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well...I just wanted to know what you guys thought of Brian Singer being brought in to do the new Superman movie, and who you all feel should be in the lead role. The new Batman Begins movie is coming out soon, and it seems like it just might be the movie that saves the Batman series, after all the past crappy Batman movies made, not including the first & second which were the best.

I personally feel that Smallville's Tom Wellings would be the best for the role, but only after the Smallville series has run it's five year contract out, I know that wb is pushing for the movie to be released in 06, but I'd personally like to see the Smallville series to moved over onto the big screen, try and sign the current characters, just with the Superman series living on.

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The only way it'll work is if they get Welling and Rosenbaum. Think about it, the world has been growing up with the Smallville cast, it would make absolutely no sense to bring in another Clark, another Lex, another Lois......

I think Welling will do it. Being associate with Superman is not the worst thing in the world, and he'll probably get a nice little payout from it. Unfortunately, there is no way the directors of Smallville will get any say in the film because I think Warner Bros and Warner Bros. Films is two completely different divisions. If they were smart, they would've just handed it to Miles and Gough.

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Of course Singer can do it. Did you see what he accomplished with the first 2 X-Men movies? If anything he's the perfect guy for the job. Gough and Millar are completely wrong for a Superman movie. They can do the teen romance version with Smallville, and the often soapy Spiderman, but a Superman movie is an entirely different animal, and Singer (and his writing team) has proven very capable in making straightforward comic adapted action movies.

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Of course Singer can do it. Did you see what he accomplished with the first 2 X-Men movies? If anything he's the perfect guy for the job. Gough and Millar are completely wrong for a Superman movie. They can do the teen romance version with Smallville, and the often soapy Spiderman, but a Superman movie is an entirely different animal, and Singer (and his writing team) has proven very capable in making straightforward comic adapted action movies.

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Of course Singer can do it. Did you see what he accomplished with the first 2 X-Men movies? If anything he's the perfect guy for the job. Gough and Millar are completely wrong for a Superman movie. They can do the teen romance version with Smallville, and the often soapy Spiderman, but a Superman movie is an entirely different animal, and Singer (and his writing team) has proven very capable in making straightforward comic adapted action movies.

I'm sure Singer can do a great Superman, but you're talking about a generation that's grown up now for 4 years with Smallville. They're going to be confused as hell when they realize that there's no Chloe, no Lionel, and no Lex-Clark friendship in Metropolis. I'm just saying a Smallville movie will be better for continuity purposes.

Am I looking forward to Superman? Of course I am. Would I rather see Welling and Rosenbaum on the big screen? Yes.

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Of course Singer can do it. Did you see what he accomplished with the first 2 X-Men movies? If anything he's the perfect guy for the job. Gough and Millar are completely wrong for a Superman movie. They can do the teen romance version with Smallville, and the often soapy Spiderman, but a Superman movie is an entirely different animal, and Singer (and his writing team) has proven very capable in making straightforward comic adapted action movies.

I'm sure Singer can do a great Superman, but you're talking about a generation that's grown up now for 4 years with Smallville. They're going to be confused as hell when they realize that there's no Chloe, no Lionel, and no Lex-Clark friendship in Metropolis. I'm just saying a Smallville movie will be better for continuity purposes.

Am I looking forward to Superman? Of course I am. Would I rather see Welling and Rosenbaum on the big screen? Yes.

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**POSSIBLE SPOILERS**

I've heard that Tom Welling plays a very small role in the new Batman flick, appearing on the streets bumping into the Christian Bale. The two would then share a few words, and that's it. I think that'd be perfect to set up Wellings as a possible future Superman...

I feel he's made for the role. I always thought that no one would be able to fill Reeve's shoes, because he was the best Superman, the only Superman. I also thought that no one would ever fill Michael Keaton's shoes, and no one ever has, but with the new Batman going back in time to the beginning, telling the story from the start, I think that's the best thing.

I think that if this Superman does get the official green light, that they should wait for the final Smallville episode to air. The show should end with Wellings going off to work for the Daily Planet, or made he puts on the superman suit for the very first time, I'm not sure. Then Singer can take over and continue were the series left off...there isn't much he'd have to retell story wise, because a lot of people would know, or should know were the series is coming from.

Also, if Singer looks at it in a different light, he's already got his cast right in front of him if he looks at Smallville.

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While we're going down that road of Smallville cast members in a Superman movie, how do you feel about Erica Durance as Lois? I guess it's too early to tell (after only one episode), but I liked her. After three seasons of such a one dimensional Lana character (through no fault of Kristen Kreuk), it's refreshing to see Lois be the complete anti-Lana.

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While we're going down that road of Smallville cast members in a Superman movie, how do you feel about Erica Durance as Lois? I guess it's too early to tell (after only one episode), but I liked her. After three seasons of such a one dimensional Lana character (through no fault of Kristen Kreuk), it's refreshing to see Lois be the complete anti-Lana.

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While we're going down that road of Smallville cast members in a Superman movie, how do you feel about Erica Durance as Lois? I guess it's too early to tell (after only one episode), but I liked her. After three seasons of such a one dimensional Lana character (through no fault of Kristen Kreuk), it's refreshing to see Lois be the complete anti-Lana.

