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  1. The position, therefore, is as follows. Mr Suarez spoke in Spanish to Mr Comolli soon after

    the game about this serious allegation. Mr Suarez also spoke in Dutch to Mr Kuyt. Both

    Mr Comolli and Mr Kuyt understood Mr Suarez to have told them that when he spoke to

    Mr Evra he said words which translate into English as, "Because you are black". According

    to Mr Suarez, Mr Comolli misheard what Mr Suarez said in Spanish, and Mr Kuyt

    misheard what Mr Suarez said in Dutch.

  2. Hey guys, here's a LOL. I'm playing in a mafia game on a different board and we're in the final day - 4 players remaining. Two of us think this guy is scum and we're trying to convince the third to get a lynch. His defence is in the form of this youtube video:

    :lol:

    This deserves to be watched more! I hate watching random unexplained youtube videos but this one is worth it.

  3. The whole thing is a mirky mess. *If* Suarez is being punished for a cultural misunderstanding then it does seem rather a dangerous precedent.

    No, it's an awesome precedent. If Evra felt threatened because of his race then Suarez did something wrong. It's his responsibility to make sure that doesn't happen and referring to someone's skin colour in any way as part of an argument is pretty obviously wrong, even if the word you use has no racist connotations whatsoever.

    There's a misunderstanding over whether this is declaring Suarez as racist or not. There is no law that governs what someone thinks or what crazy stuff goes through their head. There are probably passionate racists who believe some horrible things but never act on them or abuse anyone. That's not something that should be legistlated against, especially because what runs through your head affects no-one else. On the other hand, if someone believes that they aren't racist but says something which is clearly likely to cause offence based on skin colour, then they are guilty of putting another person in a horrible position. If a tribunal later sees evidence of Suarez not being racist and having lots of black friends then that doesn't change how Evra felt at that moment in time.

  4. I'm guessing the bit about the 'potentially libellous...' claim is the bit about waiting for Evra to be charged? It's interesting the club said Evra had admitted to using the term in his written evidence, and there's no way a statement like that would have been released without a lawyer taking at least a glance over it.

    No, I was talking about the bit where they implied that Evra has a history of making claims of racism that have been disproved. This was the incident at Stamford Bridge when Mike Phelan said he heard a Chelsea groundskeeper racially abuse Evra. Evra's claim was that the groundsman had been rude to him and drove his lawnmower towards him aggressively (or some shit.) He didn't say anything about racism, that came from Phelan. This story has been morphed into 'Evra cries wolf all the time!'

    It's ridiculous that the FA can wait until the middle of January before releasing the evidence/case files. Should be done at the same time as the verdict is announced.

    Agreed. It's hard to imagine that there's some sort of time-sensitive reason why they can't release the details. It's basic testimony from a few footballers, not national security.

  5. But there's been no substantiation of this claim that Evra said that? As far as I can see it's only a claim that's been made on Liverpool fan sites? I know we live in a world where Suarez can be lauded for the fact that he didn't lie about saying something racist, but it's his responsibility to report anything like that.

    TRB, you just cannot say 'it's all hearsay, but imagine this is how the conversation went...' We don't know, so trying to make any kind of judgement of wordings or misunderstandings from a made up exchange is pointless.

    EDIT: And LFC have already made misleading and potentially libellous claims about Evra in their initial statement, so I trust nothing that comes from their PR department.

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