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They aren't on the same tier as WWE. Nobody is at this point. No one else has such a global presence. While TNA has done shows in Europe and elsewhere, so has AAA, I believe. WWE does shows worldwide. It has the largest market share and market penetration by far. Its stars are undoubtedly the biggest in the world and there isn't really a close #2. TNA is the #2, clearly, but they are far behind. I would say 85% at national while WWE is 78% at global makes sense, though.

By the way, obviously a huge thank you for continuing with these updates, Bill. I haven't said it in a while but it's pretty amazing how you're able to put these out every month and have done so for so long. Anybody else think TNA should be around 85% National now? They've been doing well in arenas around the US and have a dozen stars who are globally recognized. Just a thought, but I feel like 73% is more representative of where they were in 2011. I'm pretty sure I made a ton of TNA change suggestions last update that haven't been done yet, so I'll hold off.

WWE stats suggestions: Raise Alberto Del Rio's stiffness to 50 - his kicks look really good and I feel like 42 is just a tad low since he does a lot of strikes and holds that all look crisp Raise Antonio Cesaro's selling to 78 - he is better than 73... guy can have a really good psychology-based match with anyone and never seems to under-sell opponent's offense Raise Big E Langston's over to 69 - The guy has destroyed Kane, Cena, etc. and has been accompanying Ziggler and AJ for a few months now while getting solid crowd reactions Lower Brock Lesnar's speed to 45 - I haven't seen him do any real speed-based stuff since his return and he's not as quick as he was in even 2004 and 52 is just one point lower than Cody Rhodes who does springboard kicks and Fandango who does flying legdrops and stuff Raise Christian's speed to 65 - I know he hasn't been wrestling regularly lately but he's still able to do speed-based matches with the younger guys Raise Dean Ambrose's charisma to 87 - Like the person above me I don't know why it was lowered. He's the main promo guy of The Shield and the segments have been really good, plus he's capable of so much more that he hasn't even displayed yet. Lower Dolph Ziggler's charisma to 85 - I'm surprised he's so high at 89 Lower Drew McIntyre's charisma to 81 Lower Jerry Lawler's charisma to 88 - I know he's one of the best commentators but he's definitely lost some steps and says a lot of dumb things during commentary. I get that commentary is tough but he's not as charismatic as he used to be. Lower John Cena's charisma to 94 - I wouldn't class him as "ultra-charismatic" with the level of promos he's been cutting the last few years. He seems forced and cheesy at times. I get he's still ultra-popular and deserves the 99 over, but his actual promos tend to lack something. Lower Kassius Ohno's speed to 66 - 71 seems a bit high for him Lower Kevin Nash's charisma to 90 - 94 is really high for the guy's promos Lower Randy Orton's charisma to 83 - The guy doesn't cut promos on the level of anyone above that and even with his natural charisma it's pushing it Raise Ric Flair's charisma to 97 - The guy's still one of the best promos in wrestling and has something special that most guys never will Raise Roman Reigns' over to 78 - Dean Ambrose is 79 and right now Reigns is 73, too far behind his Shield teammate Lower R-Truth's over to 81 Lower Ryback's speed to 45 and raise technical to 39 Raise Seth Rollins' over to 78 and selling to 87 Raise Shawn Michaels' selling to 92 Lower Sheamus' charisma to 85 Raise Tyson Kidd's speed to 80 Lower Vickie Guerrero's charisma to 82 - another losing battle but come on, her promos and segments aren't that good. She gets booed because she's annoying as shit and usually only shows up to deliver news that pisses off the fans. Lower Zack Ryder's over to 70 - he's gone down a bit in terms of popularity since his brief US Title reign

