2011 NFL Offseason Thread

[gunnar hendershow]

Thank god I didn't pick him in fantasy yet.

[naiwf]

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/31446082

I hope that's not accurate for Arizona's sake. $50 million guaranteed for a WR is ridiculous, regardless of how good he is.

[Mysterio2000X]

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/31446082

I hope that's not accurate for Arizona's sake. $50 million guaranteed for a WR is ridiculous, regardless of how good he is.

That's right on par with what Andre Johnson got last year, and over 8 years comes to $6.25 million guaranteed/per year. That's fine for a player of his caliber. I'm guessing the rest is heavily tied into incentives and the like, and the actual figure that will be paid out will end up being way, way smaller than the $120 million being reported (like how Haynesworth's deal wasn't really worth $100 million). It's just a nice figure for the agent to champion to the media.

Still, hell of a chunk of change for Fitz.

Edited August 21, 2011 by Mysterio2000X

[naiwf]

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/31446082

I hope that's not accurate for Arizona's sake. $50 million guaranteed for a WR is ridiculous, regardless of how good he is.

That's right on par with what Andre Johnson got last year, and over 8 years comes to $6.25 million guaranteed/per year. That's fine for a player of his caliber. I'm guessing the rest is heavily tied into incentives and the like, and the actual figure that will be paid out will end up being way, way smaller than the $120 million being reported (like how Haynesworth's deal wasn't really worth $100 million). It's just a nice figure for the agent to champion to the media.

Still, hell of a chunk of change for Fitz.

The guy will be 28 in 10 days, so they're paying all that money for about 4 or 5 more seasons of prime production. I hate when people just look at the guaranteed amount and prorate it over the life of the contract as though he's working for free the rest of the time. There's still another $70 million in base pay and incentives to account for, and even if he "only" gets half of that he's still pulling in more than $10 million per year. My gut says that no WR is worth that much of your salary cap, especially when you don't have a proven QB on the roster. He's one of my favorite players in the league, but that contract is awful.

[gunnar hendershow]

Did they have a choice though? Players will come to AZ to play alongside him knowing his presence gives them a good chance to be a part of something, and Kolb has been great in camp so if he turns out well then this deal looks a lot less damaging to their longterm prospects.

[Mysterio2000X]

The guy will be 28 in 10 days, so they're paying all that money for about 4 or 5 more seasons of prime production. I hate when people just look at the guaranteed amount and prorate it over the life of the contract as though he's working for free the rest of the time. There's still another $70 million in base pay and incentives to account for, and even if he "only" gets half of that he's still pulling in more than $10 million per year. My gut says that no WR is worth that much of your salary cap, especially when you don't have a proven QB on the roster. He's one of my favorite players in the league, but that contract is awful.

And the majority of the serious cash will be paid over the next 4 years, according to Schefter. I imagine a huge chunk of that deal is coming in the form of a signing bonus, which will also go into lessening the cap impact considerably. If that's the case, then it's a gaudy number for his agent and other players to use in future negotiations, but certainly manageable from a franchise perspective. Not to mention that the majority of the incentives, from what I've heard, are tied into Fitzgerald making the All-Pro squad and winning a Lombardi or two, and if that's the case, it's safe to say he was worth the cash.

I get where you're coming from, but wait for more contract details to come out before calling it an albatross.

Edited August 21, 2011 by Mysterio2000X

[sahyder1]

Like damshow said, what choice did they really have? They couldn't franchise him so it was either pay him or let him walk at the end of the year.

[David Hassellhoff]

The guy's clearly the best player they've had (in a player's prime mind you) in their franchise's history so why not make the man a little richer?

[JStarr]

Just when we thought the NFL could finally be a Favre-free zone: Link

All that said, Favre > Curtis "Wait, How Do You Throw This Thing?" Painter or Dan "Eeeek! Let Me Take a Safety So the Bad Men Will Stop Chasing Me!" Orlovsky. And this is coming from a Colts fan who's tremendously sick of Favre.

[gunnar hendershow]

Ah, just what we needed.

[sahyder1]

Somewhere Irsay is sitting and laughing about all the attention this is getting on ESPN and other places.

[Mysterio2000X]

Somewhere Irsay is sitting and laughing about all the attention this is getting on ESPN and other places.

Yeah, he's pretty obviously trolling.

On a related note, Irsay's awesome.

[EddieG]

Pryor selected by the Raiders in the 3rd round.

[Meacon Keaton]

Seems fitting. JaMarcus Russel 2.0

[sahyder1]

From McShay on twitter.

Raiders are putting together a gold medal Olympic relay team. That's the goal, right?

Edited August 22, 2011 by sahyder1

[Damian WayLNKe]

Raiders will now be missing their 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks in the 2012 draft.

[sahyder1]

How much longer will Tebow be a Bronco?

Broncos have named Orton starter and ESPN is saying Tebow is #3 on depth chart behind Brady Quinn.

[Meacon Keaton]

And rightfully so. Quinn's outplayed Tebow all camp and preseason. I love Tebow, and I'm not sure they're ready to give up on him quite yet.

[TCO]

I'd gladly take Tebow at the Giants and I'm sure most other fans and organisations alike would love the guy in their team. It's really unfortunate for him that the lockout happened this year because it stopped him from being in the facillity looking at film etc, something I'm sure he would've been at the whole off season.

I still maintain he'll succeed in the league, Broncos or not, he's too talented and hardworking not to. Now watch him go to Philly like everyone else and have me instantly hate him, though he would be the perfect back-up for Vick because he's probably the closest thing to him right now.

[Meacon Keaton]

I really don't think he's leaving. With Orton more or less asking to be traded earlier, I'm thinking he may leave after this year. That gives Tim another year to work on his mechanics and learning the new system to challenge Quinn for the starting job next year.