VerbalPuke

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Marcus Camby has been sent to the Clippers in exchange for a second round pick according to espn.com. I have to give credit to the Clippers for getting something decent in Brand's absence. He may be an older player, but he is a good rebounder and a great defender. It still probably wont do much in getting the Clippers to the playoffs, but it's definitely a solid move on their part.

Same here. Initially I'm shocked, but then I see that his truck is not only fucking huge, but has his likeness on it? Seriously, it's hard enough to evade the police, but with you're fucking likeness on a god damned monster truck? I'm bummed though, Jackson is a great fighter, and a re-match with Forrest would have been excellent.

The Pogues man, you have to have the Pogues. You probably know them already though. The Mahones and the Tossers are also good, the Mahones being more like the Dropkick Murphy's and the Mahones being more like Flogging Molly (more so in the way you described the other two). Alright, so it's my turn... I like quite a bit of punk, you guys have seen it through my signatures and avatars. It's hard for to find a starting place, but I like going with 77 style as a starter. The Dead Boys, Ramones, The Zeros, Johnny Thunders and the Heartbreakers, and the Saints, Slaughter and the Dogs, the Sex Pistols, and the Damned are good options here. As for hardcore, it was a bit different in North America than what you'd find in the UK or Sweden for example. The UK and Swedish sounds followed more of a "D-Beat" style which can be credited to the sound you'd hear from a band like Discharge or GBH. Good examples of North American (and really, I should just say American, but there were too many great bands from Canada to forget about) hardcore would be Negative Approach, Wasted Youth, Personality Crisis, Battalion of Saints, Government Issue, Youth Brigade (from D.C., not L.A.), D.O.A., Subhumans (from Canada, not the UK), Crucifix, and Toxic Reasons. Of course, I do like a lot of the stuff the UK and Sweden did. They had great bands that deserve mention in any discussion such as G.B.H., English Dogs (who are somewhat metal in their approach, but are definitely punk), Riistetyt, Black Uniforms, Puke, Broken Bones, and Anti-Cimex. At one time in my life I was not much of crust punk fan, but recently I've realized I've always liked crust punk. I realized that I was associating crust punk with the shitty, insipid Casualties street punk crap. Crust punk is vile, dirty, disgusting, and menacing in it's approach. The best of the bunch are Amebix, Order of the Vulture, Battle of Disarm, Electro Hippies, and Ale Hammer. One of my favorite areas for punk is in California, be it L.A., San Francisco, or Oxnard Valley. I find that California had the best variety of different punk bands, and it seemed that there was simply more creativity out here than the other power house cities of punk. You had the Screamers, Dead Kennedys, Black Randy and the Metrosquad, Geza-X and the Mommymen and the Offs from San Francisco. L.A. housed The Adolescents (Members of D.I. before D.I. was around), The Germs, The Bags, X, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, Fear, and the Minutemen. L.A. didn't fuck around. And of course, I should make mention of Oi. Oi had it's largest following in England, though the French can stake a large claim to having a great collection of Oi bands. It was typically associated with being working class, street tough, and in many cases with skinheads. Oi didn't need to be fast or heavy to get it's point across, it is still as tough a sound in punk as you'll ever hear. The best from the U.K. included Last Resort, Angelic Upstarts, Sham 69, Cockney Rejects, Blitz, and 4-Skins. As for France, my favorites are Camera Silens, Warrior Kids, and Tolbiacs Toads. Since this is my post, I'm going to rattle off a few bands from my great home state of Michigan. We had something good going in the 70s and 80s, it's too bad things have dwindled down over the years. So then...Angry Red Planet, State, The Allied, The Meatmen, Born Without a Face, The Fix, and Fate Unknown were all local mainstays during the 80s. In fact, I know a couple of old time rockers that played shows or had seen a few of those bands during their heydays. Now, I'll try to tie up some loose ends here because I know a lot of great bands were not mentioned. Actually, I'll still forget hundreds more, but I'll feel better knowing that I mentioned Dezerter (great band from Poland, the best of the Polish punk acts), Big Boys (Texas hardcore funk punk, as awesome as they were homosexual), Flesh Eaters (Another Cali band, eerie, spooky, and incredible), Bad Brains (D.C. hardcore, one of the best ever), Buzzcocks (UK pop punk, any teenage lover can relate to their music), The Plugz (Chicano's from L.A., twangy guitar sound, do a nice cover of La Bamba), Anti Nowhere League (Pretty straight forward UK punk, a bit lewd, and an excellent show to see live even in their advanced age), and fuck it, how about Billy Childish and the Pop Rivets (it's Billy Childish's punk band before he branched out into his 800 other bands). That's a pretty good start I'd say.

