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Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

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Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.
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I prefer Peter Gabriel era Genesis. By a wide margin, too. Only thing I didn't like in the early Genesis albums were the lyrics, which I never quite understood, but the music was brilliant.

It wasn't like Genesis sold out, the music was still good after Gabriel left, but it took a different direction without him, into something like consumer good as opposed to the art that it used to be.

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I prefer Peter Gabriel era Genesis. By a wide margin, too. Only thing I didn't like in the early Genesis albums were the lyrics, which I never quite understood, but the music was brilliant.

It wasn't like Genesis sold out, the music was still good after Gabriel left, but it took a different direction without him, into something like consumer good as opposed to the art that it used to be.

I'm not overly keen on Gabriel era Genesis but I like Collins Era Genesis.

On the flipside, I do not care for solo Collins but I love solo Gabriel.

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Curses.

I was hoping the point of this thread was just to come in here and say what we want about Phil Collins.

Who says we can't :pervert:

Phil Collins is a prancer. Word on the street [and I use that term loosely] is that Phil Collins wrote "In The Air Tonight" because he once saw a guy let another guy drown. If this is true I believe that there's been a grand injustice going on for over 20 years! If I know Phil Collins [which I don't] i can bet he's sitting back in Vice City right now sippy down hundred dollar drinks playing shuffle board and laughing at the poor sucker he didn't toss a couple of floaties to.

So Collins saw the guy who saw the guy who drowned? So that must mean he saw the guy who drowned, drown.... so why didn't Mr. Collins help the drowning guy? Mmm? Maybe his pastil suit would've got wet. Or he was too busy writing the song at the time.

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