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Wrong section bud. Yeah so considering this new forum layout is brand new I wasn't exactly which forum to put this in, but considering it would pertain to my modding of the game, I figured this one was the right choice. IDOL can move it if he wants. So if it's 81 for too stiff, would it be 19 and lower for "he wasn't selling enough?" btw i love "wrong section guy" he always comes out of nowhere Wrong section bud. Yeah so considering this new forum layout is brand new I wasn't exactly which forum to put this in, but considering it would pertain to my modding of the game, I figured this one was the right choice. IDOL can move it if he wants. So if it's 81 for too stiff, would it be 19 and lower for "he wasn't selling enough?" btw i love "wrong section guy" he always comes out of nowhere I believe it's 19 or 29 or lower for stiffness when a guy isn't convincing. Not sure if other stats/variables come into play. As for not selling enough, it may be 39 or below. This is something you'd probably need to test out by using a light game, maybe the default 2003 data?

Fair enough. That said, a lot of guys in this update have 95s in some skill sets, so it doesn't make sense to have people with 0's... EDIT: You don't have people with 0 over unless they are literally unknown/backyarders/haven't debuted anywhere yet. You don't have anyone with 0 brawl because I think everyone can at least pretend to punch or kick. Everyone can run as well or execute the most basic moves like headlocks or what have you.

Which is it? Personally, I'd say lowering his speed is a better idea. By 2002, Liger's style wasn't too speed-centric, and a lot more methodical and mat-based. I don't see why Low-Ki should have shooting ability ticked - he's a stiff worker, but as far as I know, he has no background in any shoot fighting. I'd bring Raven's charisma down. 97 is absurd. The second was a typo. The 87/78 stats were for Juventud Guerrera, not Jushin Liger. It's been fixed. Low Ki has shoot fighting ticked in the current game and I'm pretty sure he's trained in MMA. Raven was one of the best promos in wrestling for a solid decade from around '95 to '05. His promos in NWA: TNA, especially during the feuds with Jarrett, Sabu, and some of the darker heel stables were phenomenal. Having a 0 in any stat to me means the guy can't work that style AT ALL. Big Show may not be lighting the world on fire with speed-based matches, but he's better than 0. I actually suggested stats that are lower than modern day stats in many cases, so disputing it here means disputing it in the modern day updates by Bill1996 as well. I based a lot of stats on Bill's and adjusted for the time period because he's the best, most consistent updater around today.

This is in the wrong section, but I believe a minimum of 81 stiffness is when you'll start getting the "this wrestler is known for working stiff" description when viewing their bio. I assume the same criteria is used. However, I have had people with lower attitude complain about stiffness/a wrestler not being on their level at varying points.

