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I know that Bill tends to keep the Diva's names longer even if they just use one, I cannot see this being any different to be honest, probably best to leave it as Big E. Langston As I said earlier, Diva names are fairly common, Big E isn't (unless it was a nick name or something.) Shawn Spears "debuted" on NXT as Tye Dillenger so rename him to Tye Dillenger. Does anyone have the stats for the newer WWE developmental talent not in the game (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE_Roster#Unassigned_personnel) like Marcus Louis (he was on NXT this week too, In an update to my Mexican wrestling update, somehow the data never got into the folders so I re-did it adding Kamitachi. Here it is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/vltevr Edit: shouldn't Aiden English be a heel with a movie star gimmick? Also CJ Parker turned heel turning into a hippie environmentalist. Not sure what that gimmick would be.

I know that Bill tends to keep the Diva's names longer even if they just use one, I cannot see this being any different to be honest, probably best to leave it as Antonio Cesaro Cesaro isn't as common as Diva names are though, many divas are generic. It's not like we are suggesting Billy as an alter ego name. Emma should be Santino Marella's manager. She accompanied him for his Main Event commentary last week and Raw match this week. Raise El Desperado's over to 46.His primary finisher should be Cannonball (top rope) and Flying Neckbreaker Drop (top rope standing) Switch Michael Bennett's primary and secondary finishers. Raise YOSHI-HASHI's speed to 62 and over to 35. Add Kamaitachi to the game. (didn't have clear enough knowledge on his previous identity to include him in the lucha update.)

I would make him a non-worker and see where it goes because he could act as a commissioner or something. Plus he also does announcing as well. I am working on a Mexican stat update (based on missed update suggestions back from as early as August.) Updates that are not included: Canelo Casas should have Wheelbarrel Side Slam as his finishers. Demus 3:16 should have Demus Driver as his primary finisher. Eita should be removed from AAA, he hasn't appeared since he returned to Japan in July/August. Rename Psicosis II to Reaper and Psyco Ripper to Psicosis. Click on spoilers if you want the full story. Apprently Puma King and Tiger have joined Peste Negra (no idea if Tiger is in or out of Bullet Club CMLL) Just wondering, why don't we rename Rey Escorpion to Escorpion Egipcio and Rey Scorpion to Rey Escorpion? Egipcio has only wrestled 5 times under that name (credit to Cagematch) while Rey Scorpion wrestled over 200 times under that name (credit to Cagematch) Apparently Puma King and Tiger are with Felino and Negro Casas as La Dinastia Casas and NOT Peste Negra. So this is a change I accounted for in my lucha update. http://www.sendspace.com/file/o1lpb5 This is the link for the Lucha Update.

I would make him a non-worker and see where it goes because he could act as a commissioner or something. Plus he also does announcing as well. I am working on a Mexican stat update (based on missed update suggestions back from as early as August.) Updates that are not included: Canelo Casas should have Wheelbarrel Side Slam as his finishers. Demus 3:16 should have Demus Driver as his primary finisher. Eita should be removed from AAA, he hasn't appeared since he returned to Japan in July/August. Rename Psicosis II to Reaper and Psyco Ripper to Psicosis. Click on spoilers if you want the full story. Apprently Puma King and Tiger have joined Peste Negra (no idea if Tiger is in or out of Bullet Club CMLL) Just wondering, why don't we rename Rey Escorpion to Escorpion Egipcio and Rey Scorpion to Rey Escorpion? Egipcio has only wrestled 5 times under that name (credit to Cagematch) while Rey Scorpion wrestled over 200 times under that name (credit to Cagematch)

Leo Kruger was still on NXT proper in January and Adam Rose just started to be on NXT and even Kruger is still on the roster page on WWE.com (yes they still have Epico and Primo too.)

As I mentioned last month, Ryan Katz (GQ Money/Fabian Kaelin/Rix Rexleplex) and Sara Del Ray COULD return if they are released. Brookside, I am not sure on but I wold keep him. WWE has more than enough trainers as it is. You don't need to be a non-worker to be an announcer. If you make Riley a non-worker, you only change him back through arsenic. What is Mickey Keegan now? Lana and Alexander Rusev should be on the main roster now.