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While we're going down that road of Smallville cast members in a Superman movie, how do you feel about Erica Durance as Lois? I guess it's too early to tell (after only one episode), but I liked her. After three seasons of such a one dimensional Lana character (through no fault of Kristen Kreuk), it's refreshing to see Lois be the complete anti-Lana.

I wish that I got the WB...I hate waiting for the seasons to come out on DVD, if only they came out right post-the previous season like some of these shows do.

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Smallville will be completely kick-ass this year with both The Flash and Mr. Mxyzptlk making guest appearnces.

:wub: The Flash. Any idea when the episode is supposed to be?

I got sick of watching the show because of what Beatnik mentioned, it was essentially a teeny romance drama first, then about superman second. I saw the finale for last season and the premiere for this one, and it's starting to look better. On top of that The Flash, who is probably my favorite DC hero.

Ideally, Smallville would make the perfect lead in to the Superman movie, as it would bring in a ton of people that ordinarily wouldn't even pay attention to the movie.

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No I never said I want it to stop. I just don't think Tom Welling is a very good Superman AT ALL.

I can't wait for the new Batman movie, and if the Superman movie sounds good, then I'm there.

I just don't think they'll be able to top the originals.

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From: AIN'T IT COOL NEWS

Hey Harry -

You published a review of Intolerable Cruelty awhile back...and that's about it. I visit the site. Obviously.

Anyway, Bryan Singer, Michael Dougherty, and Dan Harris ALL visited NYU this morning and spoke to a group of around 30 students, including myself. I was expecting the film students there to diluge Singer with questions about the Usual Suspects, for the most part, but really, for an hour or so, all we did was talk about Superman.

He made no mention of the title whatsoever, although the guy who ran the meeting referred to Singer as the director of the upcoming "Superman Returns." For all we know, he might have just lifted it from the site.

Anyway, here are some tidbits.

- When asked if it will be a sequel, remake, or origin story, he said, in so many words, sequel. He said that the previous movies will be referenced in a "vague historical sense" (this wasn't clarified), and that the origin itself will be handled in the same way it was in the first Batman movie, with intercutting flashbacks.

- When asked the "status," he hesitated, but said that they were moving to Sydney (in which they've rented 8-10 acres) in November (they scouted "several weeks ago"), and shooting would begin IN MARCH.

- Casting came up. He said that right now the main offices are setup in New York and LA, but he has 10 offices "all over the world." He said that he's only looking for Lexes and Supermans right now, but he has a "sense of where he's going to look" for his supporting players. Many students around the room were hoping for a shot at Jimmy. He said that he really wants to cast an unknown in the lead.

- Caviezel came up. He said, with ample humor, that since Caviezel, is KNOWN, he won't cast him. He also mentioned that he's looking for an actor between 25 and 30.

- I asked him afterwards (that's right, I talked to him! Yeah! Sigh...) if he was going to, as a director, go for a mythic Donner-like approach or more character based, like Smallvile aspires to be (i don't that show, consequently, despite the fact that Superman is my religion), and he responded quickly. "Mythic. Definitely."

- He mentioned his pitch to Alan Horn right after the dismissal of McG. He mentioned that at that point, they were still doing the Abrams draft, which he hadn't read, and that he knew, immediately after the pitch, that his plans for Logan's Run would have to be put on hold, that Fox would get pissed at him for dumping X-Men 3, because he KNEW that Horn liked his pitch, and that they would forget about the $50 million they spent over the last 11 years and make it. He said the pitch lasted around 30-40 minutes.

- On related subjects, he says that he's going to have a Logan's Run "room" setup in Sydney so he can develop it during the filming of Superman, and move on it immediately afterwards. He says that he feels bad about not participating in X-Men 3 (which he won't). He mentioned a lot of the pre-visualizations on Logan's has already been done, and he seemed really, really excited about it.

- Also on a related subject, I spoke to Dan Harris and Michael Dougherty regarding Ender's Game. They said they did 3 drafts and haven't heard anything more about it. They told me some details, which I'm not going to share, but I'm really happy with some of the changes they made.

- Back to Superman. He said the look will be "traditional." That's good.

- I'm trying to remember if he said anything else, but I think that's about it. He seemed pretty confident that it was getting made, mentioning that "Warner really wants Superman," which he said contributed to him getting tapped to do it. But it was all his idea - Singer, Harris, and Dougherty did the whole thing when in Hawaii and decided, rather sporadically, to pitch it. And it worked.

I guess that's about it. He was a blast to listen to, very funny and honest. Harris and Dougherty, who look like they're about 12, were great also, and this was a confidence booster to me big time that they're up to it.

Oh, one more thing. He was asked how solid he was on his vision for the now-reassigned X-Men 3 and mentioned only that he would probably have to add in Gambit because "he's so easy." He said that Angel was cut from X2, Beast from X-Men, and that neither, he thought, would ever "come back." That's all.

So, if you use this, call me...

SR Hadden

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What's wrong with Tom Welling? I think he's really come a long way from Season 1, and I can actually imagine him as Supes now.

They need to cast Welling. He'll bring in the tweens, and still be a solid enough actor not to alienate the hardcore Superman fans. And if he and Rosenbaum both agree to do it, then you might have one of the better Superman movies made.

Oh, and to say that Smallville isn't mythic means that you haven't been watching.

They've made all sorts of homages to the comics, with Claire Foster, Dr. Teng, Lt. Maggie Sawyer, Perry White, and all sorts of things.

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