I'm looking through the data and have suggestions on stats and stuff. I don't know how much you want to tweak them since it's just one man's opinion, but I'll provide them: Raise 911's brawl to 40, speed to 2, tech to 3 Raise AJ Styles' speed to 86 Lower Amazing Red's tech to 72 Raise American Dragon's tech to 85 Raise Anthony Durante's speed to 7 and tech to 13 Raise Austin Aries' tech to 65 Raise Bam Bam Bigelow's speed to 25 and tech to 27 Raise Big Show's brawl to 73, speed to 11, tech to 22 I have more suggestions but that's just from what I've looked at. EDIT: Raise Billy Kidman's charisma to 50 and lower speed to 84 Lower Bob Sapp's stiffness to 88 and raise charisma to 79 Raise Booker T's speed to 50 and tech to 62 Lower Bret Hart's brawl and tech to 40 or so... this was after he had a stroke that left him wheelchair-bound for a while, right? Raise Brock Lesnar's over to 85. He wound up winning KOTR and the WWE Title shortly after this scenario. Raise Bubba Ray's speed to 15 and tech to 25. Raise Chris Benoit's tech to 94 and lower speed to 70 Raise Christopher Daniels' charisma to 86 Raise CM Punk's charisma to 77 EDIT: Raise Dave Taylor's tech to 71 Raise Diamond Dallas Page's brawl to 72, tech to 44, and charisma to 92 Lower D-Lo Brown's speed to 60 and raise tech to 61 Lower Eddie Guerrero's brawl to 79 and raise speed to 85 Raise Edge's charisma to 88 and lower speed to 66 Raise El Dandy's speed to 67 Lower Frank Shamrock's tech to 70 (I know he was a phenomenal mma fighter but 87 is ridiculous considering he wasn't really a pro wrestler) Lower Frankie Kazarian's speed to 81 Raise Gary Wolfe's speed to 5 and tech to 11 Raise Goldust's speed to 16 Raise Haku's over to 60 and tech to 8 Hayabusa - I don't know what to do. He was partially paralyzed at this time and definitely not wrestling. I would put all his wrestling stats in the single digits... but 42 is low for his over - I'd raise that to 65 EDIT: I think Hogan was just going as Hulk Hogan by this point - he had won the WWF Title from HHH and lost it to Taker, and I think he was a full-fledged babyface. I would raise his stiffness to 20 and tech to 7 Raise Homicide's brawl to 68, speed to 71, and tech to 69 Lower Honky Tonk Man's charisma to 82 Raise Horace Hogan's speed to 6 and tech to 9 Raise Hernandez's speed to 45 and tech to 40 Raise Hugh Morrus' brawl to 69, speed to 28, and tech to 20 Raise Ian Rotten's speed to 9 and tech to 18 Raise Iceberg's speed to 3 and tech to 4 Raise Jake Roberts' charisma to 88 and lower his behavior to 35 EDIT: Lower James Storm's speed to 65 and tech to 65, raise charisma to 70 Lower Jamie Noble's speed to 82 Raise Jay Lethal's speed to 72 Raise Jeff Hardy's speed to 81 and charisma to 77 Raise Jerry Lynn's speed to 82 and lower tech to 86 Raise Jimmy Jacobs' over to 14, brawl to 48, speed to 75, and tech to 55 Raise Jimmy Yang's speed to 89 Raise JJ Dillon's charisma to 76 Joanie Laurer was touring with NJPW at this point, I believe - might want to check Raise Jody Fleisch's speed to 83 John Kronus should be a non-wrestler as he retired around this time - Silly as it seems, I'd raise his tech to 20 and speed to 40, though Lower Josh Prohibition's speed to 77 Lower Jushin Liger's speed to 81 Raise Justin Credible's speed to 37, tech to 58, over to 66, and charisma to 80 Raise Juventud Guerrera's speed to 87 and lower tech to 78 Raise Kane's over to 85 and charisma to 80 Raise Keiji Mutoh's speed to 60 and charisma to 87 EDIT: Raise Kevin Nash's brawl to 59, speed to 5, tech to 6, and charisma to 91 Raise Kevin Sullivan's charisma to 78 Change Kid Krash to Kid Kash Raise Konnan's speed to 18 Lower Kurt Angle's speed to 69 and raise tech to 93 and lower charisma to 97 Raise La Parka's charisma to 81 Lower Lance Storm's speed to 81, tech to 92, and charisma to 77 Raise Low Ki's brawl to 79, speed to 86, tech to 84, stiffness to 78, charisma to 71, and change behavior to 88 - tick shooting ability, menacing, and trainer Lower Mark Jindrak's speed to 55, raise tech to 55, and raise charisma to 55 Raise Masato Tanaka's brawl to 89, speed to 50, and tech to 69 Lower Matt Hardy's tech to 76 Lower Matt Stryker's speed to 72 and raise tech to 83 Lower Matt Sydal's speed to 90 