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OK, here's the things I wanted to go over/address: Has she won matches with it? Her current secondary finisher is Charlotte's Web, which I know she has won matches with. Not bothered at all to change it, but I have never seen her win a match with the Figure Four, hence my reluctance to put it as a finisher... Then again, admittedly, I haven't watched much NXT recently, either. Already being used as an alter Ego for Mr. Wrestling IV I have always set Split-Legged Moonsaults as a "corner" move. Alexander's current finishers are Lumbar Check (Impact) and Overtime (Top Rope) so this point might be moot, unless one of those is the name used for his Split-Legged Moonsault. I'm not sure, but I'm guessing that the mane "Seleziya" isn't commonly used, so I'd lean towards yes... But, I'm not 100% sure. The reason he is unsackable is because he is the co-owner of WSU. He already has an alter ego of "Pierroth II"... Nobody else has "Pierroth II" as an alter ego... So, could we just name him back to Pierroth II, or am I missing something? I'm thinking we have another amalgam here. The pic (and I'm guessing the stats and position with WXW-C4) is of this guy: http://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=13058 While the birthdate being used is of this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Gomez Based on when the worker was added, I'm guessing the person that suggested the stats was wanting to add the first one, not the 2nd one that once appeared on WCW programming. I think it's just the birthdate that's wrong, but want to be sure, before making any change and perhaps confusing the situation more. I don't have a problem with the rename, but (and maybe this is a silly question) why is Cesaro all of a sudden "menacing"...? I don't have a problem checking it, if tht's what people think, but he hasn't changed much during his time with WWE... Just wondering why there was no suggestion of it until July of 2014... Could he have just been kidding? I'm a bit leery of changing that because of what could just be a throwaway comment. Short answer is the combination of me not having a lot of available time and having to sift through 10 pages of CHIKARA related posts since they've returned. Like any other promotion, I give it a few months to see if it's gonna stick and go through and evaluate the suggested info that posters have provided. Also, it takes a good chunk of time to add an entire promotion from scratch. Real-life time working, it takes me about 4 hours, because I build them from the ground up, to make sure there are no errors from the info that I have. With September being a "DATA only" month, it might not get done until the October update... But, I might get a chance to squeeze it into September. That's all I got for now, but I have plenty of backlog, so might find more to comment on sooner than later. -Bill

OK, a bit later than 5:30 EST (it's about 7:20 EST) but had to run an errand and it took a bit longer that I expected. August is up now, so please direct any comments to that thread: -Bill

Real quick, here are the August Update links... Be back hopefully tomorrow (or even later tonight) to go over some things. -Bill MediaFire: FULL: http://www.mediafire.com/download/7npv000ve4fo66r/AUGUPDATE.zip DATA: http://www.mediafire.com/download/mov0p7aph1dhygb/AUGDATA.zip

Just a quick note: The August Update will be out within the next 24 hours (5:30 PM EST). The plan was to release it yesterday (Monday), but I didn't get the time I thought I had available to wrap everything up to my liking. Today and tomorrow are free for me, so I'll be spending a good portion of that time catching up on some of the backlog. I know the 6th is later in the month that I normally release updates (in a perfect world, the update would be out on the last day of the previous month, but I tend to get busy during that time) but I figure if I know I have the time, I might as well use it and get some things on that wouldn't have been on if I released it on Monday (or even today). Hopefully, this makes sense to everyone. -Bill

Yeah, I got that noted. But it happened after June 30th, which is why it wasn't included. The updates start on the first day of the month (This one being July 1st). Assuming it stays inactive, it will be changed for the August Update. -Bill

Got everything noted from this thread. July is up, let's move discussion here: -Bill

Sorry in advance that I didn't get everything done that I had planned, but hopefully, I'll get more time to get caught up for the August Update... Real life just got in the way a lot, unfortunately. Be back in a few days or so to start discussions on August. EDIT: Nobody will probably notice, but I did remove three workers, for having no pic and not being able to find any info on them: JC Castro, Marc Portugal and Red McHallister for anyone keeping score at home. -Bill MediaFire: FULL: http://www.mediafire.com/download/859fz4gmpizz79k/JULUPDATE.zip DATA: http://www.mediafire.com/download/0s4dt4qs9u1tdi2/JULDATA.zip BEGINNERS: http://www.mediafire.com/download/o0qdepaf7ihwnxw/JULBEGINNERS.zip

