EWR 2011 Stats Update: April ***PLEASE USE SPOILER TAGS***

[jadenjater]

http://florida.arres...minger_5389480/

Raise Lucky Cannon's age to 27.

[Guest The Phenomenal Red]

-Raise Jushin Liger's brawl to 56, technical to 85, and charisma to 57. Check Fonz Factor.

Liger is one of the greatest of all time, but I don't think he currently deserves 85 in tech. I have no problem with the other changes (Fonz Factor is a little iffy, but there are already some iffy people who have it ticked, so whatever). But an 85 in tech puts him amongst the elite; while he has been a very good technical wrestler, he's not that great presently. Maybe in his prime, but not now... I'd say an 81 now works just fine.

I know I'm probably annoying the bejesus out of you by disagreeing with something out of virtually every post, but I want to keep things balanced, and that requires multiple opinions.

I think Jushin Liger not only deserves an 85 based on his technical ability today, but just in the way he puts together a match. For lack of a better description, I associate his ability at psychology within wrestling with the technical stat, and he is still one of the best in the business at that aspect.

IMO Liger should be no higher than Johnny Saint who has 81 so maybe 78. Liger does not have as much psychology as Saint does.

raise Seth Rollins charisma to 75

whoa! what?! 75????? i disagree with this completely. his charisma is 53 now which is about where it should be. at the absolute most, maybe raise like 5 points. but 75 is way way way way too high.

if Peter Orlov's charisma is at 70 then Seth Rollins charisma should be at 75

I think Orlov(the former Alex Koslov) should be at 65 and Rollins should be at 60 tops. Neither are THAT charismatic.

Why the hell are the Uso Brothers fonz factor....

Agreed, why should they have the fonz factor, they don't look cool.

I disagree about chaning Steph... It is way too likely that she'll return to TV at some point. None of the McMahons should be removed as workers for thhat reason.

Agreed, Steph should be a worker.

about Desmond Wolfe:

The word is that former Ring of Honor champion and TNA star Desmond Wolfe (Nigel McGuinness) will be working in the TNA office soon as he won't be cleared to wrestle again.

Cody Rhodes gimmick should be Freak or Psycho

Source on Wolfe's situation please.

NOTE:

According to luchawiki El Gato (Eveready) IS Drago. Change El Gato to Drago AAA and make his overness 38, his card position midcard and his gimmick mysterious.

Remove Chicano from AAA, he has been gone for some time now.

Rename Hercules Oosenga to Ronin and add him to NOAH. Add him to AAA as an opener heel ninja.

Add El Blazer back to AAA as an lower midcard ninja, rename him Sugi San and add him to NOAH.

I am working up stats for Dark Dragon, Fenix and Taboo/Tabu.

Remove Venum Black from Muerte Roja's alter egos. Venum Black is someone else who did the Muerte Roja gimmick at one point.

Add Rey Bucanero and Perico to La Peste Negra in CMLL.

Edited April 23, 2011 by The Phenomenal Red

[fusionFX!]

I think everybody that has played football in their lifetime should have shooting ability checked. The ones that come to mind right now are Andy Leavine, Roman Leakee, and Titus O'Neil. I know i'm missing a few more, probably alot more but if I am, somebody else add them to the list.

[Bill1996]

OK... For whatever reason, posts have been deleted...

Fortunately, I had up to post #189 logged, so I think I got everything from the posts that were deleted.

-Bill

[Haydenism]

Dunno if you got it or not, but The Sheik (Joey Machete) is the new NWA World Champ.

However, NWA Hollywood said via twitter that they weren't going to have him in the promotion. So, I suppose put the NWA Heavyweight Title in whatever promotion The Sheik is in.

[Soundgarden9]

Dunno if you got it or not, but The Sheik (Joey Machete) is the new NWA World Champ.

However, NWA Hollywood said via twitter that they weren't going to have him in the promotion. So, I suppose put the NWA Heavyweight Title in whatever promotion The Sheik is in.

The Sheik is not in any promotion, so I would leave the title in NWA Hollywood and have it vacant for now.

[KrisClassic]

-Raise The Sheik's overness to 43.

-Lower Tony DeVito's overness to 40. Raise his charisma to 63. Check menacing.

-Lower HC Loc's overness to 38. Raise his speed to 35. Check High Spots and Menacing. Change his secondary finisher to Budweiser Splash (Top Rope).

