Dynamite

Toothless in attack too.

Hull were close to signing Long for around the 6mil mark in the summer.

I've always been a big Welbeck fan too. He's benefited massively from Van Persie being injured. Last year he was mostly shunted to the left wing where he struggled to get involved in the box as much. Now he's up top, he's getting to use his main qualities in the areas of the pitch you want him to be in. Kagawa has looked a bit too timid for me. Nice touch and good movement, but doesn't have the strength to cope when a challenge comes in (any time Leroy Fer barged through him, for example).

Welbeck's been great lately. Keeps the ball so well, he's strong, fast, works hard and looks to have been working hard on his composure in front of goal.

Evra has been shocking today. The defence looks so uncertain whenever it's tested and the attack is just incredibly pedestrian. Lucky not to be a goal behind here.

How are Cleverley and Carrick comparable to the other "partnerships" you've put up? The majority are attacking midfielders, not centre mids. We've still got the exact same squad that walked to the title last season. Stop over-reacting.

Yeah it's Woodward's fault. Moyes has probably gone to him with a list of players he wants and Woodward hasn't got it done. I suspect a lot of this is the club/Glazers don't want to spend too much and instead the money is going into their own pockets rather than on a player.

West Brom losing Long and Lukaku in the same summer and replacing them with Anichebe and Anelka is a massive downgrade.

How good is Herrera? Can't remember ever watching him, even the time that Bilbao side ran rings around us in the Europa League.

Decent business for Atletico Madrid too. £4mil profit for a guy they signed on a free transfer two months ago and hasn't even played for them.

Really hope Moyes signs a player tomorrow. I expect it to be Fellaini, which would baffle me because we probably could have offered Everton the same amount of money two months ago and given him time to settle in rather than waiting for the last day of the window. Arsenal getting Ozil would be a great signing for them and the kind I wish we were in for. He'd really give us an extra bit of creativity in the attacking midfield position that was missing today and against Chelsea.

My plan worked.

Over an hour gone in all four games and it's 0-0 everywhere!

Shakhtar will be tough. Leverkusen is alright. Napoli are the team to avoid now.

This is a shambles

Ashley Young, whenever there's a webcam about.

I'd have probably taken a draw before the match but after that game, I think we could have won it. We lacked a playmaker to unlock the Chelsea defence (Kagawa would have been good in this game) or a winger who could have put some dangerous balls into the box (Young put in a couple decent ones late on). If we had Rafael at RB giving us a few more options down the wing instead of Jones and maybe Nani or Kagawa in the side, I think we could have created a few more clear cut chances. Still, we looked decent and not every side we play is going to be as well defensively organised as Chelsea. Decent point and definitely optimistic that we're only going to get better once we get a couple players back and a few games under our belts.

So if Sky was to just make up a rumour of an English club joining the race for Bale even though they know he's 99% off to Madrid, loads of punters start assuming this mystery club is United/Chelsea/City and lump on a few quid on them at fairly decent odds (United to sign Bale has gone from 14/1 to 6/1 I read), Skybet would make back a fair bit of whatever they lose when Bale does go to Madrid? Or is that an over-simplification of the way the betting market works since I'd assume they'd have to change the odds of him going to Real too?

Cheeky £2 on a score draw at 7/2 and another on Berbatov anyime at 11/4. Will probably stick bigger bets on the games later today but will wait for team news to come out first.

Is this brother that died the same one that massively fucked over Raith Rovers a few years ago by doing stuff like signing a bunch of 5-a-side players from France?

I've seen loads of people on other forums say they bet on Celtic for this match and I just couldn't see why. Away to a side from Kazakhstan is always going to be difficult when you factor in the travelling, the different atmosphere and the fact Karagandy will be really up for it. I'd expect Celtic to win at home when all of those reasons are pretty much reversed.

Given our summer transfer policy so far, I wouldn't be shocked if the BBC Sport headline one of these days was "Barcelona reject Man Utd's £25mil bid for Messi".

Acca didn't win, West Ham at evens at home against a newly promoted side was free money, and Walters ruined that last one by missing his penalty. Went for a last minute £10 double on Van Wolfswinkel to score and the Arsenal game to be over 2.5 goals. That came in so I lumped the winnings on Van Persie anytime at 11/10. Nice way to start the season off!

Jenkinson with Diaby's face too!

Kieran Gibbs gets injured in almost every single Arsenal game I watch.