I would wait until the May update to add them back, just so we can reform the roster based on the Aniversario card (the likely show)

That's a promotion I would look to add. They run more in Mexico than PR so I would say the promotion should be based in Mexico A good number of Puerto Rican talent, luchadores (some from AAA currently and other formerly with) and former WWE guys wrestle there their regular roster includes: Blue Demon Jr. Carlito Cien Caras Jr. Extreme Tiger Heddi Karaoui Hurrican Castillo (the former Jose Castillo) John Morrison Laredo Kid Leon Apolo (the former Apolo) Miguel Perez Jr. Mil Mascaras Monster Pain (the former Black Pain/Sweet Papi Sanchez) Mr. E (the former Eric Esobar) Sabu Savio Vega Sexy B (the former Bryan) Sicodelico Jr. Zumbi Debuting in March: Chavo Guerrero (Jr.) El Hijo del Medico Asesino (the former Benicio Salazar) Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. Juventud Guerrera Peligro Ricky Marvin Skayde In other news, I would add touring commitments for Flamita and Rocky Lobo (if he is added to the game) with Toryumon (Dragon Gate), according to TerceraCaida they are set to return to Japan in February.

I would wait on that, the Mistico signing was talked about for some time (I remember talks as early as 2008 with Rey Mysterio pushing for his signing but they went on deaf ears and really got louder throughout 2010 and into 2011.) The Sting "signing" has been rumored about during the last few years dating back to the 2011 erie videos for the Undertaker's return.

TNA Obviously I'm sure some people are gonna disagree on some things but this is roughly what it should be if we were to make it more realistic, obviously we'd need to lower ROH and every other decent indy star's Overness too, I hope Bill considers making it more realistic for the March or later updates. Big E Langston may not get a huge Ryback like pop but he is over. Plus he maybe too under for the IC title Also Fandando gets a pop mor for the theme rather than a true reaction so I would argue switching their overness. Bo Dallas is far too over at 67-68. On the main roster he would at most get the same response as Xavier Woods. Curtis Axel should be at 70 overness. As I previously mentioned with Hunico, his overness stat shouldn't be lowered (if anything raise it.) I'm not getting into spoilers but we all know the reason... Jay Bradley was released by TNA. Ryback I would lower his overness to 70. He is not that over at all. Sin Cara has reported that he is gone from WWE. I wouldn't tinker too much on overness as he is still somewhat of a name in Mexico and wold be in the main event with CMLL or AAA. Tito Ortiz is a known name so keep him in the mid 70's Kris Zellner is reporting Mini Chessman passed away so remove him from the game.

Shocker turned heel in CMLL.

Rename Tozawa and BxB Hulk to Hulk+Akira I think Brian Kendrick would be more over than New Jack. New Jack was super over in ECW but never really moved to the WWE or WCW world. Maybe put him on the same level as Gangrel because Gangrel was kinda over in WWE but likely get the same pop as New Jack in WWE. I would also argue to make Quacks 55 over. The last argument I say is to swap Shingo and Tozawa's overness. IMO Tozawa is more known on the indies (due to more recent and higher profile appearances than Shingo.