Just a quick note: I plan to release the July Update sometime within the next 36 hours. Been pretty lethargic and tired this month, still recovering from my surgery, so didn't get done as much as I'd liked, but will be a FULL/DATA/BEGINNERS Update, as per the schedule. -Bill

From the few minutes of research I did just now, ABC and Dumont were competitors until a proposed merger in late 1954... The last pro wrestling show to be aired on Network TV (Until SNME in the 80's) ended it's run in March, 1955. So, if ABC did ever air pro wrestling, it was very briefly under a merger (which I'm not sure if it happened or not, to be honest) and was nearly 60 years ago... Fair enough. I just was looking through the networks in the game currently and those were two that jumped out to me. The only move I'm looking to make this month would be to pull ABC, CBS, NBC, HBO and Showtime and convert FOX to Fox Sports 1... Those are moves that I'm pretty certain won't hurt gameplay at all. I assume Global is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Television_Network Dunno how much wrestling they air now, but they did air the WWE version of ECW back in 2009, according to the wiki. As I said before, I wanna be careful abut doing too much too soon. I don't wanna pull a junkload of networks just because they have never aired wrestling, because, if that were the criteria, there might not be enough networks for the game to run properly, in all honesty. Like I said above, the current plan is to make the adjustments above, getting the number down to 50, unless someone has a good reason as to why we shouldn't (and I honestly can't think of one currently). After that, we can have the discussion on if we want to cut more networks (as long as it doesn't interfere with game playability) or simply change the network names in some cases to better fit in the year 2014. -Bill

Quick note on the TV Networks and potentially tweaking them, to fit the game a bit better: Currently, there are 55 Networks in the game. Is that many really necessary? Obviously, I dunno how others play, but I'm gonna guess that there are some networks that are probably never used in the game and others that really, to be honest, don't belong. My first suggestion would be to cut 5 networks out of the file, giving us an even 50 to work with. The ones I'd suggest are: ABC, CBS, NBC - To the best of my knowledge, pro wrestling has never appeared on ABC or CBS. Currently, the only time it appears on NBC is for the summertime partial presentation of WrestleMania (usually done around SummerSlam, IIRC) and the "Tribute to the Troops" show (if that still airs on there). Personally, I don't think that's enough to justify a wrestling promotion in EWR snagging a weekly deal with them. On top of that, we'd be eliminating 3 of the 4 networks in game capable of getting the 8.0 (highest possible) rating. Showtime and HBO - Two more networks who, to the best of my knowledge, have never aired a pro wrestling broadcast. They both air boxing and HBO has featured wrestling on it's "Real Sports" show, but those aren't wrestling "shows." Cutting those 5 would knock the total number of networks down to 50. Next, Fox (the other network capable of getting an 8.0) would be converted into Fox Sports 1, adjusting the potential audience and maximum risk similar to those currently in CBS Sports Network and NBC Sports Network. IMO, those are the first steps that should be taken. After that, we could work on lowering some of the potential audience on all of the networks, potentially removing even more networks along the way (has wrestling ever been on networks like Nickelodeon and Comedy Central...?). The problem with just adjusting one or two networks is that it would artificially inflate other networks' value. Simply dropping USA Network to lower than 7.0 in prime time won't change the fact that TNT can get a 6.88 in that slot (which is also unrealistic in the wrestling landscape today). I also don't want to do too much too fast, as I'm not sure how all of this would be reflected in game. In other words, I don't want people getting "fired" 3 months into their game because Sophie says you should get a 5.0, when we've adjusted all of the networks so that a 5.0 isn't even possible. In short, I dunno if Sophie's suggestions are based on what is possible in the TV Networks file, or if the expectations are "hardwired" into the game, based on where your promotion sits. If it's the latter, monkeying with the file too much could seriously affect gameplay. So, unless anyone objects, I'll probably cut the number of networks down to 50 for the July Update, using the method I described above. This won't hurt anything, gameplay-wise... People just won't be able to get an 8.0 rating anymore, which isn't realistic these days anyway. After that, I'd probably look for a few people to work with in overhauling the entire file, to get it as realistic as possible, without affecting gameplay. I'd want a few others involved, so that the "updated" file could be used and tested before releasing it in an actual update. What would likely be the best way to discuss that would be to create a separate thread for just that topic, while keeping other update discussion in here. That way, anyone could participate in the discussion, but the entire update thread isn't filled with just network discussion. Any other ideas on this are welcome, as usual, but I think this is probably the best way to go. -Bill

