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pigeon

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  1. The four team rule is what has confused the whole issue. At least they have cleared it up for the future.
  2. There aren't any more teams in the CL than last year.
  3. Fenerbahce have got Liverpool's place. There was a place there for them all along. If the FA had nominated Liverpool instead of Everton, Fenerbahce would have been moved up because there would be one team less in the competition. 1) UEFA reserve a separate place in the draw (the TH spot, top seeds) for the Champions League winners so no club/country misses out by being bumped from the Champions League if a situation arises where a club wins the competition but fails to qualify domestically. As such there's no complications in "rejigging" the draw as suggested by many clueless journos as UEFA have already taken account of this situation. TH = title holder (Liverpool in 2005 ) 2) If the CL winners also qualify for the CL through their domestic league the TH spot is not utilised (though the club remains top seeded) and the qualifying clubs move up one place in the seedings and the draw with the following happening: a) Fenerbahce, Champions of Turkey, progress from Qualifying Round 3 straight into the Group Stages. b) Wisla Krakow, Champions of Poland move from QR2 to QR3 c) The Champions of Romania and Slovakia (yet to be determined) move from QR1 to QR2. 3) If the CL winners don't qualify domestically no problem, there's an extra place for that country and their CL winners take the TH place and the draw doesn't change, Fernebache et al staying in their respective place ... unless the club happens to come from Spain, Italy or England (the countries who already have four places) ... UEFA have one rule for 49 countries, and one for the other three. 4) In this case the country's FA can decide to bump their fourth place domestic team down into the UEFA Cup and allow the CL winners to take their place - it's not a set rule but entirely at the discretion of the FA concerned. The English FA has decided to nominate Everton. 5) The piece on the English FA's website in March 2004 re: Arsenal and Chelsea wasn't a press release but a Q&A some minnion at the FA website answered. In 2000 Madrid finished 5th in La Liga and won the CL and Spain used their discretion to bump 4th placed Zaragoza down to the UEFA Cup. From uefa.com: List of 2005/06 CL Qualifiers: Pos Assoc. Grp UCL Q3 UCL Q2 UCL Q1 TH (1) 1 ESP CH RU N3 N4 (12) 2 ENG CH RU N3 N4 3 ITA CH RU N3 N4 4 GER CH RU N3 (9) 5 FRA CH RU N3 6 POR CH RU N3 7 GRE CH RU (18) 8 NED CH RU 9 CZE CH RU 10 TUR CH RU 11 SCO CH RU 12 BEL CH RU 13 SUI CH RU 14 UKR CH RU 15 NOR CH RU 16 POL CH (35) 17 ISR CH 18 AUT CH 19 SCG CH 20 BUL CH 21 RUS CH 22 DEN CH 23 CRO CH 24 SWE CH 25 HUN CH 26 ROU CH 27 SVK CH 28 SLO CH 29 CYP CH 30 MOL CH 31 LAT CH 32 FIN CH 33 BIH CH 34 GEO CH 35 MKD CH 36 LTU CH 37 BLS CH 38 ISL CH 39 MLT CH 40 IRL CH 41 ARM CH 42 WAL CH 43 LIE CH 44 ALB CH 45 NIR CH 46 EST CH 47 LUX CH 48 AZE CH 49 FAR CH 50 KAZ CH
  4. Three teams have been moved up a round each. There was already a place for Liverpool (the title holder place).
  5. £46 for a Northern club? Ridiculous.
  6. d) was the title holders (Liverpool (Y) ) moving into QR1. I think we all knew that though.
  7. We didn't replace anyone. As title holders there is a place for us. a) Fenerbahce, Champions of Turkey, move into the into the Group Stages. b) Wisla Krakow, Champions of Poland move from QR2 to QR3 c) The Champions of Romania and Slovakia (yet to be determined) move from QR1 to QR2. So we've been bumped back to the first qualifying round because UEFA didn't fix the problem in the rules years ago. And people act like we've been done a favour.
  8. He's a fantastic player, who rarely gets the credit he deserves. He would have been very difficult to replace, and it would break my heart to see him play for another English club. Looks like Kirkland is going on loan to West Brom for a season too. Could be good for him if he gets a long injury free run in their first team. A chance to prove he has what it takes to make it at Liverpool.
  9. Hopefully not. One of the best things about him is the way he hasn't become a big shot. He's stayed true to his roots. Even before last night he's made more than enough to move away.
  10. But club means much more than just current players and staff. You don't become a great club overnight. Spurs and Arsenal are greater clubs than Chelsea, without even leaving London.
  11. Great fight. Well worth buying on PPV. Well, the main event was ... the undercard was awful. Danny Williams is finished. Hatton is just relentless. Even when Kostya seemed to be getting the better, he just kept coming, and Kostya had no answer at the end. Great to see the sportsmanship before and after the fight from both men. Hatton will get a few money-spinners out of this now. He deserves it.
  12. Lampard and Terry have done their own bit of tapping up on Chelsea's behalf.
  13. Highly doubtful, mind you. ←
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