Lower Antonio Cesaro's overness to 76 Lower Brie Bella's overness to 70 Lower Christian's overness to 82 Lower Darren Young's overness to 64 Lower David Otunga's overness to 56 Lower Evan Bourne's overness to 57 (absolute max, could be lower) Lower Hunico's overness to 56 Lower JBL's overness to 82 Lower Luke Harper's overness to 72 Lower Titus O'Neil's overness to 64 Lower Tyson Kidd's overness to 60 Lower Zack Ryder's overness to 60 Additional WWE notes: - Alisha Ceraso has a corporate job with WWE now so she should be removed as a worker and moved to staff (I would butcher any staff stats so I cannot provide anything that would be accurate) - Add Bob Backlund to an open contract. - Lower Chris Jericho's overness to 95 as well. He is a legitimate star, but he was not a ratings or buyrate mover on the level of Brock Lesnar, for example, last time he was around. I perceive him is on the same legendary level as Ric Flair, Bret Hart or Mick Foley - Add DDP to an open contract. Idk if he officially has a legend's contract, but he is often a talking head and keeps getting brought in for the old school stuff. More regular than someone like Rikishi. - Finlay should be moved from wrestler to staff (road agent). I know there was a debate about this type of thing before but I'm just throwing it out there since it seems at least while he is with WWE he will not be wrestling in any capacity. - Hunico's position should be lowered to a developmental deal. Same as Camacho. - Add Jim Duggan to an open contract. - Joey Mercury should be moved from wrestler to staff (trainer). Hasn't wrestled since 2010. No since in keeping him as a wrestler if we're shooting for realism. No one is jumping to re-add Sgt. Slaughter as a worker, for example, even though he has wrestled more recently. - John Laurinaitis should be moved from wrestler to staff (road agent). Once again if we're not going to re-add all the guys that may make an appearance like Sgt. Slaughter or Ted DiBiase than it's just a unnecessary double standard and he should be removed. - Kevin Nash should be removed. Legend deals are iffy, but I think the only one's that should stay are ones that do regular stuff like the panels or appear on the Old School Raws. - Rob Van Dam should be removed. Same as Chris Jericho he isn't officially under contract as of today (I wouldn't count out either returning at the Rumble is why I say that but until that happens I think we should plan for them to be removed). - Robbie Brookside should be moved from wrestler to staff(?). Idk much about whether he still takes indy booking, but I am under the presumption that if you are working for WWE you aren't working anywhere else, and he has yet to work a match in WWE. - Add Roddy Piper to an open contract. - Add Ron Simmons to an open contract. - Ryan Katz and Sara Del Rey should be moved from wrestler to staff(?). See: Robbie Brookside. Alicia Fox should be at 63, she is just above Aksana. Antonio Cesaro should be at 78. Swagger barely gets any heat on his own. Brie Bella should be at about 72. Total Divas got her decently over. Chris Jericho gets more of a reaction than Batista so I would make them equals at 96. Christian's overness is fine as is. The crowds respond to him when he is active. Darren Young should be at 66. Evan Bourne should be at 68 and no lower. The guy is over because fans know him for the shooting star press. Hunico notes: JBL still gets fan chants during boring matches (not even Post Mania) so I would make him at about 85. Luke Harper should be at 73 if Rowan is at 72. He does have notice from the indies. Nikki Bella should be at about 70. Rob Van Dam is under contract but is part-time and works three months on, three months off. Titus O'Neil should be at 68 as he is seemingly getting the overness out of the two PTP. Tyson Kidd should be at 62. Zack Ryder should be at 64 IMO. He can get an OK fan pop similar to a Koko B. Ware but not many people take him serious when it comes to a match. The legend contract is touchy because some do show up semi-regularly, others don't. I would not switch Brookside, Katz, Laurenitis and Del Rey to staff, they are young enough to return to the indies if they are let go. Compare that to Finlay who would likely be retiring into month two. I am not sure on Mercury. I would agree on Ceraso being removed. I think she works Admin with WWE so just get rid of her altogether.

