NFL 06/07 Talk

[gunnar hendershow]

I think last night we saw two things. 1) How great Matt Leinart will be. 2) That Rex Grossman hasn't gotten as good as we think he has.

That said, with that defense the Bears just need a QB who doesn't turn the ball over and they'll be in good shape. And until last night Rex was doing a great job at keeping possession in the Bears' favor.

[ACCBiggz]

I think last night we saw two things. 1) How great Matt Leinart will be. 2) That Rex Grossman hasn't gotten as good as we think he has.

[gunnar hendershow]

I think last night we saw two things. 1) How great Matt Leinart will be. 2) That Rex Grossman hasn't gotten as good as we think he has.

Maybe as good as you thought he was.... not I.

Oh aren't you special.

No, but I was reading quite a few people say that Grossman hasn't played well all season really. I haven't had the chance to see anything besides brief highlights so I wouldn't know.

Edited October 17, 2006 by damshow

[ACCBiggz]

My history with Grossman is fueled with hate.

[Trey]

Grossman has played very well until last night. With his play the previous five games, he looked like he was forcing things thinking that it would come eventually.

I like Grossman more then most, he just needs to learn when to just tone down everything. That will come with experience, and this game will be a great learning tool for him I believe.

[Enter Blue Guy]

So Chicago beats Arizona, now they're on a bye week, then they have the task of beating San Fran and Miami IN CHICAGO! Can anyone else smell 8-0? They won't have a real test until they go into the Meadowlands to play the Giants.

[Kyle_]

My history with Grossman is fueled with hate.

[gunnar hendershow]

So Billick's egotism reached frightening levels today. He's calling the offensive plays after firing Jim Fassell.

[Evil Chase K]

According to himself he is an offensive genius. So it can't be that bad.

[ACCBiggz]

My history with Grossman is fueled with hate.

Because you hate him doesn't mean he sucks. He's had all great games minus last night and against the Vikings were he was good, not great.

[ACCBiggz]

Jim Fassel was fired by the Ravens - Billick will call the plays, and Green fired his O-Cord as well. He promoted the QB's Coach to the new OC position.

[Kyle_]

My history with Grossman is fueled with hate.

Because you hate him doesn't mean he sucks. He's had all great games minus last night and against the Vikings were he was good, not great.

[ACCBiggz]

You are a moron.

[livid]

You are a moron.

[Vendetta]

Yeah. I don't know if any of you have the NFL network but Green was raging after the loss monday night.

Never seen a coach say those things that he said in the press confrence. The biggest problem is James shouldn't be running up the middle. He should be running the stretch play like he did in Indy, and the offensive cordinator wasn't calling those kind of plays. James isn't a thomas jones, or a fullback. He doesn't work well up the middle. He needs to be on the outside to be the most effective.

[ACCBiggz]

Actually, he has a point. You hate him, but that doesn't make him a bad QB.

[Kyle_]

Actually, he has a point. You hate him, but that doesn't make him a bad QB.

1. Yes it does.

[Trey]

I agree with almost everything ACCBiggz says, I just like to put positive spin on it rather then negative.

You're right, Grossman will make a bad decision or two every game. But he also has shown that when he's going good, he'll make great throws and that he CAN be the leader of a team.

He still doesn't have a lot of in-game experience, and that shows in games like this. Early on, he checked down very well, while in this game it seemed like he thought that he could get it going like he has most of the season.

Grossman is by no means the next Joe Montana, but whenever he's reigned in and the coach's do their job, Grossman is more talented then 85% of the other starting quarterbacks in my opinion.

[Mr. X]

Actually, he has a point. You hate him, but that doesn't make him a bad QB.

1. Yes it does.

And you say I'm a moron

It's not because he is from Florida. One of my favorite players ever is from UF. It's because he is a mindless nimwit who makes horrible decisions. He has a better arm than Orton, and I'm not an Orton fan either, but Orton is 8-0 as a starter and did not make nearly the number of mistakes Grossman has.

Oton stats from last year:

1869 YDS, 59% Completetion, 9 TD, 13 INT, 59.7 QB Rating 5 lost FUM, 8-5 record(9-6 if you count the last game with the back-ups and the ATL game where Grossman came in at halftime)

Grossman this year(so far):

1391 YDS, 57% Completetion, 10 TD, 7 INT, 82.1 QB Rating, 2 lost fumble, 6-0 record

I'll take Grossman

What those stats don't say is that Orton was a third string rookie who after Hutchinson was cut became a second string and quickly became a starter when Grossman went down with his injury. Orton did a good job for the situation he was thrown in. Grossman has been inconsistent which makes me afraid that he could be, with a very high probability, the weak on the offense.

[Kyle_]

Inconsistent? He had a bad game, everyone has those. The rest of the games he has been impressive.