player (still think some people overrate him but most underrate him nowadays), i can't deny he works hard every game to guarantee a spot in the starting line of that team. He runs after every ball and then builds plays from behind. He's probably one of the least spectacular players with the ball in the team but he does a great job as an anchor back. If you think England's tactic shouldn't have a player in that position is another thing...but remember the position he usually plays doesn't require him to have pace or go past people. ←

Yes Beckham did work hard in being pulled out of position and being somewhere we didn’t want him to be and since moving to Madrid his work rate has dropped considerably. Right-sided midfielder attributes should include pace, going past people, not works hard. A lot of players can work hard and run all day but it doesn't make them a great attacking force, which is what we play Beckham for, not his defensive abilities.

I totally forgot about Carrick, he is an amazing player so that would be perfect.

I personally wouldn't. Gerrard has never been allowed to do for England what he does for Liverpool week in and week out. First he played with Scholes which meant he had to sit and hold and now with Lampard he still doesn't get a full freedom. Gerrard with a holding midfield player would be England’s best bet for the middle in my view.

lol that was great and Mourinho voice is spot on!

Well that was awful. We created little, we didn't look sharp, none of out players did a good job and frankly we didn't deserve anything from the game. It's a sad day when Cole, Wright-Phillips, Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard, Owen and Rooney can't penetrate a defence consisting of a Championship reverse, Aston Villa man, someone I’ve never even heard of and League One player. We needed a high intensity game plan today to really get at the Irish and frankly we tried to play against our strengths and slowly pass it around. Ridiculous when you consider the league that all of these players bar Beckham plays in. Sven was also more than questionable throughout the game, bringing off Wright-Phillips? Owen Hargreaves? Playing key players out of position and with his constant changing confusing even his captain? Letting someone else do the dirty work for him in the shape of McLaren? When we really need Sven what does he do? Bugger all! Brazil! Portugal! And now Northern Ireland! For the highest paid manager in football things have to improve. Why did we deviate from the 4-4-2? Why on earth did we try to play something that we are not use too? Did we need to change? No! 4-4-2 doesn't let us down and Sven seems to think he has to play a fancy formation to make himself look good! He plays one up front so he can keep one player on the pitch and then he changes that so he can play the same guy in a position where tackling is key but yet the Beckham doesn't know the meaning of the word. I think Beckham is good at what he does and may well of been our best player but if you based a formation around Steven Gerrard he'd do the same, or Cole, or Lampard. We have some many World Class players now that we don't need to accommodate Beckham and if he doesn't fit to the plan then drop him, show some damn balls Sven! Beckham is good at what he does but being a good passer and freekick taker isn't enough to make you World Class.

That fact that Man Utd are seeded first and Chelsea aren't is ridiculous in my opinion. I mean Chelsea came second in the prem above Utd two years ago and won it last year while reaching the semis two years in a row too. Man Utd I believe have won one FA Cup in that time period?

Superstar voice overs? Crap! That probably means limited season mode. Seriously just give us that nice stamina system, a non linear season mode with replay value and a CAW mode where you can actually make realistic looking wrestling and i'll be happy. Seriously last years CAW mode was terrible because all the patterns where flowers and stuff, great if i want to create a hippy but i don't i want to create a bad ass wrestler!

Football Manager is the best current one as it's made from the guys who did the legenday Championship Manager Series (Eidos own the rights and Championship Manager 5 is made by another company and from what i've read is terrible.) Football Manager 2006 is due out September to December this year sometime.

I wrote them off at the beginning and how wrong I was. I'm so glad I was too! They fought like true warriors and got the luck they needed. Well-done Liverpool!