Rename to PJ Friedman

where did you hear that last part? I know its still a month away and we don't know how it will work out yet, how will the WWE Network affect the game? I mean should it be included in the networks, and should NXT be added to the list of WWE shows since it will be on the network? Also how will having the PPV's on the network effect the PPV's in general? Just a bit curious on thoughts on this from people. I agree that it is muddy but I think it should remain PPV for now due to the fact that besides DirectTV (who have always been stingy with wrestling) no cable provider has rumored to drop the PPVs in light of the Network. If anything I would see WWE Network as a new network in the game. Two problems NXT is a developmental program NXT airs the same night as Main Event currently which is impossible in the game. The only "free day" is Tuesday or Saturday (due to PPV) Isn't The Scene still active in FIP? I know it isn't with Scott Reed anymore but do the refer to Larry Dallas' stable of wrestlers (Johnny Vandal and The Bravados) as well as Trina Michaels? I would personally leave Monster Express for the time being as Tozawa was active during the second to last DGUSA weekend (and I think went face) and Ricochet and Uhaa Nation are both active in DGUSA. Though since the Evolve merger, the Dragon Gate emphasis has gone down dramatically. In an update, I would remove Mini Park from the game because it is the deceased Gemelo Muerte II. Also the Comando Negro and Canis Lupus I said to add previously (I think in November) Source: Luchawiki You're right about the Scene, I just meant remove the DG-Evo version of the Stable. Change the members to Larry Dallas (Leader), Johnny Vandal, Harlem Bravado, Lanceolt Bravado and Trina Michaels. If you think that Monster Express should be left in the game that's fine, leave the stable in for the time being, and see if there's any mention of the stable at the February DGUSA shows Give Tony Nese a touring commitment with Toryumon With the (possible) change over from DG-EVO and FIP to WWN, that was why I said The Scene should stay in due to being active in FIP. Tony Nese only did a single tour with Dragon Gate but no report of a return is coming. This is why I also didn't suggest Toryumon commitments for Mike Sydal, Flamita or Rocky Lobo (though not in the game.) If they return, sure. I do agree with the LLUSA removal, they have only ran a handful of shows the last year. IF DG-EVO and FIP are merged into WWN, Here's what the events should look like IMO, January: Evolve January February: DGUSA Way of the Ronin March: FIP Establish Dominance April: DGUSA Mercury Rising May: Evolve May June: Evolve June July: DGUSA Enter The Dragon August: FIP Heat Stroke September: Evolve September October: FIP With Malice November: DGUSA Freedom Fight December: FIP In Full Force As for Networks I think Fox Sports 1 should be added (This is different than Fox Sports Regional in that it is a single network rather than Regional being the former Sports Channel localized networks.) I would say everything should be similar to NBC Sports Net.

Isn't The Scene still active in FIP? I know it isn't with Scott Reed anymore but do the refer to Larry Dallas' stable of wrestlers (Johnny Vandal and The Bravados) as well as Trina Michaels? I would personally leave Monster Express for the time being as Tozawa was active during the second to last DGUSA weekend (and I think went face) and Ricochet and Uhaa Nation are both active in DGUSA. Though since the Evolve merger, the Dragon Gate emphasis has gone down dramatically. In an update, I would remove Mini Park from the game because it is the deceased Gemelo Muerte II. Also the Comando Negro and Canis Lupus I said to add previously (I think in November) Source: Luchawiki

I would cut down the Japanese talent though to fix that. Akira Tozawa last appeared in July 2013 BxB Hulk last appeared in March 2012 (remove) CIMA last appeared in July 2013 Eita last appeared in July 2013 (I would only remove because he is listed on the guest/alumni roster) (Also remove from AAA) Genki Horiguchi last appeared in November 2012 (remove) Masaaki Mochizuki last appeared in November 2013 Masato Yoshino last appeared in March 2012 (remove) Naruki Doi last appeared in January 2012 (remove) SHINGO last appeared in April 2013 (remove) Susumu Yokosuka last appeared in November 2013 T-HAWK last appeared in July 2013 (I would only remove because he is listed on the guest/alumni roster) YAMATO last appeared in July 2012 (remove) So that's eight removals just from Dragon Gate talent. Looking at FIP Aaron Epic, David Ryze (most recent with WWN Live), Jonathan Gresham, Mr. Milo Beasley & Sugar Dunkerton last wrestled there in July so I think they can be removed. Amasis last appeared in July so I think he could be removed. Corey Hollis last wrestled there in March so I think he can be removed. Homicide and Tommy Taylor last wrestled there in April so I think they can be removed. Kenneth Cameron last wrestled there in August so I think he can be removed. NOTE: Shane Strickland last wrestled in July but still wrestles for DGUSA and Evolve as of November so keep him That's ten more removals from FIP, making 18 total removals for the promotion. That is on top of removing Scott Reed, Arik Cannon and Papadon as per my previous post. Information on WCA: Wrestling Cares Association can be found here I would add Aaron Aguilera, Adam Cole, Adam Page, Adam Pearce, Alex Koslov, B-Boy, Brandon Gatson, Brian Cage, Cassidy Riley, Drake Younger, Johnny Gargano (over 2CW), Katarina Leigh, Kyle Mathews, Oliver John, Papadon, Pepper Parks, Rocky Romero, Ryan Taylor, Scorpio Sky, Shane Ballard, Shannon Ballard, Steve Anthony, Timothy Thatcher & Willie Mack. Add Wesley David Richards, Dave Richards and Derek Billington for Davey Richards alter egos. Add John Cahill for Eddie Edwards alter egos.