Some other notes while I'm at it... Wanted to start a new post to change subjects, but to also make sure all of my thoughts saved... Everywhere I've researched has his birthdate as 3/28/56... Out of curiosity, where'd you find 3/1/60...? While Telma Roshanravan played an Iranian in WOW, everywhere I've read has her from Diamond Bar, CA. Both have two other promotions that thye are working for ingame... Dunno if they are anymore, I'll be sure to check that out. I know she turned from heel to face, but is she really an "Old School Face" now...? As a heel, I believe she had the "Arrogant" gimmick. Usually, when a worker with the Arrogant gimmick turns face, I give them "Cocky," as I see it as the EWR face equivalent of "Arrogant." I'll admit, I haven't seen much TNA, but I can't imagine Gail now out slapping fives with fans an all that stuff... Just a "face" version of essentially the same gimmick. Same thing here. Maybe at meet-and-greets, Dawn is all smiles and handshakes, but I just don't see that being her "character" if she's working a show. Ingame currently, she's a Heel and her gimmick is a Slut. If she is working face these days, we could flip her and change the gimmick to Seductress, because I'm guessing that that would be a lot closer to dawn's character than Old School Face is. His current gimmick is "Gangsta," which only works on Heels and Tweeners... We'd need a new gimmick for him to turn him face and as is the case with the previous two, I'm doubting he's an Old School Face, all smiles and slapping fives now... any suggestions on a gimmick that works for Mustafa as face...? Last I knew, the two were engaged... Granted, that was a bit back, but haven't found anything to the contrary... Any way to know that they're no longer together...? Of course, that's why these threads exist... To try and get the data as accurate as possible. Looking on Cagematch, he beat Bo Nekoda by Disqualification and that the titles didn't change hands... Is cagematch wrong about this? Regarding Sin Cara's AAA name - We'll worry about changing it when he actually wrestles in AAA... No sense in changing it until we know that we're making the correct change. She was involved in angles and did backstage interviews when she first entered the WWE (WWF then). She hasn't done any of that since returning, but there's no real need to move her to staff, as WWE already has 113 staff members and ends up cutting a junkload of them at the start of the game. Usually, once I add someone to the game as a worker, they stay there, unless extraordinary circumstances arise. Same as Lilian, once someone is added as a worker, I don't usually remove them, because it doesn't make sense to add them to the staff, especially in WWE and there's really no reason to just remove someone. The workers file doesn't slow the loading time, the main culprit of that is the Relationships file. I haven't added many relationships suggested (except obvious ones like blood) and have actually removed some here and there. I actually have paid attention to that "EWR Stats and Scenarios in Theory and Practice" thread and have worked on cutting some of the fat, so to speak. It's nowhere near done, but things are being removed. That'll continue to happen and I won't really announce what I'm taking out... Reason being, if nobody misses it, it obviously wasn't important enough to begin with. If I end up pulling a "legit" relationship or tag team, I'm sure someone will notice and mention it. Then, if needed, we'll just re-add it. Think that's all I've got for the time being. -Bill

