Difference between model and skin.

[apsham]

So I just got really deep into the multiplayer mode of Jedi Knights II: Outcast and am installing all the maps and characters I can. I downloaded some kickass models to use, but then I noticed that there was a "Skins" category as well. What's the difference between the two?

Kickass story time: I was playing as Darth Vader in a death match with bots, when I looked to the top. I was playing with all downloaded models you see, and I got an Episode II Anakin Skywalker. His default quote for after a kill is, "[bot\player name here] you are an animal and I slaughtered you like an animal" I noticed this the first time he killed and this came up, it was "Tusken_Raider, you are an animal and I slaughtered you like an animal"

Bwahahaha.

[Docpepper]

wow talk about coincidence. I installed my new graphics card and borrowed JK 2: outcast from my grandpa(never new he was into star wars). I've downloaded a few gameplay mods , but I really suck at deuling I cannot do all the fancy moves and such and plus using a keyboard is friggin hard to control , use the arrows to move space to jump f for the force powers and the mouse to attack , don't see how its possible. Do you have your controls customized ? if so mind offering some advice on whats the best keys to map skills to and etc.

and if you want an easy win look me up sometime I go by Dochappy

[apsham]

Here's how I map, as of now:

Mouse 1: Attack

Mouse 2: Alt Attack

Mouse 3 (clicking down on my wheel): Use force power

; and ': Cycle force powers.

Mouse wheel: Cycle weapons

Ctrl: Duck

/: Jump

Space: Open\close doors.

That's all that I really use I guess. I am using my laptop so it's double hard, but meh.

[Docpepper]

thanks alot man. How far have you gotten on the single player missions ? I'm still stuck on the first one

[apsham]

I just got onto Nar Shadda, past the first part and into the Rodian mob kings hideout. When I got the saber, gah, fuck it. I needed to cheat because it's just too hard to master the saber as of now.

[Docpepper]

yeah fighting with the saber is really hard. to answer your question about model and skin. I think a model is different from a skin because it is made to animate in certain ways and etc. Like i downloaded a demo mod which let you use swords and kung fu moves , in order for it to do that tyhe creator had to make a new model . and a skin is just as it says a skin for the models..

I could be wrong but I believe thats the difference

[apsham]

I wonder how the skins would work though... when I put the models in, it just adds another character that can be used in multi-player mode. Oh well, I am content with those for now.

[Docpepper]

I might be confused , if you download specific models then skins you download won't apply to that model. skins I believe are only for the default models . might be they are only useable in single player. I just got my but kicked in a ffa game , i definetly need to practice and learn all the saber moves

[Toe]

A skin is what goes on top of the model. A model is a completely different and unique shape, while a skin just goes onto the model.

[Docpepper]

found any good mods , skins or models ? Apple ?

Edited June 6, 2005 by Dochappy

[Farmer Reil]

A model is the 3D representation of the characters/objects. They're created (in things like Poser and 3D Studio Max) and then animated so that they do stuff.

Models are either seen as Wireframes:

Or that-thing-where-you-show-all-the-polygons that I forget the name of:

Smooth texture, I think. Then there's another type of texture too, meh.

Then when you've got the model, you can design skins (a.k.a Textures) for it. Skins are 2D images, and you draw them just like you'd draw a net for a box, so that it folds/wraps into the whole thing. I couldn't find a pic for this bit. but basically it looks like a dude that's been run over by a streamroller (ever seen the face type selections in the Smackdown games?), so it looks weird at first.

But then you wrap the skin around the model, and it looks a little bit like this:

So yeah, the term "skin" is actually quite literal Think of Models as Skeletons (which isn't totally correct, because a Skeleton is a term used in animating (models will have Skeletons inside them, and it's those that the animators move around. Usually), and skins as, well, skin.

I just used a face as an example of course. Models in gaming terms are the people and most of the objects too (ladders, boxes, guns etc). Stuff lying on the ground, like grass/weeds etc are usually just textures (I.e, a picture on the floor, with no skeleton inside it, so it looks 3D but actually isn't).

Edited June 6, 2005 by TheReilDeal

[apsham]

found any good mods , skins or models ? Apple ?

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I have only downloaded models for the game really, along with some maps. To tell you the truth, they're all pretty much good on:

http://jediknight2.filefront.com/

I knew what a model\skin was, I was just basically asking how it'd work in the game.

[Docpepper]

thats the site i go to . I've downloaded some skins . Snake(MGS) , Neo(Matrix) and several Multiplayer mods including Jedistyle

[apsham]

What are some good multiplayer mods for a guy who plays with bots? My... umm.... multiplayer won't connect to the net for some... odd reason.