Lost Season Three Discussion Thread

[Number of the Breast]

They kill Charlie I'm gonna be pissed.

Great episode though, one of the best in quite some time, even with no Sawyer and hardly any Locke. It helps that it was done differently than usual, and that there was no Jack. Desmond = awesome.

[PkmnTrainerJ]

I. Hate. Jack.

His storyline is horribly shite. 'Oh no, I have an ex wife and my father's a drunkard.' Boo fucking hoo Jack. The rest of us have a lot more dysfunctional families than that, yet you manage to whinge on about it in every flashback so far.

I'm purely watching next week's episode because it will reveal what happened to the children and Cindy.

Possible spoilers for Stranger In A Strange Land from The Tail Section

I’ve seen the show if you don’t want any spoilers don’t read the rest of this.

I had decided not to write spoilers anymore but I can’t keep my anger to myself this time. I blame the Promos because they are really misleading. The show itself wasn’t so bad but if your looking for the “big” mysteries to be answered you won’t find it in the upcoming epi.

You find out that Jack’s tattoo says (although he walks among us he is not one of us.)

The whole Cindy part was pitiful. What you see in the promo is all you’re going to get. (we’re here to watch)

Jack asks why are you with them.

Cindy: it’s not that simple.

Jack :What are you doing here?

Cindy: We’re here to watch

Then the little girl from the tail section whispers in Cindys’ ear

Cindy says she wants to know how Ana Lucia is.

Jack gets angry and yells are you kidding me, you have something to watch Cindy then go watch it!

They start to leave and the little boy from the tail section gives him a look as if to say your mean what’s your problem.

Kate asks Karl where they live. They live on the same Island our losties are on. The island where Jack was being held was where they worked.

She asked what did you do with the kids and people you took.

Karl: We gave them a better life

Kate: Better than what?

Karl: Better than yours.

Yes that was it! And those are supposed to be the big answers unless I missed something which I didn’t. The episode itself wasn’t horrible but it was lacking in so many ways.

Edited February 20, 2007 by Desmond David Hume

[Number of the Breast]

We all hate Jack. Jack's a sack.

[figos]

Pretty decent episode. The Whole "3 of Lost Biggest Mysteries Revealed" was plain bullshit as expected.

!!SPOILERS ALERT!!

Now, what I'm really looking forward to is "Enter 77" Episode scheduled to air March 7. Guests starring include Danielle Rousseau, Dr. Marvin Candle and Mikhail Bakunin aka Patchy

Edited February 22, 2007 by figos

[Fitzy]

Thank you for telling us stuff that we normally wouldn't want to know unless we were watching that episode (some of us don't like watching the previews as the spoil shit).

But the episode was alright outside of Jack's shitty back story continuing. Sawyer punching the kid for crying was great.

Edited February 22, 2007 by Fatherless Fitzy McIrish

[figos]

Edited. The Whole Jack-Juliet Romance in the making is alright but the flashback was just boring and uninteresting. Maybe because the Girl was pretty ugly :ohwell:

[PkmnTrainerJ]

Rosseau is appearing in the episode after Tricia Tanaka Is Dead, Enter 77 as well, so she may accompany the Losties to Patchy or The Other's camp.

Oh, and a new episode has been announced 'Par Avion', suspected to be Rosseau's or Alex's episode.

[The LBTN Express]

Rosseau is appearing in the episode after Tricia Tanaka Is Dead, Enter 77 as well, so she may accompany the Losties to Patchy or The Other's camp.

Oh, and a new episode has been announced 'Par Avion', suspected to be Rosseau's or Alex's episode.

[St. Dubb]

Was very unimpressed by this episode and was left asking "So what?" about all of it. I guess it was basically filler to tie up loose ends of the other island, get Sawyar and Kate back to the main island, etc. After two episodes where the flashbacks actually meant something, I once again felt like the flashbacks in this episode much like the rest of the season were there just to be there. Sure we learned about Jack's tattoo, but it wasn't nearly as an interesting story as it has been built up to be. That being said, next week looks much better.

[Quick Trick]

Worst episode of the whole show. I was actually excited about the rest of the season because I felt the last two episodes were so good. I'm dissappointed abou this episode and next week didn't look that great either.

[figos]

In the oficial lost podcast it was stated that there will be no episode featuring rousseau's flashbacks this season. :ohwell:

Edited:

Q&A session with Cuse and Lindelof. *POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHEAD*

What happened to Michael and Walt?