OK, let's tackle some of this... First, the debate on who should and shouldn't get the "Unique" gimmick. Here's my thoughts: The requirement to get it ingame is to be involved in a 100% segment. So, the ability to get a 100% segment, IMO, should be one of the things we look at, if not the main thing. Brock Lesnar: Current Gimmick: Machine Personally, I can't think of a time where he would have gotten a 100% segment IRL... MAYBE pinning the Undertaker at WrestleMania, but even then, you'd have to take the match quality into account, which certainly wasn't 100%... You could argue Bad Ass and Legit Athlete... But Unique? Personally, I say no. CM Punk: Currently has the Unique gimmick and IMO, it's justified. I'm not the biggest Punk fan, nor am I a Punk hater, but there have been more than one of his segments in recent years on RAW that I would personally classify as a 100% segment, the most obvious being the "shoot" segment at the top of the stage a couple years back. IMO, Punk has earned the Unique gimmick. Dusty Rhodes: Current gimmick is "People's Boss" and it probably needs to be changed. I could see Old School Face, or Inspirational Leader, as the in-game "Example" for the gimmick is Dusty Rhodes. But, considering he's a backstage member of WWE (at least to the best of my knowledge) and has no on-screen booking abilities, I'd say Staff Member would be the best fit. Hulk Hogan: Current gimmick is "Hero," and well, the "Example" is 1980's Hulk Hogan... Pretty much the same gimmick he's done since returning to WWE. I personally don't see a reason to change it from "Hero," but if people really think Hogan deserves "Unique," I could certainly see that and wouldn't fight hard against it. Jake Roberts: I set Jake to "Loner" and think, as a face, that's probably the best we can do as far as EWR gimmicks is concerned. While Jake is certainly a unique individual, especially on the microphone, I can't really think of any time where he would have gotten a 100% segment. John Cena: Currently has Unique and I personally think it fits well for him. A suggestion was made to make his gimmick "Hero," but I can't recall any time where a "Hero" was booed by at least half of the crowd nearly every time he comes out. Mr. McMahon: The problem I ave with making McMahon Unique would be that, if he has the Unique gimmick, I'm not sure if he'd be able to book matches ingame, like the Authority Figure gimmick can, which is what Vince is currently. If a worker with the Unique gimmick can still participate in those type of Authority Angles, I'd have no issue with giving the Unique gimmick to Vince. Paul Heyman: Heyman is listed as the "Example" for the Sports Agent gimmick and at least IMO, he really hasn't changed his gimmick much over the years. Yeah, he's lost the cell phone and the baseball hat, but he still refers to the workers he manages as "clients," much like a sports agent would. I won't argue that Heyman is good at what he does, maybe the best manager currently, but has he ever had a 100% segment in anyone's eyes...? Scott Hall: Currently listed as a Staff member for JCW and is the "Example" for "Cool." Is he still "cool"...? I could go either way on that. But, if he's still serving as a staff member in JCW, it should stay as is. I just personally don't see Hall being "Unique," but that's me... Triple H: Currently has the Unique gimmick, but dunno if he should, due to his role as COO. Like Vince, if a worker having the Unique gimmick can't be part of those authority angles, it makes more sense to me to have them as Authority Figures, as opposed to unique. I'm not really arguing that Vince and Triple H aren't unique, but Authority Figure for both of them could very well fit better into the parameters set by the game. Again, all just my opinions on each worker discussed. Feel free to continue discussing them, if anyone disagrees. -Bill

June update thread is here: Let's use that thread, so I don't have to come back to this one. I've read and recorded everything here, so no need to repeat it in that thread... Kinda wish I had the ability to pin and unpin the current month thread, so that this doesn't happen, but dunno if that's possible... -Bill

Very quick, here's the June DATA update... Be back in a day or two to go over some things. -Bill MediaFire: http://www.mediafire.com/download/tgnikghq42dxcge/JUNDATA.zip

Well, you're the "expert" on that promotion, so I'll probably do whatever you suggest... My only question would be: Does it make sense to make HOH the main promotion, while keeping FWE as a roster split...? Did these happen before or after May 31st? Reason I ask is, if they happened before, I can change them for the June update, as title changes are very simple... If not, they'll obviously wait until the July Update. I have some ideas on the TV ratings as well, but will wait until the update to go over that. -Bill

Just a quick note: Finished my procedure and am back home now, just very tired, sleeping about 45 of the past 48 hours. I plan to have the June Update out by Tuesday afternoon EST. It's pretty much "done" now, but want to see if I can't get a little bit more added to it, so that I don't get more posts requesting the same stuff next month (some are getting bad at requesting the exact same things month after month after month). Just so we're clear, the update won't include anything that happens on the PPV tonight, or the RAW afterward, as the update is designed to start on June 1st. Probably won't see any workers added, as it's a "DATA only" month, so any worker requests will likely be looked at for the July Update. -Bill