-Raise Super Crazy's overness to 56.

-Raise Chavo Guerrero Sr.'s overness to 60.

-Raise Dan Severn's overness to 56.

-Lower Jack Victory's overness to 40.

-Lower Nate Hatred's overness to 45.

-Lower Nick Mitchell's overness to 38.

-Lower Andy Simmons' overness to 22.

-Lower Kid Romeo's overness to 25.

-Lower Eddie Mustang's overness to 14.

-Raise So Cal Val's overness to 54.

-Raise New Jack's charisma to 88. Lower his overness to 73.

-Raise Ron Horn's technical to 30, selling to 64, and charisma to 54.

-Raise Mason Hunter's brawl to 56.

-Raise Wade Chism's speed to 26.

Edited April 25, 2011 by KrisClassic

[Soundgarden9]

Couple notes:

-Rasche Brown is listed as 35 on OWOW and 37 on Cagematch. Maybe make him 36 for now? (Unless your source for 32 is more credible)

-Shouldn't it be R and J's Excellent Tag Team and not Eggcellent?

-Add a friendship between Ares and Steve Corino, add a loyalty between Ares and Christian Eckstein. Tick announcer for Christian Eckstein.

-Add a friendship between Raven and Perry Saturn

-Add a friendship between Shelly Martinez and Becky Bayless, Amber O'Neal, and Angel Orsini.

-Add a friendship between Brittney Savage and Pat Buck

-Add a friendship between The Sheik and Montel Vontavious Porter, Gabriel Gallo, and Junior Fatu.

-Add a friendship between Amazing Kong and Tara

-Add a friendship between Mia Yim and Shiima Xion

[Bill1996]

-Shouldn't it be R and J's Excellent Tag Team and not Eggcellent?

Nope...

-Bill

Edited April 25, 2011 by Bill1996

[KrisClassic]

-Lower Prince Iaukea's wages to 28,000. Raise his charisma to 50. Check SS Look.

-Check Trainer for Daisuke Sekimoto.

-Raise Pablo Marquez's brawl to 50, technical to 54, and selling to 73.

-Raise Chris Gray's technical to 64.

-Raise Maxx Stardom's brawl to 56, stiffness to 38, and selling to 74.

-Raise El Phantasmo's brawl to 46.

-Check SS Look for CJ O'Doyle.

-Add Craig Classic to the game:

Craig Classic

Classic

Male

May, 28 (29 next month)

Lightweight

Brawl: 73

Speed: 30

Technical: 68

Stiffness: 68

Selling: 73

Over: 30

Charisma: 67

Attitude: 94

Behavior: 94

Wages: 18,000

Speaks: Yes

American

Primary finisher: Spin-out Powerbomb (Impact)

Secondary finisher: Sliding Forearm (Ground)

Face, No Gimmick Needed.

Check SS Look.

Put Craig Classic on touring commitments with Zero-1.

Add Dragon Warrior as an alter ego for Craig Classic.

Add a loyalty between Craig Classic and Daisuke Sekimoto.

Edited April 25, 2011 by KrisClassic

[Soundgarden9]

-Add a friendship between Angela Fong and Serena Deeb, Kristin Astara.

-Add a friendship between Percy Pringle and Honkey Tonk Man.

-Make Paul Roma and Pierre Carl Ouelette non-wrestlers.

-Remove ODB from TNA.

[Guest The Phenomenal Red]

CMLL have introduced their heir apparent to Mistico in the form of his cousin, Magnus.

Name: Magnus CMLL

Short Name: Magnus

Birth Month: Unknown

Age: 16

Weight: Lightweight

Company #1: CMLL

Disposition: Face

Position: Opener

Gimmick: Family Guy (related to a star of the 70's/80's)

Stats:

Brawling: 33

Speed: 78

Technical: 45

Stiffness: 35

Selling: 70

Over: 32

Charisma: 35

Attitude: 80

Behavior: 80

Relationships:

Blood Relationships: Argenis, Astro Boy, Dr. Karonte Jr. & Mistico(Sin Cara) (he is their cousin)

Loyalty: Arkangel (de la Muerte)

[Guest rasko]

RAW Draft spoilers

Move Rey Mysterio, Big Show and Alberto Del Rio to RAW

Move Randy Orton, Mark Henry and Sin Cara to SmackDown

Turn Mark Henry heel, change his gimmick to Monster

[fusionFX!]

