I Declare War

[Typical Phenom]

Definately not mad at the concert, looked to be a hot show and there's another one coming up in Philly. Diddy performing with The Lox is crazy to me. I'm glad he's trying to unify the east coast, should make for some good music and hopefully a Jay-Z/Nas collabo.

[Benji]

Wait, when did Jay-Z stop being retired?

Wasn't it just from producing new material? I don't know, rappers seem to retire from some form of hip hop every day, it's like pro wrestling retirement only instead of faces and heels it's pretty much all a bunch of people whose ancestors fought for the right to be treated with the same respect as everyone else, only they argue over the tiniest of bullshit with one another instead of unifying and setting a decent example.

[MalaCloudy Black]

Wait, when did Jay-Z stop being retired?

Wasn't it just from producing new material? I don't know, rappers seem to retire from some form of hip hop every day, it's like pro wrestling retirement only instead of faces and heels it's pretty much all a bunch of people whose ancestors fought for the right to be treated with the same respect as everyone else, only they argue over the tiniest of bullshit with one another instead of unifying and setting a decent example.

..Except they just did ¬¬

[Benji]

Wait, when did Jay-Z stop being retired?

Wasn't it just from producing new material? I don't know, rappers seem to retire from some form of hip hop every day, it's like pro wrestling retirement only instead of faces and heels it's pretty much all a bunch of people whose ancestors fought for the right to be treated with the same respect as everyone else, only they argue over the tiniest of bullshit with one another instead of unifying and setting a decent example.

..Except they just did ¬¬

Fifty and the Game split and got back together like five times in one month.

[DMN in the House]

Honestly, people care about East Coast rap? That shit sucks.

Hell, even the West Coast sucks (although I do like some of Game's shit, its not even close to the level of older stuff).

The rap game is, and has been, weak for a very long time now (97-98, minus a few people).

[MalaCloudy Black]

Wait, when did Jay-Z stop being retired?

Wasn't it just from producing new material? I don't know, rappers seem to retire from some form of hip hop every day, it's like pro wrestling retirement only instead of faces and heels it's pretty much all a bunch of people whose ancestors fought for the right to be treated with the same respect as everyone else, only they argue over the tiniest of bullshit with one another instead of unifying and setting a decent example.

..Except they just did ¬¬

Fifty and the Game split and got back together like five times in one month.

And they're an accurate representation of rap as a whole.

Oh, they aren't. Did you read the report up there? P. Diddy and The LOX squashed their beef, Nas & Jay-Z did, they're trying to set an example for the hip-hop community.

[Benji]

Fifty and the Game split and got back together like five times in one month.

And they're an accurate representation of rap as a whole.

Oh, they aren't. Did you read the report up there? P. Diddy and The LOX squashed their beef, Nas & Jay-Z did, they're trying to set an example for the hip-hop community.

Quit taking me so seriously.

[MalaCloudy Black]

Fifty and the Game split and got back together like five times in one month.

And they're an accurate representation of rap as a whole.

Oh, they aren't. Did you read the report up there? P. Diddy and The LOX squashed their beef, Nas & Jay-Z did, they're trying to set an example for the hip-hop community.

Quit taking me so seriously.

Oh, yeah, it's Benji.

:lmao:

[Lord Nibbler]

Honestly, people care about East Coast rap? That shit sucks.

[Lowerdeck]

Wow, this is much different than I expected it to be. I was thinking a possible beef between Jay and his crew against Dipset for some reason, although that's probably retarded thinking on my part. Or a beef between Jay and someone at minimum. I never thought it was a war against beef, that's out of left field.

But yeah, 50 needs to cut the shit. First, he needs to stop hatin on everyone or else he's gonna get shot. Secondly, he needs to put out material that isn't for 17 year old girls.

[ravenjuice]

Rappers make me laugh...i thought all that stuff was just people stereotyping and taking the piss out of them...obviously not.

Anyone wanting to hurt 50 is my friend.

[DMN in the House]

Honestly, people care about East Coast rap? That shit sucks.

East Coast Rap is, was and always will be better than West Coast rap.

Who from the West can fuck with Rakim, Big L, Pun, KRS-One, Kool G Rap, Biggie, Nas, Jay, Slick Rick, Kane, A Tribe Called Quest, Kweli, The Wu, Run DMC, Public Enemy, Mobb Deep and Mos Def?

