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On 31/10/2019 at 13:55, Ruki said:

There are some mean fucking creatures on Monarch....

You’re telling me. I decided to land at the Cascadia Landing Pad and take the long way to Stellar Bay. How bad could it possibly be?

Answer: Very very bad I don’t recommend.

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Are there any good guns to take them out? I'm a sniper, and carry a bunch of other stuff, and nothing seems to do good damage.

Flamethrower maybe?

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I finished the game tonight.

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The ending of the game (well, my ending at least) was quite worth it. I really enjoyed the epilogue and all the results of the decisions that I made. The game dragged a bit in the middle - so I'll admit rushing through the last 3/4 or so of the game.

 

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So I started the game, got done with the first town. Fallout and Borderlands were the obvious comparisons, the Mass Effect qualities I wasn't really aware of with the companions and abilities. There's something amusing about Parvati doing her hammer strike thing and then the both of us setting about the victim's prone body with her hammer and my electric beating stick. Been getting a bit of a Bioshock vibe as well, probably because I have been favouring melee and it's reminding me of smacking people with a wrench. Obviously you've got the vending machines too and maybe a bit of the aesthetics as well like bits of the UI.

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It seemed a little too heavy handed and 'down with capitalism'. I think I was going to side with Tobson at first, partly because I felt like I was being railroaded against them and down to RP self interest. If you're fresh off the boat, so to speak, maybe best not to ruffle the feathers of this big corporation that's running everything?

But just how beholden everyone is to this company just doesn't sit right. Literally being worked to death, having to rent their own graves...which ties into the deserters as well. There were dialogue options to be really horrified that they were using corpses as compost but I don't think the other options are much better. Silas was talking about how marauders were coming and digging up graves and, maybe I've misinterpreted this, but if you're just renting your grave then what's to say they wont just turf you out anywhere in order to sell the plot to someone else?

That and they seemed to sabotage the geothermal plant for some reason leading to the robots killing everyone. I guess it's possible that Higgins did it because there were data logs about him messing about with the robots but the other logs pointed to the company doing it.

I do like the underlying weird vibes that come up whenever you mention the Hope. It'd be one thing if people just didn't remember or shrugged it off as an old legend that's decades old but it comes across like they're trying too hard to not know what you're talking about or will outright tell you not to ask too many questions. Giving off the impression of some underlying conspiracy going on or maybe they're just that scared of the company that they don't want people sniffing around by association when you start asking all these questions.

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2 hours ago, King Ellis said:

So I started the game, got done with the first town. Fallout and Borderlands were the obvious comparisons, the Mass Effect qualities I wasn't really aware of with the companions and abilities. There's something amusing about Parvati doing her hammer strike thing and then the both of us setting about the victim's prone body with her hammer and my electric beating stick. Been getting a bit of a Bioshock vibe as well, probably because I have been favouring melee and it's reminding me of smacking people with a wrench. Obviously you've got the vending machines too and maybe a bit of the aesthetics as well like bits of the UI.

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It seemed a little too heavy handed and 'down with capitalism'. I think I was going to side with Tobson at first, partly because I felt like I was being railroaded against them and down to RP self interest. If you're fresh off the boat, so to speak, maybe best not to ruffle the feathers of this big corporation that's running everything?

But just how beholden everyone is to this company just doesn't sit right. Literally being worked to death, having to rent their own graves...which ties into the deserters as well. There were dialogue options to be really horrified that they were using corpses as compost but I don't think the other options are much better. Silas was talking about how marauders were coming and digging up graves and, maybe I've misinterpreted this, but if you're just renting your grave then what's to say they wont just turf you out anywhere in order to sell the plot to someone else?

That and they seemed to sabotage the geothermal plant for some reason leading to the robots killing everyone. I guess it's possible that Higgins did it because there were data logs about him messing about with the robots but the other logs pointed to the company doing it.

I do like the underlying weird vibes that come up whenever you mention the Hope. It'd be one thing if people just didn't remember or shrugged it off as an old legend that's decades old but it comes across like they're trying too hard to not know what you're talking about or will outright tell you not to ask too many questions. Giving off the impression of some underlying conspiracy going on or maybe they're just that scared of the company that they don't want people sniffing around by association when you start asking all these questions.

Yeah the game is pretty heavy handed in general. Also makes it quite unappealing at times.

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I think I'm nearing the end of the game? I'm level 25, just finished everything on Monarch...

Killing the Iconoclast leader and then doing the negotiations was fun!

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@apsham, how much more do I have out of curiosity?

Also, I've learned that the best way to deal with enemies is my plasma LMG... just mows everything down. But it's not as satisfying as a stealthy headshot. 

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23 minutes ago, Ruki said:

I think I'm nearing the end of the game? I'm level 25, just finished everything on Monarch...

 

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@apsham, how much more do I have out of curiosity?

Also, I've learned that the best way to deal with enemies is my plasma LMG... just mows everything down. But it's not as satisfying as a stealthy headshot. 

I've just done this bit too. I'm also curious as to how much more there is.

