Official NFL 2007 Thread

[NobBe Nobbs]

Had the Dolphins passed on Ginn, the Houston Texans very likely would have taken Ginn one pick later at No. 10.

[livid]

Well to their credit, they actually would've been doing something they've never really done before by drafting Ginn, and that's giving help to the QB and it would create a dynamic duo like they said. Then again, the "help" they need isn't at receiver, it's on the offensive line.

[Hellfire]

Randy Moss

Donte Stallworth

Reche Caldwell

Wes Welker

Chad Jackson

Kelly Washington

Jabar Gaffney

I can only hope that is who gets in. I don't like Reche Caldwell at all, he had far too many drops and really did nothing to impress. I just don't know too much about Washington, just that he was injured for awhile. As for who I picked, Moss and Stallworth are obvious. Wes Welkerr is a speedster, Jackson hasn't got much of a chance yet and I have a soft spot for Gaffney, who came up big near the end of last season.

[ACCBiggz]

I would personally have Washington at #3. He was awesome in that role in Cincinnati. This corp is really good because of Moss. Without Moss most defenses still have pretty good match-ups (a #1 CB vs. Stallworth, etc.) So, now that Moss creates the match-up problems elsewhere it works out well.

[JStarr]

Really, I'd keep all but Caldwell. Welker will most likely be the return specialist only, if he's got to fight for time with the rest of these guys.

[livid]

It's going to be...

Moss

Stallworth

Welker

Gaffney

Jackson

Welker/Gaffney as the 3, while Chad Jackson takes the advice from the older receivers. It would be ideal if Troy Brown were to stick around and they probably might if they want to keep 6 on the roster. Gaffney is a solid receiver who's finally living up to at least some of his potential. If he's left out of the picture, I could see him ending up in a place like New Orleans where he could flourish as the third option (or even second if Henderson and/or Copper don't perform like they did last year) and he would benefit from that tremendously. That is, of course, if Keyshawn doesn't end up there first, but it wouldn't be wise on their part as they already have a possession receiver in Colston and adding another probably won't help them that much. Another place would be Green Bay as they're in dire need of a guy who take the pressure off of Driver and Jennings.

[VerbalPuke]

Yeah, a guy like Welker's value will go beyond his spot at the WR position. He can return kicks, and will be on special teams coverage units. Hell, the guy can also kick field goals if necessary.

[Maxx]

I'm fairly sure they'll be keeping Kelly Washington, as they overpaid him, giving him a 5 year contract that could be worth $22 million. I doubt they'll be cutting him and taking that cap hit. Gaffney most likely won't make it as he offers nothing that one of the other recievers can't do.

Moss

Stallworth

Caldwell

Washington

Jackson

Welker

[ACCBiggz]

Ha!

Gotta love that!

[Trey]

I'm waiting on the response from Bill Simmons.

[Meepus]

Oh, Ricky.

[Green Demon]

Doesnt really surprise me at all, Ricky bascially quit football to be able to smoke so it isnt any surprise to me that he is still smoking.

[deangelo]

No real shock, Ricky's one of those guys who will probably never change. Its a shame cause he could've turned out to be a great player, Im really hoping Vick doesn't fall into the same trap and ruin his career.

[livid]

Ricky's biggest problem is his social anxiety disorder and a lot of people with that will turn to drugs to try and cope with it. It's a shame, but a lot of it probably has to do with his anxiety disorder.

[JStarr]

Favre vents, requested trade

By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports

May 13, 2007

In a fit of anger, Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre requested a trade nearly two weeks ago, a source close to the quarterback confirmed. The trade request was initially reported by FOXsports.com.

In addition, Favre expressed his frustration over the team’s failure to acquire former Pro Bowl wide receiver Randy Moss after Favre said he had agreed to restructure his deal to accommodate Moss.

Although the Packers have reportedly told Favre that they have no intention of dealing him, the revelation of the trade request and his public comments about the failed effort to get Moss, could make for an interesting time when the Packers hold a mini-camp next weekend.

Even more, Favre’s remarks could put pressure on Packers general manager Ted Thompson, who has been coy over the past two years about his desire to have Favre come back or retire.

Two weeks ago, Thompson talked about the franchise's emphasis on character when targeting players – perceived as an indirect explanation for Green Bay not finalizing a deal for Moss. However, Thompson is the same executive who last season signed wide receiver Koren Robinson after Robinson committed a DUI while under contract with the Minnesota Vikings. It was a relapse of previous drinking problems for Robinson.

As for Favre, who led Green Bay to a Super Bowl title during the 1996 season and guided the Packers to another championship berth a season later, he said his focus is only on one objective.

"I just want to win; maybe I see things the wrong way," Favre told reporters in Mississippi over the weekend. "I don't want to ruffle any feathers and I want people to respect me. Sometimes I think it's hard for them to let Brett go. They might think that we pay him a lot of money, but he still gives us the best chance to win. I've never been told that, but there are times when I wonder if I'm the odd man out here and they just don't know how to tell me."

That statement appears to be a direct reply to claims by Favre and those close to him that Thompson has not been clear what direction he wants to go at quarterback. In 2005, Thompson spent a first-round pick to take quarterback Aaron Rodgers as the heir apparent to Favre.

"I don't know if I've lost faith, and I think everyone in the organization wants to win. I just don't know if it includes me," Favre said. "If it's going to be five years from now, I'm not going to be here. This is 17 years for me and I want to win."