I agree with WWN as a promotion, especially with the interconnection. I would make Sal the owner and Satoshi Oji an unsackable road agent. I don't think we should DGUSA and Evolve as seperate brands. Most in those two float (to an extent FIP is as well.) Roster: Aaron Epic: FIP Akira Tozawa: DGUSA Amasis: FIP Andrew Everett: EVOLVE/FIP AR Fox: DGUSA/EVOLVE Arik Cannon: Remove from DG-EVO Biff Busick: EVOLVE BxB Hulk: DGUSA Caleb Konley: DGUSA/EVOLVE/FIP Chasyn Rance: FIP Chris Hero: DGUSA/EVOLVE Christina Von Eerie: DGUSA Chuck Taylor: DGUSA/EVOLVE CIMA: DGUSA Corey Hollis: FIP David Starr: FIP Derek Ryze: FIP Drew Gulak: DGUSA/EVOLVE Eddie Cruz: FIP Eita: DGUSA Genki Horiguchi: DGUSA Gran Akuma: FIP Harlem Bravado: DGUSA/EVOLVE/FIP Homicide: Remove from FIP Jake Manning: Remove from DG-EVO Jay Rios: FIP Jigsaw: DGUSA/EVOLVE Johnny Gargano: DGUSA/EVOLVE Johnny Vandal: FIP Jon Davis: DGUSA/EVOLVE/FIP Jon Williams: FIP Jonathan Gresham: FIP Kenneth Cameron: FIP Lancelot Bravado: DGUSA/EVOLVE/FIP Latin Dragon: FIP Larry Dallas: DGUSA/EVOLVE/FIP Leva Bates: FIP Lince Dorado: FIP Mark Angelosetti: EVOLVE Masaaki Mochizuki: DGUSA Masato Yoshino: DGUSA Matt Jackson: DGUSA/EVOLVE Mia Yim: DGUSA/EVOLVE/FIP Mister Saint Laurent: FIP Mr. Milo Beasley: FIP Naoki Tanisaki/T-HAWK: DGUSA Naruki Doi: DGUSA Nick Jackson: DGUSA/EVOLVE Orange Cassidy: DGUSA/EVOLVE Papadon: Remove? Pinkie Sanchez: FIP Rich Swan: DGUSA/EVOLVE/FIP Scott Reed: Remove from FIP Shane Strickland: EVOLVE/FIP SHINGO: DGUSA Sugar Dunkerton: FIP Susumu Yokosuka: DGUSA Teddy Stigma: FIP Tommy Taylor: FIP Tony Nese: DGUSA/EVOLVE Trent Barreta: EVOLVE/FIP Trey Williams: FIP Trina Michaels: FIP Uhaa Nation: DGUSA/EVOLVE/FIP YAMATO: DGUSA As you can see there are a good number of FIP only talent and a decent number of DGUSA only guys (mainly from Japan) and the rest wrestle in two out of three if not all three. Add a new stable with Tony Nese, Trent Barreta and Mia Yim called Premier Athlete Brand What about adding Wrestling Cares Association as a promotion. A large number of the talent are in the game.