Here's how the splits are supposed to work... FWE is the "parent" promotion, where HOH is a "split" of that. If a worker works for FWE and not HOH, they wouldn't get the split designation. If a worker works for HOH only, they would get the split designation. If a worker works for both, they would get the split designation. The idea is, if you wanted to start a game and just "play as" HOH, you could use the roster split to weed out those who haven't worked for them. The same is in effect for Shimmer/Shine and WWN, with FIP being the split. In my "Beginners" updats in the cases of Shimmer/Shine and WWN, I actually incluse banners and logos for Shine, EVOLVE and FIP, in the event that you wanna reduce the roster in that way. I haven't done a banner/logo for HOH yet and DGUSA is still the default banner/logo for WWN, but hopefully, those will be added by the next time the "Beginners" update is released. So, in short, in the cases you mention (unless I'm misreading), they should all have the split, as again, they are part of HOH, so if you wanted to play as HOH exclusively, they wouldn't be weeded out when you set the roster split. Hope that makes sense. -Bill

Want to make some notes, while I'm thinking about it... IN EWR, if a person with a friendship is fired, the other party (if they're with your promotion) loses 25 points of morale... So, if you hade Austin, he'd lose 25 points of morale each time a "friend" of his was released by you and vice versa... Do you see that happening in these situations? In all honesty, the "updated pics" folder is probably misnamed... It's really more of an "alternate pics" folder, just pics that I pick up here and there to hopfully improve on the "master" pics file that is included in the beginners updates... Most of the pics that start in the "updated pics" folder end up in the "master" pics folder, so I certainly wouldn't lose sleep over not having them all. TL/DR: It's not worth the trouble you'd ahve to go through to get them all, as most end up in the "master" pics folder anyway. It was destroyed the night after WrestleMania and I don't think it's gonna be something that'll be "defended," so unless something changes, it won't be added as a title. What do others think about this? I personally think he should stay heel, as it's pretty clear that that's what WWE has in mind for him, by pairing him with Heyman. But, I could see the argument... But, is a crowd cheering enough to make someone face? Personally, I'd say no, but... Usually, a worker would only go to open if the other promotion he worked for was in the game... IWF is not, so, under normal circumstances, he'd remain under a written deal. Am I correct in assuming that these people have been announced for the June 6/7 HOH events...? If so, we'd normally wait until after they actually appear before adding them. I could see face, but Inspirational Leader...? Personally, I don't see it... I get where you're coming from, but that's not really his gimmick... I'll go through all of the gimmick discussions and offer my thoughts hopefully within the next couple days... -Bill

Didn't get as much done as I wanted to, but didn't want to delay releasing the update any longer... Might even start as early as tomorrow on the June Update. According to the schedule, June would be a DATA only update, but I might make it a FULL and DATA, as I'm scheduled to go into the hospital for a procedure at the end of May... Pending on recovery time afterward, the July Update might have to be a DATA only... But, we'll see. -Bill MediaFire: FULL: http://www.mediafire.com/download/rw3161osdxg97mo/MAYUPDATE.zip DATA: http://www.mediafire.com/download/q8ezn2z58yeqw1f/MAYDATA.zip

Very quick note: Plans are to have the May Update out by Sunday or Monday (in the US)... Monday afternoon (IN EST) by the latest (So, in other words, before RAW). I know that this is a bit later than normal, but I've had a rough month (that "sickness" I felt last month turned out to be pneumonia) so it's taken me a bit longer than usual to get everything done. Remember, the update's "start date" will still be May 1, so anything happeneing after April 30 at 11:59 EST won't be included (like any results from Extreme Rules, if the update isn't out before then). -Bill