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20 hours ago, apsham said:

 

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Yeah the game is pretty heavy handed in general. Also makes it quite unappealing at times.

 

Not a personal knock on you, just more adding to discussion - but I always found it interesting that games like the Outer Worlds that are very critical of capitalism were seen as heavy handed, but pro-gun/pro-Nationalistic sentiments are rarely seen as heavy handed. Like, no one would call Call of Duty heavy handed. 

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1 hour ago, RPS said:

Not a personal knock on you, just more adding to discussion - but I always found it interesting that games like the Outer Worlds that are very critical of capitalism were seen as heavy handed, but pro-gun/pro-Nationalistic sentiments are rarely seen as heavy handed. Like, no one would call Call of Duty heavy handed. 

I would say that COD is VERY heavy handed. Like that's one of the things that I would say most about it, especially the most recent one. It's less about the message and more about the way that it's handled ("GEEZ THESE GUYS SURE ARE BAD, HUH?") but I think a part of that in Outer World is an attempt at humor that didn't really ring with me.

@Ruki It's hard to say thinking back - you have another big portion to go and then the ending portion. I kind of sped through the next one and I don't even know what my options were there besides the thing that I did (went very, very anti-Board) and from there. There were two whole moon/planets/whatevers that I didn't even see and don't know how I would, I find that interesting.

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I think some of the places are planned for DLC. I think it was the planet/moon Tartarus mentioned it was a big ol' prison maze. That sounds perfect for DLC to me. 

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4 hours ago, Ruki said:

I think I'm nearing the end of the game? I'm level 25, just finished everything on Monarch...

 

  Reveal hidden contents

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@apsham, how much more do I have out of curiosity?

Also, I've learned that the best way to deal with enemies is my plasma LMG... just mows everything down. But it's not as satisfying as a stealthy headshot. 

I did the opposite.

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4 hours ago, Ruki said:

I think I'm nearing the end of the game? I'm level 25, just finished everything on Monarch...

 

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Killing the Iconoclast leader and then doing the negotiations was fun!

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@apsham, how much more do I have out of curiosity?

Also, I've learned that the best way to deal with enemies is my plasma LMG... just mows everything down. But it's not as satisfying as a stealthy headshot. 

You’ve still got quite a bit to go, especially if you like to do all the side quests.

I finished the game yesterday and I didn’t want it to end, such a good game! I think I’ll do a murderous playthrough next.

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There is an item dupe glitch which is OP as fuck...

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Annnnnnd done. Good game! I can't wait to see what Obsidian does next. 

Finding the logs on the Hope was really cool. I like seeing stuff like that. Reminded me of finding datapads of the scientists in Horizon Zero Dawn.

...in the credits it has the staff's D&D characters. Amazing.

And it looks like I finished everything up in 23 hours or so. I feel like that was the majority of quests. Pretty much everything I came across! I was max level shortly after starting the last level. 

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I finished it yesterday as well. I had fun with it. Maybe the game didn't do anything groundbreaking (hardy-har), but it didn't need to. Everything it did was done well.

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I finished this after 5 days, and was a little disappointed because I was expecting the next big open world RPG. But in the end, I really enjoyed it.
 

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Monarch and Terra 2  are huge and in-depth and took me ages.

But when it came to Byzantium, I basically ran through it using my charm to get past everything. Missed a side mission or two (The Model and the 'Retirement' Homes) and then got turned completely hostile on Byzantium by refusing to kill everyone in Edgewater.

Still though. Loved this game and it felt like the first game in a great game series, that they used to setup the universe and give you a good grounding on what it is/what it can be, and hopefully its sequel will be the RPG we were all expecting.

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Sequel will probably be XBox exclusive since Obsidian was purchased by Microsoft

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RE: The Hope

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I moved the Hope next to Phynius' lab. How much of the game would I have to go from here on? And by doing it I noticed the board missions have gone, which is fine, because fuck the board, but have I missed a big chunk of game?

 

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9 hours ago, Barbaro CaverLUKIEo said:

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I moved the Hope next to Phynius' lab. How much of the game would I have to go from here on? And by doing it I noticed the board missions have gone, which is fine, because fuck the board, but have I missed a big chunk of game?

 

You got one more area to go, with only one mission to do. Probably 60-90 minutes

I don't think you've missed a big chunk of the game? But I could be wrong. Who knows how far the board stuff goes. 

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On 09/11/2019 at 17:24, Barbaro CaverLUKIEo said:

RE: The Hope

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On 10/11/2019 at 02:49, Ruki said:

 

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I don't think you've missed a big chunk of the game? But I could be wrong. Who knows how far the board stuff goes. 

I went the Board route

There is only 1 mission.  IT probably varies depending on how you handled Emerald Vale plots.  I routed the power to the Botanical Lab, so for the Board mission I had to "get rid of" the people of Edgewater.  You do get the option of going to the power station and using robots to do it, then you have to kill the robots.

After that the next mission was to go to The Hope and decide if I was going to move it to where The Board wanted, or to where Dr. Wells wanted

So yea, think the only difference is 1 more mission 

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