Most of you already know where I stand, it's been pretty well illustrated in my time on EWB. I just got back from a camping trip, so I'm pretty tired, therefore I'll throw some suggestions up later.

I always liked the song about him and his black metal friends.

Despite being down 2-0, the Lakers are actually not in such awful shape. The next three are in L.A., and given Bostons playoff road woes, it's conceivable that the Lakers win the next three. If that were to happen, I could easily see them taking one in Boston. Still, Boston may have solved their problems on the road against Detroit.

Wow, I just forgot a huge one that I omitted from my initial list. The Pogues. I checked them out a few years back, and they really didn't capture my imagination. I probably had heard one of the more sentimental songs, as opposed to something that was fun and upbeat. Well, a few years ago, I checked them out again and fell in love with the bands music. I now appreciate the slower, sentimental stuff, but my fascination with their music is definitely a culmination of my appreciation of stuff like Bottle of Smoke, Streams of Whiskey, and Wildcats of Kilkenny. The Pogues have grown to be one of my favorite groups of all-time, up there with any hardcore punk, metal, anything I can think of. Honestly, they're one of few bands that have songs that can genuinely change my disposition from somber to happy.

Honestly, I think that I'd love to see Kimbo Slice vs. Butterbean. Is there any chance that it could happen? It seems like a natural fight, two guys that like to punch people in the face, it'd be great for the freakshow aspect anyway.

You can't give up a ten point lead in the 4th quarter. Plus, Sheed and Prince really aren't clutch in these pressure situations, Sheed's fucking overrated. "He has the ability to be a dominant PF", I call bullshit. But, the better team won, so no harm there. I'm more interested to see what moves Joe has in store this summer, they can't take this same core into next season without some kind of a shake up. I'd expect that Flip could be the first to go, followed by a starter or two via trade. Oh, and so much for any wager with DMN. That's an even bigger bummer, I'd prefer L.A. over Boston myself.

I think Sabbath did something a bit different, they weren't as much of a straight laced rock act like Blue Cheer and Cream. They explored realms in music (in regard to lyrics, sound, and content) that hadn't really been touched on in rock and roll. Their ominous sound only helped to accentuate their ghoulish lyrics. Blue Cheer and Cream were heavy for their time, but Black Sabbath was heavier, scarier, and much more interesting. And wow, Sex Pistols in the top five? I can dig that, I don't know if I'd personally rank them ahead of other bands instrumental in the influence of punk, but they certainly deserve their share of the credit.

Well you are a fan of a team that has Anderson Varejo, so I can see how you'd think that. And Christ, the Lakers are back. The fucked up thing is that they'll only be getting better in the off-season with Bynum's return.

The league admits that Barry was fouled. Taken from espn.com Bummer. Bigger bummer, Pistons lose again. One more and that's it, they have to win two in a row against Boston. I hate Boston.

It's nothing personal with the Velvets, they deserve their place on the list, I just don't see them above Black Sabbath. A lot of the Velvet's stuff I've heard sounded more like a continuation of psychedelic and garage, where as I saw Black Sabbath as completely reinventing the wheel musically speaking. Like you said about the Smiths, they are your Beatles. The same can be said for Black Sabbath and myself. Edit - And from an American perspective, R.E.M. is extremely fruity garbage. I can't understand how a song like "Shiny Happy People" can constitute a hit. They are just silly.

This is good stuff, it gives folks insight into the mind behind the mayhem. Plus it's probably some of the best footage of G.G. that you'll ever be able to find. Oh yeah, and referring back to that Cramps DVD Skummy, it is great. I especially love the Target Bonus footage, which is also featured (but with even more footage) on the Screamers DVD.

Black Sabbath > Velvet Underground by a wide margin. But fucking yeah, Chuck Berry and Black Sabbath? Man, this is the best list of music EWB has ever put together. I think some people forget that Black Sabbath's influence goes beyond just being a metal pioneer. Their sound was fucking ground breaking for the time, cases can be made for bands like Iron Butterfly or Blue Cheer, but Sabbath was heavy, loud, macabre, and Ozzy's voice was absolutely haunting. Not too mention that the other three (Geezer, Tony, and Bill) were great musicians in their own right. Black Sabbath did for metal what the Stooges did for punk, they set a groundbreaking tone that perfectly laid the foundation for bands of their ilk to follow up with. They are the epitome of a band being ahead of it's time, and thank god they were around when they were because a lot of music in their era was insipid bullshit. If you guys don't believe me, watch this. War Pigs This is the absolute best version of War Pigs I've ever heard. This is what I mean when I say they were re-defining rock and roll and the way it should sound.