Quality, not quantity, my friend. Nevermind the fact that the East Coast gave us Puff Daddy, which has to amount to some kind of negative points.

Anyway, NWA (collectively and individually), Snoop Dogg, Tupac, Ice T, Cypress Hill, Warren G, DJ Quik, Mack 10, Lynch Mob, and others.

Its two totally different styles. Oh, and I actually like OLDER New York rap, but after gangsta rap (or, as I would put it, West Coast shit), took over, besides Biggie, the East has been shit.

[fineintent]

East has > West for a good number of years. So what it produced Diddy? The West has produced a name dropper like Game, who is distinctly average and only where he is because others' (Dre, K.West, Just Blaze's) production.

Who from the West can fuck with Rakim, Big L, Pun, KRS-One, Kool G Rap, Biggie, Nas, Jay, Slick Rick, Kane, A Tribe Called Quest, Kweli, The Wu, Run DMC, Public Enemy, Mobb Deep and Mos Def?

Edited October 28, 2005 by fineintent

[Lord Nibbler]

Forgot about Common...and Pharoahe Monch, and Canibus.

Wow, this is much different than I expected it to be. I was thinking a possible beef between Jay and his crew against Dipset for some reason, although that's probably retarded thinking on my part. Or a beef between Jay and someone at minimum. I never thought it was a war against beef, that's out of left field.

But yeah, 50 needs to cut the shit. First, he needs to stop hatin on everyone or else he's gonna get shot. Secondly, he needs to put out material that isn't for 17 year old girls.

Edited October 28, 2005 by Jimmy the Exploder

[Lowerdeck]

1. I wouldn't call Kanye being East Coast. He's Midwest, which is a bit different. He hangs around with a lot of East Coast people though. Same with Common and anyone from Chicago.

2. Anyone would destroy Dipset in battle. I was hoping Jay would. They are so horrible lately, they need to get someone to kill them so they get back into the game.

[MalaCloudy Black]

Forgot about Common...and Pharoahe Monch, and Canibus.

Wow, this is much different than I expected it to be. I was thinking a possible beef between Jay and his crew against Dipset for some reason, although that's probably retarded thinking on my part. Or a beef between Jay and someone at minimum. I never thought it was a war against beef, that's out of left field.

But yeah, 50 needs to cut the shit. First, he needs to stop hatin on everyone or else he's gonna get shot. Secondly, he needs to put out material that isn't for 17 year old girls.

It was rumoured that he'd go at Dipset. I would have been loving it.

Quality, not quantity, my friend.

All those artists are quality.

Anyway, NWA (collectively and individually), Snoop Dogg, Tupac, Ice T, Cypress Hill, Warren G, DJ Quik, Mack 10, Lynch Mob, and others.

Its two totally different styles. Oh, and I actually like OLDER New York rap, but after gangsta rap (or, as I would put it, West Coast shit), took over, besides Biggie, the East has been shit.

Nobody you listed holds a candle to Rakim. Gangsta Rap become popular purely because of controversy, whereas East Coast rap was founded in the beats and the rhymes. You know, the music. Every rapper on my list is lyrically superior to every rapper on your list.

Plus the East Coast can boast the best producers of all time; Pete Rock, Premo, Hi-Tek, RZA, Neptunes, Kanye, Swizz Beatz, Just Blaze, Alchemist, Prince Paul. All the West has is Dre.

And to add to that.. Snoop Dogg? Are you fucking kidding me? He's all hooks, his rhymes blow ass. Ice-T? I'll give you that. Tupac? Give you that. Lynch Mob? Didn't they have like.. one album? two? NWA? Are you trying to say Eazy is better than Nas or Jigga? I don't think so. Guys like Eazy & Dre are all "gangsta this, gangsta that, bitches 'n hoes". I'll admit, I like Eazy, but as far as quality's concerned, east coast shits over the west.

[ACCBiggz]

I tend not to bother with East/West junk... it is f'n music.

[Asuka's Gonna Kill You]

Add Eminem to Syco's list, I do believe he comes under West Coast.

[MalaCloudy Black]

Add Eminem to Syco's list, I do believe he comes under West Coast.

He's from detroit, michigan. That's hardly west coast.

[Asuka's Gonna Kill You]

Add Eminem to Syco's list, I do believe he comes under West Coast.

He's from detroit, michigan. That's hardly west coast.