Eric Watts(From Tough Enough)

Watts

Heavyweight

25 years old

Brawl: 55

Speed: 7

Technical: 10

Stiffness: 65

Selling: 52

Over: 13

Charisma: 55

Attitude: 67

Behavior: 85

Wages: Normal WWE Development pay

Speaks: Yes

American

Primary Finisher: Crucifix Powerbomb(Impact)

Secondary Finisher: Chokeslam(Impact)

Heel, None

Check SS Look(?) and Menacing

Add him to WWE, developmental deal.

http://www.buzzfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Eric-Watts.jpg

- Add Big Nasty and Jason Watts as alter egos.

Jeremiah Riggs(From Tough Enough)

Riggs

Heavyweight

28 years old

Brawl: 66

Speed: 33

Technical: 53

Stiffness: 62

Selling: 67

Over: 22

Charisma: 63

Attitude: 78

Behavior: 90

Wages: Normal WWE Development pay

Speaks: Yes

American

Both Finishers: Ankle Lock for now I guess?(Submission)

Face, Legitimate Athlete

Check SS Look and Shooting Ability

Add him to WWE, developmental deal.

http://www.buzzfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Jeremiah-Riggs.jpg

Luke Robinson(From Tough Enough)

Robinson

Heavyweight

26 years old

Brawl: 62

Speed: 27

Technical: 40

Stiffness: 42

Selling: 63

Over: 26

Charisma: 72

Attitude: 90

Behavior: 90

Wages: Normal WWE Development pay

Speaks: Yes

American

Primary Finisher: Superkick

Secondary Finisher: Superkick

Heel, Cocky

Check SS Look, Shooting Ability(?), and Fonz Factor(?)

Add him to WWE, developmental deal.

http://www.sunjournal.com/files/imagecache/story_large/2011/04/04/NUP_143128_0063.jpg

- Add a friendship between Luke Robinson and Jeremiah Riggs.

Ryan Howe(From Tough Enough)

Ryan Howe

Lightweight

23 years old

Brawl: 35

Speed: 63

Technical: 33

Stiffness: 36

Selling: 63

Over: 16

Charisma: 60

Attitude: 90

Behavior: 90

Wages: Normal WWE Development pay

Speaks: Yes

American

Primary Finisher: Double Jump Moonsault(Like Christopher Daniels' BME)(Top Rope)

Secondary Finisher: Springboard Legdrop(Impact or Top Rope?)

Face, Old School Face

Check SS Look, and high spots(?)

Add him to WWE, developmental deal.

http://cdn.sescoops.com/wp-content/uploads/RyanHowe.jpg

- Add Diamond Steel as an alter ego.

Martin Casaus(From Tough Enough)

Casaus

Heavyweight

26 years old

Brawl: 60

Speed: 45

Technical: 50

Stiffness: 36

Selling: 63

Over: 16

Charisma: 60

Attitude: 90

Behavior: 90

Wages: Normal WWE Development pay

Speaks: Yes

American

Primary Finisher: Spinning TKO(Impact) -He called it the Perfector in the indy scene.

Secondary Finisher: Diving Fist Drop(Top Rope)

Heel, Cocky

Check SS Look

Add him to WWE, developmental deal.

http://cdn.sescoops.com/wp-content/uploads/MartinCasaus.jpg

- Add Tristan Gallo as an alter ego.

Edited April 26, 2011 by fusionFX!

[Guest rasko]

up the Miz's overness to 94-95. he is more over than CM Punk

[Guest rasko]

Supplemental Draft

Daniel Bryan to SmackDown

Jack Swagger to RAW

The Great Khali & Ranjin Singh to SmackDown

Jimmy Uso to SmackDown

Kelly Kelly to RAW

JTG to RAW

Alicia Fox to SmackDown

William Regal to SmackDown

Yoshi Tatsu to SmackDown

Drew McIntyre to RAW

Natalya to SmackDown

Curt Hawkins to RAW

Chris Masters to RAW

Jey Uso to SmackDown

Kofi Kingston to RAW

Ted DiBiase to SmackDown

Tyson Kidd to SmackDown

Tamina to SmackDown

Tyler Reks to RAW

Alex Riley to SmackDown

Beth Phoenix to RAW

Sheamus to SmackDown

Edited April 26, 2011 by rasko

[Guest The Phenomenal Red]

Add dislike between Alberto Del Rio (Dos Caras Jr.) and Sin Cara (Mistico.) As heard on PWInsider.com in an Elite audio, Del Rio has put the mouth on Cara based on past heat in CMLL and for carrying himself too high based on his position in Mexico.