Lower Michael Shane's speed to 79 EDIT: Raise Mick Foley's speed to 6 and tech to 9 Raise Mike Awesome's speed to 47 and tech to 52 Raise Mike Quackenbush's speed to 82 and tech to 87 Lower Monty Brown's speed to 24 Raise Mr Aguila's speed to 83 Lower Nathan Jones' brawl to 45 Raise Necro Butcher's brawl to 85 Raise New Jack's brawl to 81 and speed to 20 Raise Nigel McGuinness' tech to 81 Raise Norman Smiley's tech to 69 Lower Paul Heyman's charisma to 96 Raise Paul London's speed to 92 Lower Perry Saturn's speed to 54 Lower Petey Williams' brawl to 58 and raise speed to 76 and tech to 67 Raise Planet Stasiak's speed to 11 and tech to 28 EDIT: Raise Psicosis' speed to 86 and tech to 79 Lower Randy Orton's over to 42 (he really hadn't done much in WWE yet) Raise Raven's charisma to 97, over to 77, brawl to 84, speed to 22, and tech to 40 Raise Rey Mysterio's speed to 92, selling to 98, and charisma to 80 Raise Rhyno's brawl to 80, speed to 30, and tech to 35 Raise Ric Flair's brawl to 70 and lower attitude to 77 and behavior to 70 Raise Rick Fuller's speed to 3 and tech to 5 Raise Rick Steiner's brawl to 67, speed to 14, tech to 61, lower stiffness to 87, raise selling to 66, and raise attitude to 80 and behavior to 55 - tick shooting ability Raise Road Warrior Animal's speed to 9 and tech to 17, raise selling to 55, and over to 75 Raise Road Warrior Hawk's speed to 11, tech to 19, selling to 57, and over to 75 Raise Rob Van Dam's brawl to 80 and charisma to 81 Raise Roddy Piper's stiffness to 45 and selling to 67 and raise charisma to 95 Lower Roderick Strong's speed to 70 and raise brawl to 68 and tech to 72 Tick Fonz Factor for Ron Killings EDIT: Raise Sabu's brawl to 79, tech to 48, over to 70, and charisma to 75 Raise Samoa Joe's brawl to 84, speed to 60 and tech to 79, and charisma to 73 Lower 2 Cold Scorpio's speed to 80 and tech to 75 Raise Scott Norton's speed to 15 and tech to 20 Raise Scott Steiner's brawl to 70, speed to 28, and tech to 67, selling to 58, and charisma to 84 - tick shooting Lower Sean O'Haire's speed to 60 Raise Shane Douglas' speed to 13 and over to 75 Lower Shannon Moore's tech to 69 Raise Shark Boy's stiffness to 42, tech to 70, and charisma to 72 Raise Shawn Michaels' tech to 81 and charisma to 96 Raise Sid Vicious' over to 88 Lower Simon Diamond's brawl to 73 and tech to 70 Raise Sinister Minister's charisma to 89 EDIT: Raise Spike Dudley's brawl to 74, speed to 71, and tech to 65, stiffness to 58 and selling to 100, and charisma to 72 - tick trainer Tick Diva for Stephanie McMahon Raise Steve Austin's over to 100 and tick Fonz Factor - lower attitude to 55 and behavior to 60 Raise Steve Williams' speed to 6 Raise Sting's brawl to 75, speed to 28, tech to 41, stiffness to 45, selling to 70, and charisma to 91 Raise Super Crazy's speed to 80 Raise Super Dragon's brawl to 70 and lower speed to 69, raise stiffness to 85 Raise Tajiri's brawl to 75, speed to 80, and over to 74 Raise Taka Michinoku's speed to 85 and tech to 83, and lower his selling to 87 Lower Taz's brawl to 70 and tech to 71 Raise Terry Funk's brawl to 79, speed to 18, and tech to 33... raise selling to 100 and charisma to 87 Lower The Hurricane's tech to 74 Raise The Rock's speed to 25 and tech to 40, and raise stiffness to 43 Raise The Sandman's brawl to 71, speed to 23, and tech to 34, and charisma to 87 Lower Tito Ortiz's brawl to 71 and tech to 64 Raise TJ Wilson's speed to 76 and tech to 70 Raise Tommy Dreamer's brawl to 80, speed to 27, and tech to 49, and stiffness to 62, selling to 96, and charisma to 81 Raise Triple H's tech to 74 and selling to 80, raise charisma to 94 and tick announcer and fonz factor Raise Ultimo Dragon's brawl to 50, lower speed to 83, and lower tech to 84, and raise stiffness to 72 Raise Undertaker's brawl to 85, speed to 38, and tech to 59, raise selling to 87, and over to 96 Raise Vader's brawl to 74, speed to 25, and tech to 47 Raise Val Venis' speed to 25 Raise Vampiro's brawl to 74 and tech to 62, raise charisma to 71 Raise William Regal's brawl to 82, speed to 22, tech to 90, lower stiffness to 81, raise selling to 83, raise charisma to 91, and tick shooting I would remove Vince Russo from workers and put him in strictly as a writer

