2011 NFL Season

[TCO]

Yeah, that makes him look like way less of a douche, great point.

It shows he had a valid point in wanting Eli out of San Diego because he's had success in New York since while Rivers is still ringless in San Diego. Thus making slightly less douchey.

[Damian WayLNKe]

I don't want Peyton Manning going near a team that can actually win games without him.

[Maxx]

Yeah, that makes him look like way less of a douche, great point.

It shows he had a valid point in wanting Eli out of San Diego because he's had success in New York since while Rivers is still ringless in San Diego. Thus making slightly less douchey.

They were both completely different teams when the draft occurred. Let's not forget, New York was bad enough that year to be picking fourth. He wanted him to go to New York because it's the biggest media market in the country, no other reason. He was a douche then, he's a douche now. Giants had incredible luck winning that Super Bowl, let's not make it out like they were some incredible juggernaught while San Diego struggled to win 2 games a season.

[Trench]

Yeah, that makes him look like way less of a douche, great point.

It shows he had a valid point in wanting Eli out of San Diego because he's had success in New York since while Rivers is still ringless in San Diego. Thus making slightly less douchey.

They were both completely different teams when the draft occurred. Let's not forget, New York was bad enough that year to be picking fourth. He wanted him to go to New York because it's the biggest media market in the country, no other reason. He was a douche then, he's a douche now. Giants had incredible luck winning that Super Bowl, let's not make it out like they were some incredible juggernaught while San Diego struggled to win 2 games a season.

Was it also luck getting there?

[gunnar hendershow]

The draft occurred just before we migrated to this board, but if I recall a lot of us thought the Chargers had more upside and the Giants were a team with an aging core.

[naiwf]

They were both completely different teams when the draft occurred. Let's not forget, New York was bad enough that year to be picking fourth. He wanted him to go to New York because it's the biggest media market in the country, no other reason. He was a douche then, he's a douche now. Giants had incredible luck winning that Super Bowl, let's not make it out like they were some incredible juggernaught while San Diego struggled to win 2 games a season.

How were they lucky to win the SB? Eli outplayed Garcia, Romo, Favre and Brady all away from home that year. It's not like he Flacco'd or Sanchize'd his way to the trophy.

On topic though, you can't blame Archie for stating the obvious. Peyton and Luck on the same team is a bad idea since one of them would have to sit, and Peyton is due big money starting next year. If they go with the mentor route, then they'd be paying a # 1 overall pick to ride the bench until Peyton retired. If they kept Peyton and started Luck, then you have history's most expensive backup QB. Trade Peyton to a team like Miami or let him walk and use the money to stock up on a lot of missing pieces.

[Lint]

They were both completely different teams when the draft occurred. Let's not forget, New York was bad enough that year to be picking fourth. He wanted him to go to New York because it's the biggest media market in the country, no other reason. He was a douche then, he's a douche now. Giants had incredible luck winning that Super Bowl, let's not make it out like they were some incredible juggernaught while San Diego struggled to win 2 games a season.

How were they lucky to win the SB? Eli outplayed Garcia, Romo, Favre and Brady all away from home that year. It's not like he Flacco'd or Sanchize'd his way to the trophy.

Asante dropped a pick he makes 99 times out of 100. and Tyree caught a pass that would've been incomplete 999,999,999 out of a million

[Meacon Keaton]

999,999,999 out of a million

[Lint]

alright fine...8 times out of 10. "Impossible" catches have been sen enough times this season. But the point still stands. Tyree caught a pass that, most times, would've been incomplete. He got lucky as hell on that pass

[naiwf]

alright fine...8 times out of 10. "Impossible" catches have been sen enough times this season. But the point still stands. Tyree caught a pass that, most times, would've been incomplete. He got lucky as hell on that pass

They still would have had time to win the game even without the catch. It's not like they had the refs giving them touchdowns that weren't or calling bogus penalties.

[Pizza]

[Meacon Keaton]

That was really gross looking.

[Evil Chase K]

Of all the games to have to miss due to health reasons.

I'd love to be in that locker room after the game.

Ben walking is a great sign. I'm gonna predict a sprained ankle, he'll miss the rest of this game and play against San Francisco on Monday Night.

[Meacon Keaton]

Or not.

[Mofoticon]

Colt McCoy is just awful

Matt Barkley or Robert Griffin please

[Meacon Keaton]

It's a shame a guy like Joe Thomas is stuck in Cleveland. I know he's making mad bank, but he could make big bucks and actually play for a winning franchise.

[Evil Chase K]

If he wants to stay in Pittsburgh and change his name to Chris Kemoeatu I'm sure the Steelers could find a place for him.

[mystikz]

was reading about how McCoy could be a lot better if they actually had decent receivers.... which they don't. I think the only receiving corps worse than Cleveland is Jacksonville. The Jags have nobody really at all. kinda feel bad for someone like Blaine Gabbert being tossed out there right away with such an awful group of receivers. I don't think any of the Jags WR's would be a #3 on another team.

[Maxx]

Mike Thomas would definitely be at least a 3 on other teams.

[gunnar hendershow]

Mike Thomas is better than anybody Cleveland has by a country mile.