Charly Manson/Malice's behavior should be dropped to 74, he beat up a police officer.

Delta's primary finisher should be Moonsault (top rope) and his secondary finish should be Ringpost Moonsault (top rope standing.) Also raise Delta's speed to 78 and overness to 34.

Add Ayumi Kurihara to CMLL as a lower midcard foreign star face.

Add Chucky II, Cuije II, Dark Dragon, Fenix, Guerrero Maya Jr., Hombre Bala Jr., Monsther II, Mortiz, Taboo & Vanquero to the game.

Name: Chucky II

Short Name: Chucky

Birth Month: December

Age: 25

Weight: Lightweight

Nationality: Mexican

Company #1: None

Disposition: Heel

Position: Manager

Gimmick: Sidekick

Stats:

Brawling: 33

Speed: 58

Technical: 25

Stiffness: 20

Selling: 60

Over: 12

Charisma: 35

Attitude: 80

Behavior: 80

Relationships:

Friendship: Monsther & Monsther II

Name: Cuije II

Short Name: Cuije

Birth Month: March

Age: 39

Weight: Lightweight

Nationality: Mexican

Company #1: AAA

Disposition: Face

Position: Manager

Gimmick: Sidekick

Stats:

Brawling: 15

Speed: 50

Technical: 22

Stiffness: 15

Selling: 60

Over: 22

Charisma: 35

Attitude: 80

Behavior: 80

Relationships:

Loyalty: El Alebrije

Name: Dark Dragon

Short Name: Dragon

Birth Month: February

Age: 26

Weight: Lightweight

Nationality: Mexican

Company #1: AAA

Disposition: Heel

Position: Opener

Gimmick: Ninja

Stats:

Brawling: 23

Speed: 68

Technical: 35

Stiffness: 40

Selling: 60

Over: 18

Charisma: 35

Attitude: 80

Behavior: 80

Alter Egos: Zairus

Relationships:

Loyalty: Gran Apache

Name: Fenix

Short Name: Fenix

Birth Month: December

Age: 20

Weight: Lightweight

Nationality: Mexican

Company #1: AAA

Disposition: Face

Position: Opener

Gimmick: Luchadore

Stats:

Brawling: 23

Speed: 72

Technical: 32

Stiffness: 40

Selling: 70

Over: 19

Charisma: 35

Attitude: 80

Behavior: 80

Alter Egos: Mascara Oriental

Relationships:

Loyalty: Gran Apache, Jorge Rivera

Name: Guerrero Maya Jr.

Short Name: Maya Jr.

Birth Month: August

Age: 26

Weight: Lightweight

Nationality: Mexican

Company #1: CMLL

Disposition: Face

Position: Opener

Gimmick: Family Guy

Stats:

Brawling: 33

Speed: 72

Technical: 68

Stiffness: 40

Selling: 70

Over: 28

Charisma: 35

Attitude: 80

Behavior: 80

Alter Egos: Samba, Multifacetico

Relationships:

Blood Relation: Black Terry

Loyalty: El Dandy, Satanico

Name: Hombre Bala Jr.

Short Name: Bala Jr.

Birth Month: August

Age: 19

Weight: Lightweight

Nationality: Mexican

Company #1: CMLL

Disposition: Face

Position: Opener

Gimmick: Family Guy

Stats:

Brawling: 23

Speed: 68

Technical: 62

Stiffness: 20

Selling: 65

Over: 22

Charisma: 35

Attitude: 80

Behavior: 80

Relationships:

Blood Relations: India Sioux, Monsther, Monsther II, Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan Jr., Rey Bucanero

Loyalty: Arkangel (de la Murete), Shocker

Name: Monsther II

Short Name: Monsther

Birth Month: Unknown

Age: 18

Weight: Lightweight

Nationality: Mexican

Company #1: None

Disposition: Heel

Position: Opener

Gimmick: Monster

Stats:

