Joe Torre leaves Yankees

[darkrayne]

Joe Says No: Torre Out After 12 Years as Yankees Manager, Rejects Pay Cut to Return

Oct 19, 4:04 AM (ET)

By RONALD BLUM

NEW YORK (AP) -Joe Torre took a morning flight to Tampa, Fla., walked into George Steinbrenner's office at Legends Field and listened to the offer. He said he couldn't accept it, shook hands and left the ballpark, the New York Yankees' manager no more.

After all he had accomplished - four World Series titles, 12 straight years in the playoffs, almost certain entry into the Hall of Fame - and after all the indignities, this was one he wasn't going to stand for.

Torre walked away Thursday, turning down a $5 million, one-year contract - $2.5 million less than he made this season, when the Yankees failed to make it past the first round of the playoffs for the third straight year.

"A difficult day," general manager Brian Cashman said. "He will always be a Yankee."

Bench coach Don Mattingly is the leading contender to replace Torre. Yankees broadcaster Joe Girardi, the NL Manager of the Year with Florida in 2006, is another top contender. Tony La Russa and Bobby Valentine also could be considered.

Most Yankees fans could see this day coming.

After losing the first two playoff games to Cleveland, owner George Steinbrenner said he didn't think Torre would be asked back if the Yankees didn't advance. New York hasn't won it all since 2000.

The 67-year-old Torre, who made the playoffs in every year with the Yankees, indicated last week that he might be interested in managing elsewhere.

New York's offer included $3 million in bonuses if the Yankees reached next year's World Series - $1 million for each round reached - and an $8 million option for 2009 that would have become guaranteed if New York won the AL pennant.

Torre just completed a $19.2 million, three-year contract. The Chicago Cubs' Lou Piniella was the second-highest paid manager at $3.5 million.

"Under this offer, he would continue to be the highest-paid manager in major league baseball," team president Randy Levine said. "We thought that we need to go to a performance-based model, having nothing to do with Joe Torre's character, integrity or ability. We just think it's important to motivate people."

It appeared to be an offer designed to be rejected. Scott Boras, the agent for Yankees star Alex Rodriguez, said players would have interpreted an acceptance by Torre as weakness.

"It is difficult, near impossible, to accept a salary cut," Boras said. "Successful people can afford their principles. They understand if they accept the position, there is a great risk the message to all under him is dissatisfaction. "

Torre called Cashman on Tuesday and asked to meet with the 77-year-old Steinbrenner and the owners' sons, Hal and Hank, who have taken an increased role in recent month. They spent an hour together, and then Torre was gone.

Steinbrenner let his sons do the talking.

"The objective of the Yankees since the '20s has been to win the championship every year, just as the objective of (Vince) Lombardi with the Packers was or (Bill) Belichick and the Patriots," Hank said. "None of us think we can win the championship every year, but that's the goal. Period."

Torre led the Yankees to 10 AL East titles, but they haven't reached the World Series since 2003.

With 2,067 regular-season wins, Torre is eighth on the career list and was third among active managers behind the St. Louis Cardinals' La Russa (2,375) and the Atlanta Braves' Bobby Cox (2,255). Torre's four World Series titles are likely to earn him a place in the Hall of Fame - every manager with three or more has been inducted.

"Joe Torre is a great man, he is a legendary Yankee and a legendary Yankee manager," Levine said, adding: "The goal of this franchise is to win the World Series. All of us get up every day knowing that is the goal and all us take that responsibility on. Unfortunately we have not met that goal for seven years."

Torre's was the longest uninterrupted term for a Yankees manager since Casey Stengel held the job for 12 years from 1949-60. Stengel was pushed out, too, let go exactly 47 years earlier after his team lost a seven-game World Series to Pittsburgh.

Under Torre, the Yankees went 1,173-767. He trails only Joe McCarthy (1,460) for wins among Yankees managers.

Torre's departure could factor into whether potential free agents Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada, Andy Pettitte and Rodriguez remain with the Yankees.

"We certainly hope that they decide to come back," Cashman said. "At the end of the day we consider them Yankees and they will have an opportunity to remain part of the Yankees."

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Associated Press Writer Jim Fitzgerald in Harrison, freelance writer Mark Didtler in Tampa, Fla., AP National Writer Nancy Armour in Cleveland and AP Sports Writer Howard Ulman in Cleveland contributed to this report.

[Guest Onkel Hans]

Am I missing something, or is there some reason he wouldn't accept a much better offer?

[darkrayne]

Torre walked away Thursday, turning down a $5 million, one-year contract - $2.5 million less than he made this season....

[Guest Onkel Hans]

Better than that one, I meant. It's called negotiation.

[naiwf]

The Yankees basically considered that offer to be a "take it or leave it" deal, and Torre left it.

[darkrayne]

Unfortunately Naiwf you are correct... and now I wait to see how many of the free agaents decide that they would rather be elsewhere too... ({)

[Lowerdeck]

Sounds like the Yanks offered Torre an offer he would easily refuse to get rid of him and save face.

I got to say good for Torre, he's a good manager and doesn't need to put up with Steinbrenner's shit anymore.

[Hellfire]

First, Fuck the Yankees. Now that thats out of the way, I always liked Joe Torre, he's a good coach and he'll definitely get another job soon. The Yankees pretty much offered him something that they knew he would never except, because both sides pretty much already were planning on going their separate ways. I'm curious to see where they go now, manager wise. New York is a tough town, whoever gets the job is going to have a lot of pressure put on them to go deep in the playoffs and win.

[Lowerdeck]

It's gonna go down to Mattingly or Girardi, maybe LaRussa. I don't think Mattingly can handle the position, and Girardi deserves something better.

So essentially, it's like eating the Broodwich ... who has a taste for insanity?

[GhostMachine]

It was obvious they wanted Torre out. The paycut was insulting. The one year contract with an option for a second was insulting. The fact that they weren't willing to negotiate was insulting. I can see why Torre turned them down and actually would have thought less of him if he had accepted it!

That said, I just hope some other team hires him as a head coach so that he's not available when Dusty Baker is fired 3\4 of the way through next season because I don't want the crackheads running my Reds going after Torre for the job.