OK, actually forgot some notes on card position changes... Might as well address them while I'm thinking about it: Don't understand why he would be LMC, when Slater and McIntyre are listed as Midcarders... Like Cesaro above, it's hard for me to separate workers in card position when they're always together on camera. Hope that makes sense. Now, I admit, I don't watch TNA too often, but last I knew, she was in a match with Gail Kim ( a pretty good one, IIRC) for the Knockouts Title. On top of that, literally every other female in TNA (except Hemme, who is a NW) is a midcarder... Why would Taryn need to be dropped? Scarlett recapped the ROH show as recently as 3/22: Malone has apparently retired from wrestling entirely. Personally, watching Shimmer and Shine regularly, I just don't agree with these suggestions... I'm open to discuss them, in case I'm missing something, though. Danger was on the last set of Berwyn tapings that Shimmer had, coming out to save Leva Bates. No real reason to move her to staff, as she can already be the color commentator (which is her announcing position) while still being a worker in EWR, albeit a "Non-Wrestler." OK, that's all I've got for now. -Bill

OK, notes on the past couple months: What update are you using? I looked at this and the closest AE that Barbarian has is "King Konga." Haku's closest AE is "King Tonga." I even "asked Sophie" about the AE "Kid Tonga" and she came up with nothing. From what I've read, the next Main Event episode is the last one on ION... After that, it'll be on WWE Network. Hopefully, they'll have it settled into a slot (if they move it at all) by the end of April, so we can go from there. If that's the case, Main Event would move to the "TV-PG Online" network already in the game. All three are listed as staff members with NXT... Making them Non-Wrestlers in EWR means that they will refuse to wrestle anymore, except on monthly events. I feel that these three represented the way that they are are fine as is. His gimmick was changed for the April update... This is a bit different case than the ones above, as it's an injury, so he will probably be set to Non-Wrestler for May. Announcer being ticked and Staff Member gimmick were changed for the April Update. OK, I'm iffy on this one... The description of the "Informer" gimmick is as follows: "This worker plays a mysterious informer, who seems to always pop up with information when least expected." Now, to me, Barrett really isn't "mysterious" (especially since he normally pops up on a 20+ foot pedestal) and he really isn't "popping up with any information," at least in my opinion. He's just twisting something into an insult, in most cases. The description of "Arrogant" (which is what I have Barrett under currently) is "This worker looks down on everyone." Personally, I feel that fits better, but I'm open to discussion on it. I don't forsee it being defended... It's been gone for a while now... Well before the April Update and possible updates before that. highly doubt that there will be enough information to accurately create the promotion ingame before the May Update and probably a few months after that, at least. To the best of my knowledge, there isn't even a roster as of yet... We wouldn't know where to set it (Global, National, Cult, etc) what titles they have, events, TV, anything, really. At this point, it would be a blank promotion with Jeff and (I assume) Karen in it. Doesn't make much sense to work on it until there is really something to work on... Being on the creative team doesn't mean that she'll be booking matches... Many writers in the game (and some Road Agents) don't have booking abilities. Even on-screen "Authority Figures" (if they go that route with her) don't need booker to be checked to "make matches" for the shows. Think that's all for now. -Bill

FWIW, these workers should be in for the May Update... Had planned on getting them in for April, but losing the last weekend of the month due to being pretty sick threw a wrench into those plans. -Bill

OK, got a good chunk of stuff in, but actually plan to start up again at the start of next week on May's update, to get even more in for next month. Also plan to make some comments, as I usually try to a few days after releasing an update. -Bill MediaFire: FULL: http://www.mediafire.com/download/05xio4bki487tn4/APRUPDATE.zip DATA: http://www.mediafire.com/download/875uiixorzq8u9m/APRDATA.zip BEGINNERS: http://www.mediafire.com/download/n59upyu9fz5z8yy/APRBEGINNERS.zip

Just to keep everyone in the loop here, the April Update will be released within the next 24 hours or so... Definitely before WrestleMania starts. The original plan was to finish it up last weekend and get it up in the middle of the week, but I got pretty sick last weekend and as a result, didn't do much of anything but rest. Still recovering somewhat, but have been working on getting a good chunk of the backlog taken care of, so that it will be included in the April Update, instead of waiting another month. This will be a Full, Data and Beginners Update, for those that don't know, so I wanted to get as much as I could cram in as possible before I release it. Sorry for the delay, but I think it's worth waiting to get more stuff included that has been suggested/requested. -Bill