You can remove the alter egos under Shogun. They were for Shinya Hashimoto, who died in 2005.

Since when has AJ's Springboard 450° been called Superman? I watch Impact every week and all the PPV's and I have for years and I haven't heard that. The only thing close I can even think of is the Superman Punch he does. It was called that in EWR, so I was using the name. I don't care if it's called Superman, Springboard 450, whatever.... but it should be top rope, not ground.

I would put Wes Brisco's over at 58 and Taryn Terrell's over at 55. I think both deserve a modest boost of a few points. Crimson and Gunner haven't been on TNA for ages, have they? I would lower their over to 60 each. I'd also lower Douglas Williams to 71 in over. Bully Ray should be around 87 in over right now. He's probably the top heel in the company. I'd also boost Zema Ion's over to 65. Christian York currently has higher over at 64, even though Ion had a big run as X-Division Champion and has competed against the likes of Austin Aries and seems to be the #2 in the division behind Kenny King at the moment. Shouldn't AJ Styles' secondary finisher, Superman, be a Top Rope move? I get he springs off the rope, but it's the TOP rope, not like Jericho's Lionsault which is the middle rope... Plus Chris Daniels' BME, which is a similar type move (him jumping off the top rope to execute the maneuver) is Top Rope.

SILENCE! Sandow should be around 88 and Rhodes around 85 IMO.

- Need finishers for American Kickboxer. - Jumping Roundhouse Kick (Impact) for both - Need finishers for Bay Ragni. - Sloppy Splash (top rope) and Splash (ground) ...fyi he may have been Chubby Dudley at this point - Need finishers for Buck Quartermain. - Swinging DDT (Impact) and Buck Q Triple Elbow (Ground) - Need finishers for Chance Beckett. Chance Encounter (Impact) and Phat Chance (submission) - Need finishers for Chris Youngblood. Slingshot Splash (ground) and Crossbody Chop (Impact) - Need finishers for Danny Dominion. Dominion's Deliverance (Impact) and Powerbomb to Facebuster (Impact) - Need finishers for Doc Dean. Dragon Suplex (Impact) and German Suplex (Impact) - Need finishers for Don Montoya. Montoya Death Driver (Impact) and T-Bone Suplex (Impact)

Sin Cara shouldn't be lowered to 88. He should still be in the low 90s. I definitely wouldn't put AJ Styles higher than him... in fact, AJ should be around 88.

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I was kinda hoping I'd hear back on the sponsors stuff before the next release but I don't know if Disturbed has made it over to the new forum okay or had time to work on them. I'm still plugging away but as usual it's slower than I'd like...