Brawling: 51

Speed: 33

Technical: 25

Stiffness: 38

Selling: 60

Over: 18

Charisma: 35

Attitude: 80

Behavior: 80

Relationships:

Blood Relations: India Sioux, Hombre Bala Jr., Monsther, Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan Jr., Rey Bucanero

Friendship: Chucky II

Name: Mortiz

Short Name: Mortiz

Birth Month: July

Age: 23

Weight: Lightweight

Nationality: Mexican

Primary Finisher: RigaMortiz (Impact)

Company #1: CMLL

Disposition: Heel

Position: Opener

Gimmick: Luchadore

Stats:

Brawling: 33

Speed: 75

Technical: 52

Stiffness: 20

Selling: 65

Over: 22

Charisma: 35

Attitude: 80

Behavior: 80

Relationships:

Loyalty: Arkangel (de la Muerte), Rey Misterio Sr.

Name: Rush

Short Name: Rush

Birth Month: September

Age: 22

Weight: Lightweight

Nationality: Mexican

Primary Finisher: El Amarre (Submission)

Secondary: Back Suplex (Impact)

Company #1: CMLL

Disposition: Face

Position: Midcard

Gimmick: Luchadore

Stats:

Brawling: 53

Speed: 65

Technical: 62

Stiffness: 20

Selling: 65

Over: 32

Charisma: 65

Attitude: 80

Behavior: 80

Alter Ego: Latino, Rouge

Name: Taboo

Short Name: Taboo

Birth Month: August

Age: 30

Weight: Lightweight

Nationality: Unknown

Company #1: AAA

Disposition: Tweener

Position: Opener

Gimmick: Mysterious

Stats:

Brawling: 43

Speed: 68

Technical: 38

Stiffness: 20

Selling: 65

Over: 30

Charisma: 35

Attitude: 80

Behavior: 80

Stable: Los Bizzaros

Alter Ego: Tabu

Name: Vaquero

Short Name: Vaquero

Birth Month: August

Age: 33

Weight: Lightweight

Nationality: Mexican

Primary Finisher: La Vaquera (Impact)

Company #1: None

Disposition: Heel

Position: Opener

Gimmick: Cowboy

Stats:

Brawling: 23

Speed: 68

Technical: 52

Stiffness: 20

Selling: 65

Over: 20

Charisma: 35

Attitude: 80

Behavior: 80

Alter Ego, Vaquerito

Relationships:

Blood Relation: Mictlan, Polvora, Super Nova, Texano Jr.

SPOILER NOTE on IDENTITIES

There are three identities in AAA and CMLL that are inconclusive but might be existing wrestlers in the game:

Bengala maybe Sombra de Plata (Bengala debuted when Sombra de Plata disappeared from CMLL)

Inquisidor maybe Vaquero (Inquisidor debuted when Vaquero disappeared from CMLL)

Mantra maybe Black Abyss

NOTE: NONE ARE CONFIRMED IDENTITIES

Edited April 26, 2011 by The Phenomenal Red

[KrisClassic]

-Lower Deranged IWA-MS's brawl to 79. Raise his speed to 20, technical to 10, and overness to 30. Check Menacing. Is there any alternative name we can call him, considering IWA-MS is no more?

-Raise John Cena's brawl to 79, selling to 83, and overness to 98. Lower his stiffness to 50.

-Raise Necro Butcher's overness to 64.

-Raise Toby Klein's selling to 81 and overness to 30. Lower his brawl to 82.

Earlier, it was discussed that Undertaker's stats should be lowered. I disagree. He still has it in the ring.

[Guest The Phenomenal Red]

-Lower Deranged IWA-MS's brawl to 79. Raise his speed to 20, technical to 10, and overness to 30. Check Menacing. Is there any alternative name we can call him, considering IWA-MS is no more?

-Raise John Cena's brawl to 79, selling to 83, and overness to 98. Lower his stiffness to 50.

-Raise Necro Butcher's overness to 64.

-Raise Toby Klein's selling to 81 and overness to 30. Lower his brawl to 82.

Earlier, it was discussed that Undertaker's stats should be lowered. I disagree. He still has it in the ring.

Cena having the same brawl as Tommy Dreamer, no way Jose. I'd keep Cena where he is now.

[Guest mr. potato head]

I'd suggest 92 as a more appropriate level for The Miz's overness.