SeanDMan

Not exactly, Sony kicked Nintendo's ass because 1) The CD Medium was much cheaper and was thus less expensive for game developers and publishers, luring them away 2) Sony had a massive budget, about twice what Sega could manage and on par if not above what the Big N could throw out. Akin to how X-Box tried to buy up the console market creating the "this system only" franchise splits. 3) Nintendo's marketting strategy was essentially "fuck em if they don't like it". They had the user base and believed that alone would make it impossible to be unseated. So they continued to charge their liscensing fee and thusmade their games 3 times as expensive to produce. When Sony began to get a market share, Nintendo relied on first party games, a strategy which up to now on the Gamecube has failed. It was never about the better product. The Nintendo 64 was the better system, it was far more durable and equal if not better in terms of graphics, the Playstation beat it on audio/FMV but that was it. Graphically and processing power were as good on the N64 if not better, and plans for the modem were the first to come out in a game system besides the PC. THE PROBLEM with Nintendo is that the market in Japan was so weak for them. In America the race was actually pretty close, but the RPG market is HUGE in Japan, and there was no doubt that with the FMV and exclusivitity from Square, Nintendo was fucked. The difference is marketting. The GTA series, as well, isn't very innovative. It's highly derivative with low replay value. It's fun, but it's not worth more then a rental. But it's marketted well, and plays to the target group that Nintendo has absolutely ignored. Gamecube will have an equivalent. I swear I saw a James Bond game in that ad...

I just saw the Gamecube commercial set to Rob Zombie. It looks like they are finally appealing to the teen-adult audience that has allowed Sony to rape them in the ass and nut across their face for years. Is it too late? Maybe. But the games in the commercial look fucking DOPE. I jizzed my pants. Seriously, it's about time they abandoned cartoony mascot bullshit. Sony did and they rule the world now. Let's get some good fucking games, so that I can bitchslap killmjhunt for being a playah hatah.

Grab up Prodigy's Climbatize. That shit fucks with your head. Aphex Twin, too, but I'm no AT expert so I can't seperate the hard edgy stuff from the physcodelic ambience.

I can't break wood either, or at least, I couldn't when they had me do target striking. I can break boards if I'm pissed but not when I'm calm. I'm just not that... I dunno, precise.

See, that's why I love No Mercy. I propose something, how about Media or one of the other Smackdown fans post what they like about Smackdown, what they see as important to a wrestling game, and areas where THEY think the game could use improvement. We'lll just go with HCTP since it was the last released. Then, we can compare it to other games, see where it comes up short and where it's a better game, THEN maybe you can see why we don't really like the Smackdown games, and why we prefer other games. Because there seems to be an attitude that Matzat and I are anti-Smackdown just for the hell of it, and don't know what we're talking about. I want to evidence that that's bs.

Or not, as it voids your warranty to disengage your laser module.

If we're counting wrestling, then I've done specialized tactical grappling, as well as amatuer/freestyle wrestling, and pro bumping. I love the ground, I'm a shooter by nature. Judo really helps that, and the grappling was great because it was police issue, so you get hands on with what people tend to try in stand-up. Between the judo and the grappling, there's basically never a strike that I won't know what to do with, if you throw it and I see it, I nullify it. I have a tendency to suck at boxing, I was 1-6 when I gave it up. Amatuer wrestling was my calling, against my weight class I lost three times, against all others I only lost once in six months of practices and meets. So yeah, me and Syco in a fight would be fun, because he'd refuse to go down and I'd keep tying to get him to go down on me... errr, with me.