Favre had expected the Packers to complete a deal for Moss. He told the Sun Herald in Biloxi (Miss.): "It was a done deal and the stories of how we lost him because he didn't want to restructure his contract were not true.

"He was going to wipe his contract clean and sign for $3 million guaranteed, plus a fourth-round draft pick. That would have been a steal. But we were not willing to guarantee part of that $3 million. I even had (agent Bus Cook) call up there and tell them I would give up part of my salary to guarantee that part of the money. Apparently that wasn't enough either."

Thompson responded to Favre's comments and questions about the situation through an issued statement on Sunday.

"I think it's natural for a player to be frustrated from time to time – that's simply being human," Thompson wrote. "Everyone knows that Brett Favre is all about winning. As an organization, we share that commitment. And we want to win now."

As for the trade request, Thompson was less direct.

"We never comment on the talks we have with our players or with their agents, in line with the long-standing policy of our organization," Thompson wrote. "We try to encourage open and honest dialogue with players and their agents. But if those talks later are shared with third parties, the willingness of players to be open in future conversations may be compromised."

It's simply Brett hanging on to see if he can take some of Dan Marino's spots in the record book now. Otherwise, he'd have taken all these signs and simply retired. The Packers haven't made too many moves to pump up the offense that surrounds Brett, instead making draft picks like A.J. Hawk and Justin Harrell. Greg Jennings being as good as he's been constitutes one of those sleeper picks. So, if you were Brett, would you have just quit by now? I would've.

[Trey]

Being that I hate Favre, I'd tell him to retire. But really, I can't say I wouldn't do the same thing. If you're a pro football player, that is you. It would be very, very difficult to give that up just because you don't have talent around you.

[Typical Phenom]

Favre vents, requested trade

By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports

May 13, 2007

In a fit of anger, Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre requested a trade nearly two weeks ago, a source close to the quarterback confirmed. The trade request was initially reported by FOXsports.com.

In addition, Favre expressed his frustration over the team’s failure to acquire former Pro Bowl wide receiver Randy Moss after Favre said he had agreed to restructure his deal to accommodate Moss.

Although the Packers have reportedly told Favre that they have no intention of dealing him, the revelation of the trade request and his public comments about the failed effort to get Moss, could make for an interesting time when the Packers hold a mini-camp next weekend.

Even more, Favre’s remarks could put pressure on Packers general manager Ted Thompson, who has been coy over the past two years about his desire to have Favre come back or retire.

Two weeks ago, Thompson talked about the franchise's emphasis on character when targeting players – perceived as an indirect explanation for Green Bay not finalizing a deal for Moss. However, Thompson is the same executive who last season signed wide receiver Koren Robinson after Robinson committed a DUI while under contract with the Minnesota Vikings. It was a relapse of previous drinking problems for Robinson.

As for Favre, who led Green Bay to a Super Bowl title during the 1996 season and guided the Packers to another championship berth a season later, he said his focus is only on one objective.

"I just want to win; maybe I see things the wrong way," Favre told reporters in Mississippi over the weekend. "I don't want to ruffle any feathers and I want people to respect me. Sometimes I think it's hard for them to let Brett go. They might think that we pay him a lot of money, but he still gives us the best chance to win. I've never been told that, but there are times when I wonder if I'm the odd man out here and they just don't know how to tell me."

That statement appears to be a direct reply to claims by Favre and those close to him that Thompson has not been clear what direction he wants to go at quarterback. In 2005, Thompson spent a first-round pick to take quarterback Aaron Rodgers as the heir apparent to Favre.

"I don't know if I've lost faith, and I think everyone in the organization wants to win. I just don't know if it includes me," Favre said. "If it's going to be five years from now, I'm not going to be here. This is 17 years for me and I want to win."

Favre had expected the Packers to complete a deal for Moss. He told the Sun Herald in Biloxi (Miss.): "It was a done deal and the stories of how we lost him because he didn't want to restructure his contract were not true.

"He was going to wipe his contract clean and sign for $3 million guaranteed, plus a fourth-round draft pick. That would have been a steal. But we were not willing to guarantee part of that $3 million. I even had (agent Bus Cook) call up there and tell them I would give up part of my salary to guarantee that part of the money. Apparently that wasn't enough either."

Thompson responded to Favre's comments and questions about the situation through an issued statement on Sunday.

"I think it's natural for a player to be frustrated from time to time – that's simply being human," Thompson wrote. "Everyone knows that Brett Favre is all about winning. As an organization, we share that commitment. And we want to win now."

As for the trade request, Thompson was less direct.

"We never comment on the talks we have with our players or with their agents, in line with the long-standing policy of our organization," Thompson wrote. "We try to encourage open and honest dialogue with players and their agents. But if those talks later are shared with third parties, the willingness of players to be open in future conversations may be compromised."

It's simply Brett hanging on to see if he can take some of Dan Marino's spots in the record book now. Otherwise, he'd have taken all these signs and simply retired. The Packers haven't made too many moves to pump up the offense that surrounds Brett, instead making draft picks like A.J. Hawk and Justin Harrell. Greg Jennings being as good as he's been constitutes one of those sleeper picks. So, if you were Brett, would you have just quit by now? I would've.

[ACCBiggz]

Some community college player signed by the Saints this off season lasted 12 minutes into his first practice before Payton cut him.

[Vendetta]

According to the NFL network, The Packers told The Raiders that Moss wasn't worth a fourth round pick. If that's the case, That GM should be fired on the spot.

[ACCBiggz]

Yeah, that came out a day after the draft.