The Cramps Live at the Napa Valley Mental Institution. The Screamers Live at the Mabuhay Gardens. Dead Kennedys, I forgot the name, but it's got assorted performances. A Flipside DVD with The Circle Jerks, Dickies, Weirdos, and Bad Religion. The Essential Clash And on VHS, The Decline of Western Civilization. I wish they'd release this on fucking DVD. I was on a kick for these sort of DVD's, but don't watch them much these days. I toss them on here and there though, but it's not always on my mind to sit back and watch a concert on my t.v.

I don't blame you, I'm hoping to avenge our loss from '05 against the Spurs. As for the bet thing I threw down, I had maybe a few beers, maybe more than a few even, so I was talking out of my ass. I'm still down, I just had/have no clue what exactly I had in mind for a wager. You might yet get Boston if the Pistons continue to show up whenever they feel like it.

I'll never cease to be impressed by YI's output in this music forum. Kudos, they ought to make you a mod for this forum. I just wanted to say that I am fucking stoked/erect at the thought of seeing Motorhead in August. Judas Priest will also be there, and some other bands. But fucking Motorhead? I'd pay 100 dollars to see them. I am fucking excited.

Agreeing with Skummy yet again. For those wondering which song of Link Wray's that was banned, it was Rumble. It's featured in the movie Pulp Fiction, yet for some reason I don't think it's on the actual soundtrack. I think one of my favorite covers is his cover of Buddy Holly's "That'll Be The Day", he doesn't even put vocals on it but makes it a fucking great cover regardless. There would be no Who without Link Wray, Pete Townshend credits Link Wray as the reason he decided to pick up a guitar. And yeah, I better fucking see Motorhead on this list.

Link Wray made a music list on EWB? There is hope for you guys yet! But man, Link Wray. Fantastic guitar player in his own right, I'm sure most folks are well aware of him as being one of the original players of the power chord. Seriously, find his three disc compilation that spans most of his career, the "Big City After Dark" album is especially good. When I think of music that was ahead of it's time, he's right at the start of those thoughts.

The Lakers are absolutely impressive. Kobe is just disgustingly good, and I'd have never guessed that they would smoke the Spurs in the way that they did. Good points made about the match up problems the Spurs would have by the way, DMN. I just hope the Pistons can take care of the Celtics. I'd love to see another Pistons/Lakers match up. It'd be fun if we could have an EWB gentleman bet on that series should it take place. What do you say DMN?

I think it was through my buddies that I heard this through, but Zappa was looking to run for political office through the Libertarian party. If you're interested, there are some good videos of him on youtube schooling people on CNN's "Crossfire" in the late 1980s. I've never voted, and probably never will, but if Zappa were alive, he'd most definitely get my vote. Edit - And one more fun story about Frank Zappa. Alice Cooper's first two albums were produce by Frank Zappa. The Alice Cooper band were told by Zappa to "Come to LA at 8 O'Clock for an audition". Alice Cooper and his band show up at Zappa's front door at 8 A.M., when Zappa had meant 8 p.m. Zappa was so impressed by their gumption and dedication to make music, that he signed them up on the spot. As a fun side note, Alice Cooper's face paint on stage was borrowed from Arthur Brown. Alice asked Arthur Brown if he could borrow the style and Arthur said yes, which is funny because Arthur Brown's "Crazy World of Arthur Brown" album sort of reminded me of a macabre version of Frank Zappa.

Wow, that was an awesome diatribe about Frank Zappa. Another thing to keep in mind with Zappa, he was attacking the insipid hippie music of his generation, and openly mocked the fucking Beatles with his album cover "We're Only In It For the Money". I'm thankful that I have a friend or two that are huge Zappa fans. As I've said before about Zappa, he's not just a rock and roll musician, he's a brilliant vocalist, a lyrical mastermind, and an extraordinary composer. His work transcends rock and was always ahead of it's time or completely deviating from the norm of the current era of rock (be it the 60s, 70s, or 80s). Just as a stupid side note, my friend that is a huge Zappa fan has told me that his parents saw Zappa live in the 80s. They say that it was the most incredible live musical experience they have ever seen. And one more stupid side note, Zappa was alongside Dee Snyder and Jello Biafra in the war against the PRMC (I think that's right? The group against Tipper Gore), fighting against the censorship of music.

Fuck yeah Cloudy. Hendrix is fucking awesome, and I don't think people understand just how fucking influential he was. Some folks may think of him as hippie rock, but the man was playing some heavy shit for his day. I love Jimi Hendrix. I'm glad to see Sister Rosetta Thorpe make the list by the way. Kudos to Skummy and GoGo for voting for her, I know I didn't. You guys should look into Big Joe Turner if you love her as much as you do. R.E.M. fucking sucks by the way. They are completely fucking gay.