CARLTON CUSE: We put a pin in the Michael and Walt story for the season, but by no means is it over. It would be very strange for the end of Michael and Walt to just send them off in that boat without any acknowledgment of what has happened. But if you look at the bigger picture of Lost, there's a circularity to the way that story is going to unfold in the overall mythology, and that is a long, planned approach. Yes, we'll get back to the Michael and Walt story, and it will be really compelling when we do. But that's most likely a year 4 story.

DAMON LINDELOF: Michael and Walt are the first characters on the show to ''get off the island.'' But the pervasive question remains: What is ''off the island''?

Are we going to get the history of the Others in one shot, or will this be revealed over time?

LINDELOF: It's definitely unfolding. We will begin to find out how certain members of the Others joined the Others. Episode 7 should play as a surprise to some audience members that Juliet was not born on the island — she came off the island and was recruited by the Others. So some of them were born there and some of them were recruited, but what they are there to do will be revealed before who put them there and why.

CUSE: The connection between the Others and Dharma gets revealed in episode 11.

When will we see Libby again? Will we ever learn how she got into the mental hospital with Hurley?

CUSE: Given everything else we have to tell, that's going to be a mystery that's going to have to get answered in year 4.

LINDELOF: There's really one significant missing piece to Libby's story. We saw in the season finale last year that she met with Desmond, she gave him his boat, and we know that her husband died — and then we know that subsequent to that, she spent some time in a mental institution, the same one as Hurley. The question the audience wants answered is, How did she get from A to B — from Desmond to the mental institution? We know the answer to that question, but the only way to tell that story is through another character's flashback, and that character would have to be another character on the show who is not among the beach dwellers.

What is the significance of the horse that Kate saw?

CUSE: People seem mystified by this. I would say this: We have seen a number of apparitions on the island, from Jack's dad to Kate's horse. You'll be getting more of an understanding of those apparitions during the course of this season.

LINDELOF: What is the nature of those apparitions? By definition, an apparition shouldn't be something you could go up and touch, or that other people should be able to see. And yet, Kate's horse is real. It is living in the physical world. Sawyer sees it; Kate goes up and touches it. Does the horse bear a striking resemblance to a horse that provided her an escape in her past as a fugitive, or is it the same exact horse? That is a fundamental question. But look at the show in total. Here's Christian Shepherd [Jack's dad]. Here's Yemi [Eko's brother]. Here's the horse. Here's Walt. [Remember, Walt appeared to Shannon, and later to Shannon and Sayid in a backwards-speaking vision.] Are all those things the same thing, or are some of them different things?

CUSE: We're also using these things to set up an animated sitcom spin-off called ''Kate's Horse and Sayid's Cat.''

LINDELOF: That's right. Sayid's cat is coming up in episode 11. We're not joking.

CUSE: Except for the animated part.

What is the meaning or significance of the two skeletons that Jack and Kate found in the cave of season 1?

CUSE: The answer to that question goes to the nature of the timeline of the island. We don't want to say too much about it, but there are a couple Easter eggs embedded in [the Feb. 7 episode], one of which is an anagram that actually sheds some light on the skeletons and hints at a larger mythological mystery that will start to unfold later in the season.

LINDELOF: There were certain things we knew from the very beginning. Independent of ever knowing when the end was going to be, we knew what it was going to be, and we wanted to start setting it up as early as season 1, or else people would think that we were making it up as we were going along. So the skeletons are the living — or, I guess, slowly decomposing — proof of that. When all is said and done, people are going to point to the skeletons and say, ''That is proof that from the very beginning, they always knew that they were going to do this.''

Last season, we saw in Ana Lucia's flashback that she witnessed an argument between Christian Shepherd and a woman in Australia, in which Christian demanded to see his daughter. The burning question/conspiracy theory that fans have is this: Is Claire Jack's half sister?

CUSE: We're not going to answer that question — but the show will. In the next six episodes.

Did Desmond's failure to press the button REALLY cause the plane to crash — or is there more to this story?

LINDELOF: In terms of the pragmatic reality, Oceanic 815 never would have crashed had Desmond pushed the button. But is there a larger, more faith-based, spiritualized reason that these people happened to be on that plane when he failed to press the button? If Desmond hadn't run into Jack at that stadium, would he have made the same choices that he made in his life? They all impact each other's lives. The fact that that guy is on that plane up there, and Desmond brings that plane down, it speaks to an interrelatedness among characters, why these people, why do they all connect. No amount of mythological answers will ever speak to this. That's the one thing that when the show ends, you won't have a causal explanation for why did all these people interconnect. Why some, why not others? The answer is just that they just do. The show is a massive Rube Goldberg device, in which all the components of the machinery are humans.