You should see if anyone has it. I know people who even now still play it. I didn't like it at first, because it was a lot slower then the Acclaim games, but it's a lot better. It's a lot slower then Smackdown, but it is a LOT better. Edit: Okay for those who don't know, there are two reversal buttons in No Mercy, L for dodge, and R for counter. When people throw strikes at you, you can hit L to dodge or R to counter. When in a grapple, both buttons work the same. By pressing it at the right second/button mashing, you can counter a move. Strikes usually are countered by a grapple move (dragon screws on kicks) or a submission (crossface on punches). Each style set has unique counters, and in addition, you can set some of them in CAW, AND some wrestlers have unique counters, AND you can set more then one, AND they can differ when you have special. Grapples are even better, each grapple meaneuver has about 3 counters on average, some have 2, some have six. They are weight dependent and style dependent. Chris Benoit would counter a suplex with a suplex, Brawshaw with a clothesline, Paul London with an arm drag, etc. Although they are largely automatic, each grappling meaneuver can either be countered with a move or just outright avoided, by slipping under or around, or breaking the grapple, stunning the opponent and leaving the follow up to you. These, too, can differ when on special. Basically anything that can be done can be countered. Running strikes, irish whips, running grapples, even getting picked up as I said earlier. There are 3 ways to counter the superplex, four if you count the unique special one where you shove him off and immediatly hit your ariel special. There are 3 ways to counter the irish whip, plus 4 ways to dodge blows, plus the ability to hook yourself up on the ropes and or slide under. You can even set how you want to counter grappling ATTEMPTS, and have about 12 choices from the front and six from behind. You can counter ground submission attempts. Basically, the only things you cannot counter are specials, ground strikes, and con hilos. You can dodge all of them, though, so no move in an arsenal will hit %100 of the time. Except the opponents entrance, of course.

lol no All they have to do is turn the selling up. If they set it up like No Mercy it'd work perfect. The guy is down for a while, and when he get's picked up, he can go behind, or rake the eyes. That's how it works in real wrestling. But, I'm presuming for balance issues, Smackdown lets everyone get up way, way too fast, and it just makes the whole experience stupid and unrealistic.

He hasn't justified his like of the game at all, on every point he has been refuted with the exception of it looks good, and if that's the only reason to spend $80 on a game, then anyone who does is stupid.

lol Media doesn't stop. Wait a minute, aren't you the same guy who said an updated roster wasn't important because you could use the CAW? Man, now you're just a Smackdown apologist, what a joke, you're just a gigantic waste of time. If you don't want a better game whatever, that's your deal. But making the arguement that you want a realistic game and then praise heaps for Smackdown is fucking rediculous, you must be stoned. I'm going to quote a passage and replace a few words, but it's basically going to be a straight up steal, just modified for genre. That's pretty much where the Smackdown series is at. The WWE is fine with throwing in stupid gimmicks to get people who are casual fans to buy in, without refining the system for those who think it lacks. The WWE would only gain followers if they balanced the system, but they won't do it, because they know people will continue to baaa at their whim. Like Media, who defends their games far past the point of absurity and marks for Randy Boreton. He's never going to see logic, he'll just continue to be a stupid mark, and he's not really worth my time. Edit: Kaneanite I've attacked in the past Madden, EA's NHL, and All-Star Baseball. Since I don't watch Soccer I don't get involved in football threads including Fifa. But I do have a problem with releasing the same game every year. Ecspecially now, when you can download roster packs each year. I mean it would be fine if the games were cheaper. Or if every second year, they made a bunch of changes. But that doesn't happen. Game sells, they rerelease it, they rerelease it, they rerelease it. They did it with Tomb Raider until they drove the franchise into the ground. But with sports and fighting games with a big money liscense attatched, that won't happen, so they will never change.

I often am. I mean I am a mild hypocrite, I'll buy DoR and I will play it with friends, but in a month I'll feel ripped off like I did with WM Revenge because it's the same fucking game. That's why it pisses me off that people defend it, the game has been the fucking same for what a decade now, and people still buy it because each version looks better. It's like when you bought Metal Gear Solid. It was supposed to be epic. And then bam, you're done in 4 hours. So you figure, well maybe they made the sequel bigger, tie up loose ends. And bam you finish it in 2 hours. I mean Snake Eater is getting some of the highest praise ever, for a few pictures, I honestly can't give a fuck because if the last two games are any indication it will be over in 20 minutes.