This could just be my opinion, but a lot of the stats seem.. well... low. Maybe not the primary stats necessarily, but the secondary stats seem far below what I would consider appropriate. Take for example Cactus Jack and Undertaker. You gave Jack a 90 for brawl, which is really good and appropriate. But you gave him a 9 for speed and 9 for tech. Foley was still doing a lot of sick bumps and off the apron moves and such. He was fairly quick and underrated as a technician in this period. His matches in '96 through '99 were solid, some of the best of his career. Likewise, Undertaker only has 77 for brawl (I feel like he deserves a 10 point boost) and only 10 in speed, 12 in tech. This is a man who walked the ropes, dove over them, did a lot of quick stuff, even for his size. As for technique, I don't remember him botching moves hardly ever and he was great at story-telling. I look at someone like Benoit, who has 88 in tech which is about right but only has 30 in speed... or someone like Rey Misterio Jr. who only has 10 in brawl... or RVD having 41 in tech... Roddy Piper having 5 in speed... Steve Austin (as The Ringmaster) having 10 in speed. It's consistent, across the board for sure, and it will make the game more challenging. That said, it feels like a lot of the stats could be higher. Maybe this was by design, though, since it seems like it's in all the stats. EDIT: Some of the over values are messed up if you ask me. Bret Hart being 100 and Hulk Hogan being 96... I get that Hogan was getting boos as his babyface run was going stale around this time, but shit, Bret was getting mixed responses too. With the rise of HBK, he wasn't exactly endeared by the whole crowd, which led to his own heel turn. Plus nobody was more recognizable than Hogan until Austin was in the height of his glory... I don't think anyone should be higher in over, or even on that level. I mean, Savage is higher, Flair is higher... Sting, Taker, HBK... Do you really think all these people were more well-known, more popular than Hogan in America? Hogan was a household name. Sting hadn't reached his peak in terms of popularity yet as the nWo won't be formed for another 6 months and he won't go crow for almost another year. EDIT2: There's a big gap in speed as well. Juvi and Rey are the only ones above 80 and they're at 90 and 91 respectively. Why put them 10+ points above everyone else in speed? They were phenomenal, but what about guys like Liger, Ultimo Dragon, Psychosis, etc.? They were pretty good as well and deserve speed in the 80s at least. EDIT3: Just realized you don't have Ultimo Dragon. I hope you plan on adding him, even though he's Japanese... he had worked in Mexico and the US by this point.

Load and ReLoad aren't Metallica's best albums but they aren't the pieces of shit most Metallica fans claim they are. I can enjoy them for sure, and they have a few good singles . Most are from ReLoad, but Fuel, The Unforgiven II, Devil's Dance, King Nothing, Attitude, Better Than You, the Memory Remains, and Ain't My Bitch are all solid songs. Metallica's best albums are the Black Album, Ride The Lightning, and Master of Puppets, IMO. EDIT: That said, I think St. Anger is the least-appreciated album of Metallica's, and it was pretty bad... but I still listened to it lol. But yeah, I would say going along with metal, Megadeth had several unappreciated albums. Risk, Cryptic Writings, The World Needs a Hero, The System Has Failed... basically anything from '97 to '04 seems to get ignored, but there was a LOT of good stuff in there. Trust, Prince of Darkness, Crush 'Em, The Doctor Is Calling, The World Needs a Hero, Return to Hangar, The Scorpion, Kick The Chair, Of Mice and Men, Die Dead Enough.... a lot of great songs in that 7 year span.

I have a crappy paint-made signature with some of the bands I'm listening to and some of my favorite bands of the past... Been listening to In This Moment's "Blood", Thousand Foot Krutch's "The End Is Where We Begin,", and both of Evan's Blue most recent albums, their self-titled and "Graveyard of Empires", as well as still listening to Shinedown, Tool, Lacuna Coil, and others occasionally.

If he isn't in the game yet you'll need to suggest stats. Eh, they were arguing over tattoos and stuff. Brooke's comments got a little heated, but I doubt that it would affect which promotions they work for.

Over: 93 Brawl: 84 Speed: 60 Tech: 94 Stiff: 80 Selling: 100 (or close IMO) Charisma: 71 Tick high spots and trainer. He should be main event or upper card depending on the time frame. His gimmick could be a variety, either no gimmick needed or legitimate athlete or ice man or machine might work. NGN is probably the most fitting for any time period. I'll leave attitude and behavior up to you since uh... y'know.

I don't think WCW's public image would need dropped by April. If anything boost it 5 points. WWF's should be around the same as WCW's, as they were pretty even right around Mania before WWF slowly started to take back the ratings. WrestleMania was a huge success in terms of buy rate, but WCW was still very, very popular. A few guys would need overness boosts. DDP, Goldberg, The Rock, maybe Raven and Jericho, possibly guys like Guerrero, Benoit, Kane, Austin, etc. HBK would probably be a non-wrestler by then, too.