Even though The Hatch blew up, will we return to the mystery of the Dharma map that Desmond's previous Hatch occupants were painting on the retractable blast door?

CUSE: We will be visiting another Dharma station soon. But the map becomes less important, because when they visit this new station, they'll be getting some new information that helps them understand where the Dharma people lived and where their stations are.

Will Penelope ever become a significiant character, and when will we get a follow-up to the monumentally dramatic revelation at the end of season 2 that the EM burst was detected off the island?

CUSE: Penelope's story continues in episode 8 [Feb. 14] in Desmond's flashbacks. We put that scene at the end of the season finale for a reason, and like the anagram, they're components to a larger revelation. You'll learn more about why we put that scene at the end of season 2 by the end of season 3.

Does time pass differently on the island than off the island?

LINDELOF: That's a really perceptive question. We know that the Others taped the Red Sox win the World Series in 2004... so that would seem to indicate that time flows the same both on and off. But then again, when the sky turns purple and the ground shakes... wait. Hold on. Carlton is wringing my neck.

CUSE: Yes. Time passes very slowly because they don't have American Idol to watch.

In the ''death of Mr. Eko'' episode, it was my interpretation that the Monster was able to assume human form, i.e., Eko's brother. Am I crazy for thinking that? And will we learn anything more about the Monster's origins this season?

LINDELOF: You're not crazy. You will see the monster again this season. Its origins, however... well, you'll have to wait.

CUSE: Whether or not you learn more about it will depend on how obsessive you are. If you enjoy recording the program and studying individual frames, you might. But really, is that healthy?

Is there a mystery you will never solve?

LINDELOF: We will never give story time to revealing the construction of the infamous rope bridge.

CUSE: And honestly, we're never going to tell you why the French lady has a Yugoslavian accent.

Edited February 23, 2007 by figos

[Zaz]

I actually quite liked the island part of the show. The little girl wanting to know how Ana Lucia is, I found quite hilarious. And whoever comes up with all of Sawyer's nicknames is a genius.

[PkmnTrainerJ]

Why did Jack not just tell them:

'Oh yeah, Ana Luica, Sawyer fucked her, she stole his gun and planned to kill Ben when we originally captured him and thought he was called Henry Gale, but couldn't do it, so Michael took the gun and shot Ana Lucia and Libby dead instead, which in the end lead to Ben allowing him to leave the island with his son.'

So, we'll find out more about DHARMA and The Others via Patchy, who has now been given the name Mikhail Bakunin, I guess and it also guest starts Nikki, Paulo and Rosseau and it's Sayid's flashback eppy. Should be interesting.

Also, where the fuck does the van come from in the next eppy? Is it for driving from station to station or something?

[The LBTN Express]

Don't know where the van comes from, but we can take it that Vincent finds it and leads Hurley and Charlie to it as he finds a key on an arm that he finds.

It looks like one of the VW models from the 70's. Maybe there was some kind of infrastructre on the island at one point or something. It'd be pretty hard to drive around in that thing if there wasn't?

Anyway, the next few episodes all look to be top notch. Especially Sayid's, plus we've got the potential game changer episode coming up that Damon and Carlton have mentioned. I can forgive the last one as it was just tying up the Alcatraz storyline.

[PkmnTrainerJ]

The van has a DHARMA logo on it. Why is there nothing on the island but the plane and the boat (The Black Rock) without a DHARMA logo on?

[figos]

You forgot the Baloon. But yeah, pretty much everything on the island is Dharma's.

[Zaz]

I dunno, I've seen several trees that don't have the Dharmo logo

[KingOfMyWorld]

I got two questions, or thoughts or whatever. And I assume since the topic title has spoilers in it or at least the sub does, I'm not required to use the spoiler tags in any future posts? But to be safe I'll use them this time.

Question 1:

Is "Sheriff" Isabel the jeweler in the Desmond episode?

Thought/Question 2:

Juliet apologized to Jack for bringing him to the island, but they needed a surgeon. OK, well 1. Did she mean work island or lost island? 2. Ben tells Jack we had an excellent surgeon his name was Ethan. So if Juliet means Lost island, I'm confused.

[figos]

1-I'm pretty sure she's not

2-She's always refering to the island where they work. And Ethan was the first Other to appear in the show. Killed by Charlie during the first Season after kidnapping Claire.

[TGC]

After reading the podcast thing I stand by my theory and prediction I said months and months ago to Fizzy, Ringy, Srar, Beaty, and some others. That being

That the skeletons on the island were those of Kate and Sawyer.

Just saying again, because people laugh at me when I say that, and have said it for over a year and a half now, but dammit I know I am right!