Realistic, lol, yeah it's realistic, everyone bolting around like they're wired on cocaine and throwing people into expoding cars. Yay realism. You're a mark, you're a corporate whore. You say "I like it and tuff", well keep liking it until they tell you to like something else. As far as the gameplay, I haven't even PLAYED KOC, it has to be better then Smackdown, No Mercy plays better the Smackdown, Fire Pro which I thought was boring, plays better, hell if you want a faster arcadey game, get Street Fighter, it has reversals and punches kicks and throws, for all intents and purposes it's a better wrestling game. Smackdown is for kids with ADD who can't form cognitive train of... who can't focus on things, and if your posts are any example, your "fuk u ill do wut i want" babbling about how you like it without any justification besides it looks good is confirming more and more you fit into that category like crap in WWE. You want realism, you take a game that for years has shunned blood and logical selling of moves while addded more ludicrous high spots and stupid gimmicks? Is that a fucking rib? Are you a Fire Pro Salesmen who's gonna shoot a confetti cannon at any second and tell me you caught me on TV? Seriously, what the fuck, Smackdown is realistic? Do you do a lot of speed and jump off 80 foot structres? Because I sure as hell won't define a bunch of people moving around a ring at lightspeed and then leaping off 40 foot hells in cells and even higher titantrons to be realistic, seriously, either quit the drugs or take a lot, lot more, Smackdown is as unrealistic as they come, THIS IS THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT. The game is gimmick after gimmick and it's good for a laugh and a half, but it's about as realistic as expecting a black president in our lifetime. When I said Japan has options I meant in everything, there isn't conglomeration because people aren't stupid, they don't go to Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle because some stupid people made it, they spend money based on quality, not just in wrestling, but it's no coincidence that video games launch first in Japan, because if it sells in Japan then you can make it a hit because it's a good game. And even if it doesn't, you can still make it a hit with enough money, see Smackdown versus Raw. Your arguement has one giant flaw, EVERY DAY people rediscover retro gaming, they sell arcade classics, rerelease Super Nintendo games on Gamecube and PlayStation, why? Because people are too lazy to make good games anymore. It's high risk, to make a good game, when they can just make it look good and get idiots like you to buy it.

I did some Aikido, it was different. I was used to the more popular forms like Shotoken and Judo. I loved me the Judo. I tried Bokken but I had already fenced with an Olympian so it was just ackward to train completely new motions. I definitely reccomend Judo, it's more reactionary then either Karate or Aikido. If you want ballance try Jiu-jitsu. It's a bit more of a mix between judo and ninjitsu. Or at least I assume it is, based on the name. I've never actually done any jiu-jitsu, though when I went crazy me and jiu-jitsu guy happened to meet each other and went through differences in blocks and throws. It's all the same, just learning it in a different order of importance, essentially. But yeah, judo has won me 3 street fights against faster but less intelligable opponents. So I nod judo.

There is. You're whats wrong with it. And this means what, exactly? That the majority of people are coperate tit suckers and refuse to try generic wrestling goodness? That everyone who doesn't have a label and the lastest graphics should fuck off? That's a retarded position, it's the reason McDonald's is still in business, that place dries liquid shit, microwaves it, and yet it sells to idiots like you because "I don't care about quality, I like hype, I am montonous, oh please, fuck me like the corporate whore I am, oh yeah, milk me for my allowance money". There should be a test and anyone who says "I'd rather the one with the better commercial" were decapitated so that the overall quality of the world wouldn't be dragged down by your lazy and predictable naiviety. They are, it's called Smackdown vs. Raw, now with BETTER HARDKORE GRAFIX AND NEW MUVIES! BUY IT! BUY! BUY! BUY! OR YOU WILL HAVE NO FRIENDS! CONFORM TO SOCIETY! LOVE THE FLASH! LOVE THE FLASH! LOVE THE FLASH! NOW KISS MY ASS. OH YEAH BABY, IT'S THE SAME FUCKING GAME. Oh wait, you said something else too. It's hard to tell where you stop speaking and the WWE preprogramming begins. Why exactly? I mean, for fucks sake, you do realize that there was a trillion dollar industry in Japan built on PlayStation roleplaying games that all looked exactly the same, and could be made at home as all the art was just derivative knock offs anyway, and yet it sold, why? Because Japanese people are smarter then people like you. While you're baaa baaaing for the latest liscenses Japan has OPTIONS. People make shit over there because there is a market for a better quality game. You don't give a shit because you're always going to take the one with the most commercials. "Have you ever considered that we are entertained by nothing at all?" Often. "Not nesscessarilly what says anything, or means anything, but what has the most money pumped into it." All the time. I see it every day, people like Media who hop on the popularity train and ride it through Stupid City into Comotose Valley, emerging chanting corporate mantras of "praise Unity, praise the Party, praise graphics". Stupid people like you get mad when you pay for better quality with less polish. Flash over famine, Media. Oh my god. Someone please slap this clueless idiot. When you bought SmackDown did you say "I'll be dissapointed if it doesn't play like WWF Wrestlemania for the Super Nintendo", no, you fucking clown, you bought it BECAUSE it was new, because it looked like an improvement. Take Tony Hawk. Through each game the engine has recieved minor tweaks and small graphical upgrades, and each time they refined down the gameplay. But they got it to a point where it was just "grind jump griiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind jump grind jump griiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind" and they might as well have just called it grind in a box. So they made a new game, and they seeked to bring back the feeling of the wacky levels they had developed and gotten backlash over. They decided to go back to the insane free falls and jumps and the "holy shit I'm going to break my neck" feeling extreme and overexagerated skateboarding is all about. People said it was a stupid idea to fuck a winner. They did it anyway. People bought it. Why? Because it made the game better. Let's get another anology shall we? Let's say the Pinto. Say they make a new Pinto. It still has all the same problems as before, but it comes in a NEW COLOR!!!!111111one And it has a STRIPE OMGOMGOMGOMG!!!!!! Would people buy it? Fuck no. There's a thing adults look for in products they buy, it's called quality. It's a grown up people concept and you might understand it when you step into the real world. The bottom line is that if you get pissed off because they made the game play better at the expense of adding in stupid and pointless graphical upgrades, you need a couple chairshots, Foley style. If all you care about are the graphics, why even buy the game? Why not just watch the movies put out on the web? I mean you don't need to play it to see the HARDCORE GRAFIX UPGWADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111onetwo It shouldn't have to be, they should create commentary that isn't annoyingly short of depth and aggravatingly repitiative. But then again, annoyingly repetetive and shallow in repeat value commentary is pefect for this overcommercialized piece of shit.

... WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, aw man, thanks Doc, I needed a goood laugh.

But he hasn't asked. And in the meantime he has blown other men. I'm just saying. I want Silverman as a host, so I'm highly biased. I think if they put her on and had Ben Stiller as a guest host even just for 3 episodes, you would never turn that shit off again. They have chemistry like Ben and Je(a)n, but Silverman is a lot racier and her improving on live TV would be like asking Scott Steiner to cut a promo on Lodi. It would be controversy in a can. It would be awesome.

I'd be cool with her being a working mom.

I watch MacEnroe, and Dennis Miller. I respect Miller, I disagree with him because he's a lot farther right then I am, but he doesn't take shit or sugarcoat his opinion, he's very passionate, and I can respect that as even when he's sarcastic, he's intelligent. MacEnroe isn't so great... it's pretty boring and at times unfunny. MacEnroe should be more self-depricating, liven up the mood a bit.

There already were Awesome Comics.

Retarded. People complain about the limited roster size which is blamed on the size of the disk but WWE somehow finds a way to jam in unrelated music for fuck knows what reason? Is this not making sense to anyone else?

If I get to tap that, I'm flaming out of the closet. This sodomy thing might grow on me.

I disagree. I think the Punisher is a pretty shitty hero. If he wasn't facing a complete jobber, and was up against... say, MacFarlane's Spawn, he'd get ker-pwn smashed because a unidimensional sack of shit.

Supreme (Image) vs. Superman (DC) (Gotta show some love for the nerds) Deadpool (Marvel) vs. Batman (DC) (Here come the men in black... heh, I love me the batman) The Punisher (Marvel) vs. Deathstroke (DC) (I don't know who the fuck Deathstroke is, I'm really more of a Marvel man) Green Lantern (DC) vs. Silver Surfer (Marvel) (Not that either of them are all that cool...) Static (Milestone) vs. Electro (Marvel) (Static? Who the fuck is this jobber?) Wonder Woman (DC) vs. Phoenix (Marvel) (mmmmmmmm... jean grey..... yummy) Spider-Man (Marvel) vs. Invincible (Image) (Nerds pwn) Venom (Marvel) vs. Bane (DC) (Venom kicks ass, the whole symbiote thing is perfectly done) Aqua Man (DC) vs. Namor The Sub-Mariner (Marvel) (Both of these guys are so terrible I refuse to take part in either of them winning)