For what it's worth, Sonjay worked the "Old School" One Night Only that was taped two weeks ago (airs next month, I believe). For what it's worth, One Night Only is virtually fan fiction for TNA. Half of the guys brought in for the shows are inactive. 2 Cold Scorpio, Alissa Flash, Anthony Nese, Bob Holly, Brother Runt, Cassidy Riley, Chase Stevens, Devon Storm, El Mesias, Funaki, Homicide, Ivelisse, Jackie Moore, Jerry Lynn, Jillian Hall, Johnny Devine, Johnny Swinger, Little Guido, Matt Jackson, Nick Jackson, Rashad Cameron, Santana, Serena, Sinn, Slash, Sojo Bolt, Tommy Dreamer and Trinity have all appeared on One Night Onlys, only to not be used again by TNA in a sustained way. Other than Old School, Sonjay has not been on Impact or the REAL PPV in months so remove him from TNA.

Then what do we name the original, Sin Cara I? CMLL owns Mistico so he won't be Mistico and judging by the bad blood with CMLL, he ain't going back.

Rename Hunico to Sin Cara II, word is going around that the original is done with WWE and wont be resigned when his deal is up in about a week.

Japan notes: Akebono should have All Japan as his touring commitment. D'Lo Brown should have All Japan as his touring commitment. James Raidwen should have Zero-1 as his touring commitment. Kenou should have Pro Wrestling NOAH as his touring commitment. Namajague has returned to New Japan as El Desperado. Add New Japan as a touring commitment and rename him. Sugi San should have Pro Wrestling NOAH as his touring commitment (he is Dual Force.) TAKA Michinoku is no longer doing New Japan (besides FantasticaMania) so remove that from his touring commitments. Takao Omori should have All Japan as his touring commitment. Ultimo Dragon has jumped to All Japan so make that his touring commitment.

Thanks Bill I think Leo Kruger is still on tap for NXTs in the can under that gimmick so I would wait and see. I would wait on Batista's alignment until his debut. Itcould end up like Jericho when he returned seemingly as face only to never speak for the first few weeks... Add Randy Orton and Vickie Guerrero to the Authority. This is an issue Bill runs into a lot (similar to the ______ AAA you see.) There are a lot of woman (not so much men) who just use first names. Namely Tiffany. There has been and continues to be a Tiffany in Mexico who used the name before Taryn Terrell ever did. Bill normally doesn't drop the last names of Divas because of the off chance there is another or will be another. For Instance, there is another Natalya in the game. I think the only divas he's done that with was Paige. Other than that they've kept their last name. Even if Bobby Heenan didn't work again (And he doesn't have to because he has absolutely nothing to prove) why should all his stats be 0? I seriously doubt that because he hasn't managed full time for 10 years that he has suddenly lost all ability to do it. I like him in the game. I like using managers and even today he would be in the top few I go to, its all about Fantasy Booking He's had his jaw completely rebuilt, struggles to speak as a result of that and his cancer treatments, and sometimes struggles to walk unaided.It's got nothing to do with the fact that he's not worked full-time in decades, it's because he would be physically unable to do so again. Of course I know about medical problems but half the point of EWR is fantasy booking so ith Heenan as one of the better names why not keep him? Even with his Medical conditions he hasn't lost all abilities to warrant 0 stats IMO Yes I know you can say "Just add him in if you want him" but it's also just as easy to leave him in and people who don't want him can delete him. "Yes I know that he can barely walk. Lower his technical to 37." Come on dude, you're being ridiculous. Heenan should be removed. Looking at hippie's post - are the Authority seriously not yet in the game as a stable? Surely one of the top priorities of these updates should be keeping WWE (and I suppose to an extent TNA) as up to date with current events as possible? I agree, Hennan is done. managers need to be mouthpieces (in the game) so having a manager that can barely speak wouldn't work. Rename Psyco Ripper to Psicosis and Psiscosis II to Reaper (Psyco Ripper's second rename as referenced in.)

As for stats for Dewey Barnes. RoH Spoilers:

Not really, it can be used to get the crowd pumped for the next match. Not a good enough reason to drop charisma down IMO.